How we can get million to revolution march ?

[bendru]

Not to be negative, but, as long as the March is promoted as a Ron Paul and Republican thing, the March numbers will not rise as high as they could.

I think this is correct. Unfortunately, many people think of Ron Paul as the weird guy and it can be difficult to really convince them otherwise. However, nearly everyone I talk to has strong feelings about at least one of the issues that he has brought forth. Many are frustrated with the value of the dollar going down (even if they don't understand it as the product of the Fed and a careless legislature.) Others are tired of hearing reports of military personnel not getting adequate equipment, etc. (even if they don't realize that it's because we have spread ourselves quite thin across the world.) Still others are tired of having to take their shoes off in the airport to prove that they are not a terrorist (even if they don't recognize the evils of things like Real ID, or the Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007.)

My point here is that if we try to rally people around Ron Paul we will not be as successful as if we rally them around his (and our) ideals. People realistically recognize that Paul has a snowball's chance of winning the nomination and the subsequent election. As such they are not going to be excited to jump onto, what they may see as, a sinking ship.

Ultimately I have been presenting the Revolution March as a way for people to express their dissatisfaction with the status quo and the blatant abuse of our Constitution. This is a message that is attractive to nearly everyone I encounter.

On a related note I have also been questioning those around me about their familiarity with the Constitution of the United States. Many people readily admit that they have never read it (maybe in high school) and are mostly unfamiliar with its contents. Additionally, people that I have spoken to have the idea that it's difficult-to-understand legalese. In addition to promoting the March I have been encouraging people to take an hour, or so, and read through the United States Constitution as well as the Amendments. I think that this is a key part of our movement. People need to understand the foundation before they can fully appreciate how far we've strayed.

To support this effort I recently ordered 100 copies of the 'pocket-sized' Constitution from http://www.nccs.net [absolutely no affiliation] for $30 shipped and will be handing these out to people that I engage with in discussion.

"The more homogenous our citizens can be made in these particulars the greater will be our prospect of permanent union; and a primary object of such a national institution should be the education of our youth in the science of government. In a republic what species of knowledge can be equally important and what duty more pressing on its legislature than to patronize a plan for communicating it to those who are to be the future guardians of the liberties of the country?" - George Washington in his Eighth Annual Address December 7th 1796

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

I think this is correct. Unfortunately, many people think of Ron Paul as the weird guy and it can be difficult to really convince them otherwise. However, nearly everyone I talk to has strong feelings about at least one of the issues that he has brought forth. Many are frustrated with the value of the dollar going down (even if they don't understand it as the product of the Fed and a careless legislature.) Others are tired of hearing reports of military personnel not getting adequate equipment, etc. (even if they don't realize that it's because we have spread ourselves quite thin across the world.) Still others are tired of having to take their shoes off in the airport to prove that they are not a terrorist (even if they don't recognize the evils of things like Real ID, or the Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007.)

My point here is that if we try to rally people around Ron Paul we will not be as successful as if we rally them around his (and our) ideals. People realistically recognize that Paul has a snowball's chance of winning the nomination and the subsequent election. As such they are not going to be excited to jump onto, what they may see as, a sinking ship.

Ultimately I have been presenting the Revolution March as a way for people to express their dissatisfaction with the status quo and the blatant abuse of our Constitution. This is a message that is attractive to nearly everyone I encounter.

On a related note I have also been questioning those around me about their familiarity with the Constitution of the United States. Many people readily admit that they have never read it (maybe in high school) and are mostly unfamiliar with its contents. Additionally, people that I have spoken to have the idea that it's difficult-to-understand legalese. In addition to promoting the March I have been encouraging people to take an hour, or so, and read through the United States Constitution as well as the Amendments. I think that this is a key part of our movement. People need to understand the foundation before they can fully appreciate how far we've strayed.

To support this effort I recently ordered 100 copies of the 'pocket-sized' Constitution from http://www.nccs.net [absolutely no affiliation] for $30 shipped and will be handing these out to people that I engage with in discussion.

"The more homogenous our citizens can be made in these particulars the greater will be our prospect of permanent union; and a primary object of such a national institution should be the education of our youth in the science of government. In a republic what species of knowledge can be equally important and what duty more pressing on its legislature than to patronize a plan for communicating it to those who are to be the future guardians of the liberties of the country?" - George Washington in his Eighth Annual Address December 7th 1796

Great initiative E Komo Mai (welcome)

 

[FreedomRings]

As far as I can tell, the are only four ways to get a million people:

1) Massive promotion and incentives (free food, beer, music, celebrities, cash prizes, etc.)

2) Ron Paul announces his independent candidacy.

3) US/Israel attacks Iran and the march is rebranded as a peace rally.

4) Ron Paul changes his position on amnesty; that way we can attract a million illegal immigrants to march with us.

None of those is likely to happen but we should do our best anyway and be prepared to act in case anything happens that allows us to broaden our appeal to the masses.

 

[qwerty]

If just all the wannabees would do this and all this negativity would turn into positivity, we would have HUGE amount marchers.

But just guess that it´s too hard for most of you to spend 10 minutes of your life helping this cause!

It seems to be much more fun to talk bullshit and be negative towards anything than others do.

Omg, i hate some people in this movement!

 

[qwerty]

I will be now clear with you !

Stop talking BS and stop crying and start spreading a word about the march!

We can get million people there cause FREEDOM IS POPULAR!

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The problems remains, REALISTICALLY expecting 500k to a million or more to attend without a high-power marketing machine to promote and organize it, is like demanding to travel from the east to the west coast in a few hours, without using a plane. Spreading the word or other 'dixie-cups connected by a string' level methods won't do when you need a real communications network.

As I wrote a few months ago when the Paul campaign announced they wouldn't be organizing the march: "The truth is, the HQ that is sitting on $6 million dollars of monies raised for a presidential campaign has backed away from spending any of it on this event. The grassroots might be able to pull off a modestly okay turnout, but most REALISTIC chances of producing the 500,000+ mass numbers just went away when the best funded entity declined to organize it."

Yes, let's spread word of mouth and get as many out as we can, but let's not kid ourselves that it will likely get us the numbers we want, or that admitting so amounts to 'negativity.' It's always positive to tell the truth.

 

[Oyate]

How about we each carry 50,000 ants in our pockets? That will pump the numbers up.

 

[Oyate]

Ah, sorry about that last post, I'm just joking around. I think it's healthy to have a sense of humor sometimes.

Anyways, I'm glad people care and want this to be a really big event but the numbers aren't important to me. To me, every thing like this is a training excersize. It builds confidence and capability in the movement each time we do something like this. It creates tons of volunteer opportunities. Not only do we learn from our jobs but we learn from other people as they do their jobs. We become better, more efficient and more effective activists.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

everyone bring a few blowup dolls and toss some ron paul gear on them. We can double or triple our numbers in a moments notice if needed lol.

 

[bendru]

I will be now clear with you !

I suppose I may be dense but I didn't find this clear at all and can't figure out how the following relates to what I wrote.

Stop talking BS and stop crying and start spreading a word about the march!

Did you read my post? Which part do you consider BS/crying? As an aside, how do you think saying things like this and "OMG, I hate some people in this movement!" is going to draw people in? Infighting is never attractive and in general negativity is only attractive to a limited number. In order to appeal to the masses we should present a positive message, i.e. "Fiscal responsibility will lead to increased economic stability" vs. "The Fed sucks and hates babies!" It's easy to get people excited for the short-term against injustice. But ultimately I believe that if people don't fully understand the issues then they will just as quickly return from whence they came.

We can get million people there

While it would be great I think that this is unlikely.

cause FREEDOM IS POPULAR!

This I agree with whole-heartedly.

 

[scotto2008]

Two words - free beer.

Free beer -- $25 admission to the Porta-potties. We'll make a fortune.

 

[SamuraisWisdom]

I think the key to this whole thing is organization and realizing what might keep people from coming and trying to fix those issues.

I believe that the number 1 issue for anyone who's already thinking of coming (ie not definitely coming but is a 'maybe') would be gas/travel expenses. The economy is tight and gas is through the roof with no immediate end in sight. We need to band together and have an organized system of public transportation to get people to DC, and maybe even help people with overnight stays if they need it.

#2. GET THE WORD OUT. I don't hear anybody outside of this forum talking about July 12th. If this movement / Ron Paul's candidacy ever had a problem it was lack of knowledge by the general public. I'll be making posters (with a modest message, nothing too flashy) and posting them around my town and some larger cities in the area. If people can collectively afford TV / newspaper advertising, it can't hurt Just remember to keep it civil.

#3. Give people an incentive to go. Lots of people here have mentioned food and entertainment as a possibility and those are both good ideas. Making sure people know a list of speakers will also be helpful.

#4. This is more difficult, but I think we all need to find more sources of revenue for this thing. It won't be cheap and it won't be easy. We should probably pester the Paul campaign to help out seeing as how they were the ones that wanted this to happen in the first place. Maybe start a temporary charity group that sends part of the proceeds to the march and the other to a voted-on charity? Just a thought.

 

[qwerty]

Bump!

 

[christagious]

I agree with the person who said the more money spent and more entertainment, the more people will show up. It could be the first annual Freedomstock.
we can get performers who are freedom-minded:
in particular those who we know support Ron Paul such as Aimee Allen and Pokerface. not sure who else though.

 

[SnappleLlama]

I just can't believe that as of right now, only 207 people have donated to the cause. Come on, people! Even five bucks can make a difference!

 

[cepivon]

YOU need to SCRATCH this & GO TO ST. PAUL in the FALL

This is futile. Why go on a march, when the Media WON'T BE THERE!!
The Media will be in St. Paul for the convention, and THAT's where we need to focus our people.

I don't know how to do this, but I'd hate to see hundreds of people spend money flying to D.C. when they could fly to St. Paul.

Ron Paul's son announced recently that he & his dad were going to St. Paul, whether or not he is invited!

We need to be THERE, not in D.C.

 

[GigiBowman]

What pisses me off is that people wiil sit and bitch about the government all the time. But when there is a way to show the government how they feel they can't take ONE day to show them we are not happy with what's going on . But they will be the first ones to question "what happened?" when the government comes knocking to give them their RFID chip !!!!!!!!!

You said it silvermarks. And most of those people are on the Worldwide Ron Paul message board....ugh

 

[anonymous6728]

How to get a million in D.C.

We need to reach out to the grass roots that RP pulled out make himself look 'electable' in the primaries (that worked well) and tell them WHY we're marching.

- tell people we will be protesting the 9/11 cover up and are demanding a new investigation
- tell people we are protesting the NeoCon's police state, the Patriot Act, & Guantanamo Bay
- tell people we will be demanding that GWB and his band of psychos be arrested or impeached
- tell people we are there to protest the SPP, NAFTA, & the NAU, and jobs shipped out to China w/o penalty
- tell people we are there to demand the troops be brought back immediately from Iraq & Afghanistan
- tell people we don't want GWB to start WWIII by bombing Iran
- tell people that we are there to protest the price gouging by Big Oil

I don't know if it will be a million, but if people know what we stand for (or against), they are more likely to join the revolution.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about RP's Austrian economics or his thoughts on the Federal Reserve--they need tangible items they can easily grasp, not abstract concepts.

Tell Ron to unclinch his fist long enough to spend some of that $4M on Nation-wide promotion. This is his last chance to put forth the issues that really matter to Americans; the ones other politicians won't talk about. What's Ron got to lose?

If we don't aggressively promote the issues that I mentioned, I can make a pretty good guess how many people will be in D.C. on July 12.

- take the number of people in this forum and divide by 10.
- add the politicians drinking Ron's Kool-Aid
- add a few tourists and street people
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-multiply this amount by four to account for family members and volunteers

WE'LL BE LUCKY IF 1000 PEOPLE SHOW UP.

 

[GigiBowman]

If just all the wannabees would do this and all this negativity would turn into positivity, we would have HUGE amount marchers.

But just guess that it´s too hard for most of you to spend 10 minutes of your life helping this cause!

It seems to be much more fun to talk bullshit and be negative towards anything than others do.

Omg, i hate some people in this movement!

What pisses me off is that I went ahead and looked at a lot of the Ron Paul meet-ups and half of them didn't even have the March listed as a meet-up on July 12th!
How could they not even list it?

 

[qwerty]

This is futile. Why go on a march, when the Media WON'T BE THERE!!
The Media will be in St. Paul for the convention, and THAT's where we need to focus our people.

I don't know how to do this, but I'd hate to see hundreds of people spend money flying to D.C. when they could fly to St. Paul.

Ron Paul's son announced recently that he & his dad were going to St. Paul, whether or not he is invited!

We need to be THERE, not in D.C.

You have NO IDEA what you are talking about!

Yeah you have three posts here and you are going to tell us what to do....