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[millercards]

Bah, Santorum and Gingrich's campaigns show them far ahead in the delegate count too. I don't trust anybodies delegate numbers anymore.

Ivash... we've been hearing stories about our successes in the caucuses.

Have you not been reading?

Gingrich stating that is ridiculous.

Santorum says he won Missouri, but he left with NO SUPPORT there. He's not taking the delegates, period.

The establishment tried to help his support team... but there WAS NO SUPPORT TEAM.

Turn off the TV my friend.

 

[Ivash]

Ivash... we've been hearing stories about our successes in the caucuses.

Have you not been reading?

Gingrich stating that is ridiculous.

Santorum says he won Missouri, but he left with NO SUPPORT there. He's not taking the delegates, period.

The establishment tried to help his support team... but there WAS NO SUPPORT TEAM.

Turn off the TV my friend.

Frankly Ron Paul's campaign stating that he has the second most delegates is ridiculous too. I've read things on this site- and I read them with as much salt as I read anything else. Of course Paul's campaign is going to be biased- he wants to win, after all, and he needs to rally the troops with his numbers.

I've been upfront that I am not a supporter of Dr. Paul, I try not to be too negative towards his strategy since I am a guest here. But, seriously, it's not the TV where I'm getting my information from- it's reality. He's won the Virgin Islands, a territory no one really cares about. Romney is on track to take the delegates required. Even if Dr. Paul somehow pulls off a victory with delegates (which I would find extremely impressive), the establishment would change the rules rather than let the primary be taken by a candidate who won no states.

Also, Santorum is feared and disliked by the establishment. They don't like Romney very much either (he comes off as a weak candidate), so most are waiting for 2016.

 

[millercards]

Ivash,

Surely there's no possible way that Ron Paul can get the 1,144 required delegates to win the nomination on the 1st vote. We all accept that.

Our goal is to rack up as many delegates as we can. From most of what I've heard (not just in RP territory) Santorum has been very unorganized. He might be getting better as of late, but I don't really hear about it in Missouri. This would tell me that he's just not fit to make it at all.

I think most of America knows Gingrich doesn't have a shot.

Romney... well... he's getting a lot of votes, but I don't meet many Romney supporters at all. That's not a speculation of a nation-wide theory, just my personal observance.

I also am speculative of everything I read, including this site. And currently, I don't think we're anywhere but 4th in delegates, but ONLY because the delegates haven't been assigned in the caucus states. I do think we are competing well though and are on pace to finish well within pack (maybe 2nd) if you were to add in the caucus delegate spots NOW.... now when they come in, some most likely after many of the winner take all states, 2nd will be a tough one. But by then, it might only be a 3 man race... back to that Santorum unorganization...

Now... with all that said. Your biggest argument, that the GOP won't allow it. If they find a way to block Ron Paul, that will be a huge victory for Paul's campaign. The GOP would be finished. A 3rd party run would have a much greater chance. And the process will have changed.

 

[seawolf]

The Names you see as Donors across the Official Give Me Liberty Donation Tracker Friday will be the true Ron Paul Supporters.

Any amount you can afford will be appreciated. I will Donate for sure, because I will never Let Ron Paul Stand Alone for Liberty ever again.

30 Years of being a lone voice in the wilderness is enough. Never Again!!!

 

[MisfitToy]

Ivash is a self-proclaimed friend of elitists. So if he truly is, then those folks have both Republican and Democrat candidates in their bag. I don't think he'd understand what we're fighting for and sees it as fruitless no matter what you say because he's conditioned to accept an assumed outcome.

I say eff the elitists and keep fighting the good fight because contrary to elisit beliefs, they don't own the world.

 

[Carson]

Is this the link to a legitimate website for donating?


https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

 

[sailingaway]

Is this the link to a legitimate website for donating?


https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

looks right: https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

 

[Carson]

Thanks sailingaway.

It felt right.

 

[Ivash]

Ivash,

Surely there's no possible way that Ron Paul can get the 1,144 required delegates to win the nomination on the 1st vote. We all accept that.

Our goal is to rack up as many delegates as we can. From most of what I've heard (not just in RP territory) Santorum has been very unorganized. He might be getting better as of late, but I don't really hear about it in Missouri. This would tell me that he's just not fit to make it at all.

I think most of America knows Gingrich doesn't have a shot.

Romney... well... he's getting a lot of votes, but I don't meet many Romney supporters at all. That's not a speculation of a nation-wide theory, just my personal observance.

I also am speculative of everything I read, including this site. And currently, I don't think we're anywhere but 4th in delegates, but ONLY because the delegates haven't been assigned in the caucus states. I do think we are competing well though and are on pace to finish well within pack (maybe 2nd) if you were to add in the caucus delegate spots NOW.... now when they come in, some most likely after many of the winner take all states, 2nd will be a tough one. But by then, it might only be a 3 man race... back to that Santorum unorganization...

Now... with all that said. Your biggest argument, that the GOP won't allow it. If they find a way to block Ron Paul, that will be a huge victory for Paul's campaign. The GOP would be finished. A 3rd party run would have a much greater chance. And the process will have changed.

Eh, it's not my 'biggest' argument. I don't think Ron Paul will get close to taking enough delegates to win. I honestly believe the odds of a brokered convention occurring are in the low single digit. You are completely right on a few points, though: Santorum is disorganized, and Gingrich has no chance. I know Santorum personally, actually, and he is a bitter person. He has no chance whatsoever. I have no love for him, or for Gingrich (who I have only met in passing), but I think that he has more delegates than Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul almost certainly has more than Gingrich, though.

Ivash is a self-proclaimed friend of elitists. So if he truly is, then those folks have both Republican and Democrat candidates in their bag. I don't think he'd understand what we're fighting for and sees it as fruitless no matter what you say because he's conditioned to accept an assumed outcome.

I say eff the elitists and keep fighting the good fight because contrary to elisit beliefs, they don't own the world.

I understand the hesitation of taking people 'at their word' on the internet. I can prove that I am part of the elite (the lesser elite, to be more... precise), however.

That being said, the idea that there is a unified elite is foolish. There isn't. A great deal of the elite dislike each other, even hate each other, due to either personal issues or ideological ones. There is no person, or group of people, who have both parties in their bag. Not even close. You can see that by the way the parties have trouble working with each other. Actually, there aren't even groups of people who control one party- you can see that by the splits in ideology of the Republicans and Democrats. The 'elite' are not a monolithic block; it is instead a collection of many individuals who have personal rivalries, disagreements, etc.

Finally, I grew up as part of the (lower) middle class, and have spent much of my life abroad. I support Ron Paul's general tint of foreign policy (not all of it, but I believe our military has become far too large to handle). As far as it goes I have not been (or even had the chance to be) 'conditioned' by anything except the many cultures I have lived in, to the same extent that Ron Paul supporters have been conditioned by their connection to the echo-chamber of being around other Ron Paul supporters.