How would a Ron Paul Administration help Stem Cell Research Progress?

[extrmmxer]

Would a Ron Paul Admin. hurt or help the progress in stem cell research? If it helps than how?

 

[raheelp]

You would not see federally funded stem cell research.

So in that sense hurt.

I believe the states would be able to decide the morality of it and thus help in a way...

 

[ASayre]

(clearing)

 

[GravitysRainbow]

I would hope that Paul wouldn't give money to any organization that murders embryos, even if that money isn't used for that purpose.

With luck, that might lead to most major research universities losing federal funding. It would be really good if we stopped giving financial aid to people attending those institutions as well. That would provide a real hit to the Evolutionary Abortiocaust machine and its choke hold on our nation.

Then more young people would attend places like Bob Jones and Oral Roberts.

 

[EvilNight]

Ron would help by getting out of its way. He wouldn't be giving federal funds for it, because he wouldn't be giving federal funds to a hell of a lot of the things we do now. He wouldn't oppose it, he wouldn't aid it. He's neutral.

He also wouldn't oppose CA for example starting their own state program, which is the kind of thing the Fed does oppose now.

 

[GravitysRainbow]

Ron would help by getting out of its way. He wouldn't be giving federal funds for it, because he wouldn't be giving federal funds to a hell of a lot of the things we do now. He wouldn't oppose it, he wouldn't aid it. He's neutral.

He also wouldn't oppose CA for example starting their own state program, which is the kind of thing the Fed does oppose now.

I doubt that. He heroically stepped in to stop states from allowing late term abortions to occur. I would hope that he would have the same compassion for embryos.

 

[RonRules]

He would not restrict it. So it would help.

 

[Mason]

I doubt that. He heroically stepped in to stop states from allowing late term abortions to occur. I would hope that he would have the same compassion for embryos.

They can pull what they need from umbilical (sp?) cords after the birth for stem cell research.

 

[cjhowe]

They can pull what they need from umbilical (sp?) cords after the birth for stem cell research.

I'm so glad the the most brilliant minds in biological research spend their free time on RPF.

 

[han_solo]

Why doest he federal government need to be involved? There are already millions being done today with stem cells?

 

[ErikBlack]

I doubt that. He heroically stepped in to stop states from allowing late term abortions to occur. I would hope that he would have the same compassion for embryos.

I must admit, every time I stare into the eyes of an embryo I can't help but feel the deepest sense of compassion and connection between two similar beings. But alas, I am hungry in the morning, so my new embryo buddy goes into the pan with the cheese and ham and becomes an omelet! Compassion for embryos. LOL! That's a good one. What's next? Are there any other simple organisms with the potential for life that we should start feeling compassion for? How about sperm? Maybe I should start saving up all my little guys instead of letting them dry on my girlfriend's chest.

 

[GravitysRainbow]

I must admit, every time I stare into the eyes of an embryo I can't help but feel the deepest sense of compassion and connection between two similar beings. But alas, I am hungry in the morning, so my new embryo buddy goes into the pan with the cheese and ham and becomes an omelet! Compassion for embryos. LOL! That's a good one. What's next? Are there any other simple organisms with the potential for life that we should start feeling compassion for? How about sperm? Maybe I should start saving up all my little guys instead of letting them dry on my girlfriend's chest.

What are you, some kind of papist? Go worship the pope or something.

 

[fmontez]

It doesn’t' really matter anymore... they can now synthesize fetus stem cells, made a big splash in all the media a couple week ago...

 

[GravitysRainbow]

Yeah, but who's doing the synthesis? The same clowns who were butchering embryos and inventing global warming? The same ones who dreamed up HAARP or the superconducting supercollidor? Not buying it.

 

[sratiug]

It doesn’t' really matter anymore... they can now synthesize fetus stem cells, made a big splash in all the media a couple week ago...

They demonstrated a "new" (expensive and dangerous?) way to do it using viruses. The body does it every time a broken bone heals. Bone marrow cells de-differentiate into embryonic cells. Read "The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life" by Robert Becker and Gary Selden published in the eighties which demonstrates that that process is regulated by nerve currents and can be duplicated with artificial electrical stimulation. The embryonic stem cell debate is much ado about NOTHING.

This book also details how government control of research funds destroys vital scientific research. The proof of the author's statements is that 20 years later we are still debating stem cell research and ridiculous and dangerous ways to "synthesize" stem cells when an elementary student can de-differentiate his own body cells to embryonic state with a small battery and a couple of electrodes after reading this book.

 

[Truth Warrior]

And this is an issue for the federal government to be involved in, why?

 

[Fox McCloud]

contrary to what you guys say, Ron personally voted not to allowing stem cell research.

he voted "no" on Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, which has nothing to do with federal funding or the likes.

there's an interview where he's said that he personally doesn't like embryonic stem-cell research, but is fine with other types of stem cell research.

edit: he'd probably end up hindering embryonic stem-cell research, but other types would progress just fine.

 

[dreicher]

contrary to what you guys say, Ron personally voted not to allowing stem cell research.

he voted "no" on Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, which has nothing to do with federal funding or the likes.

there's an interview where he's said that he personally doesn't like embryonic stem-cell research, but is fine with other types of stem cell research.

edit: he'd probably end up hindering embryonic stem-cell research, but other types would progress just fine.

Really, from the floor while debating the bill...

Mr. Speaker, the issue of government funding of embryonic stem cell research is one of the most divisive issues facing the country. While I sympathize with those who see embryonic stem cell research as providing a path to a cure for the dreadful diseases that have stricken so many Americans, I strongly object to forcing those Americans who believe embryonic stem cell research is immoral to subsidize such research with their tax dollars.

The main question that should concern Congress today is does the United States Government have the constitutional authority to fund any form of stem cell research. The clear answer to that question is no. A proper constitutional position would reject federal funding for stem cell research, while allowing the individual states and private citizens to decide whether to permit, ban, or fund this research. Therefore, I will vote against H.R. 810.

Unfortunately, many opponents of embryonic stem cell research are disregarding the Constitution by supporting H.R. 2520, an "acceptable" alternative that funds umbilical-cord stem cell research. While this approach is much less objectionable than funding embryonic stem cell research, it is still unconstitutional. Therefore, I must also oppose H.R. 2520.

Federal funding of medical research guarantees the politicization of decisions about what types of research for what diseases will be funded. Thus, scarce resources will be allocated according to who has the most effective lobby rather than allocated on the basis of need or even likely success. Federal funding will also cause researchers to neglect potential treatments and cures that do not qualify for federal funds. Ironically, an example of this process may be found in H.R. 2520; some research indicates that adult stem cells may be as useful or more useful to medical science than either embryonic or umbilical cord stem cells. In fact, the supporters of embryonic stem cell research may have a point when they question the effectiveness of umbilical cord

Mr. Speaker, there is no question that H.R. 810 violates basic constitutional principles by forcing taxpayers to subsidize embryonic stem cell research. However, H.R. 2520 also exceeds Congress's constitutional authority and may even retard effective adult stem cell research. Therefore, I urge my colleagues to vote against both H.R. 810 and H.R. 2520.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/rec...002Fmcrmx002Fmh20050524-34.xmlElementm77m0m0m

 

[RonPaulCatholic]

Hey, here's a papist with an answer.

RP has publicly (thinking back to a New Hampshire interview) stated that he does not seek to restrict 'stem cell research'. He is not in favor of the kind known as 'embryonic stem cell research', because it puts the government in the role of actually funding the creation and destruction of human life. However, in the case of 'tubal' pregnancies, where an abortion is required to save the life of the mother (the child cannot be saved), he is open to allowing the fetus to be used for research. I would imagine this would only be with the consent of the family.

 

[Dustancostine]

I would hope that Paul wouldn't give money to any organization that murders embryos

I would hope that Ron Paul wouldn't give money to ANY ORGANIZATIONS whatsoever.