How many of you understand the USA just elected a (potentially) brutal dictator?

tod evans said:
I know no such thing...

As for me and what I'll do.............I'll wait and see instead of speculating about another mans heart..

There've been more words said than I care to listen to, so I'll wait and see what transpires.
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It's not speculation.
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-teams-revenge-231222

Corey Lewandowski and Bannon on, blocking Nevertrumpers and neocons.

“My phone is ringing off the hook with people who were on the outs asking how they can get into Trump world,” said one operative who worked with Trump’s campaign. “I’m telling them there is no f---ing way they’re getting inside.”
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So when can we tell these little shills to piss off, with their false predictions, and left-wing FUD articles and rumors? They have been wrong the whole time, and they are just here to spread FUD.
 
Hillary is just so bad, and there is the SCOTUS. electing Trump averted a war with Russia, and ended any chance of TPP. but he needs to be watched. already the neo cons are pushing for neverTrumper Ayotte for Defense.
 
seapilot said:
If that is true that would be almost as good as him being president!
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Who is "they"?
How would that conversation start?...
My guess (if the rumor was to be in the realm of possibilities) is that Trump would call or invite Rand for a meeting and then float the idea of Ron for the position. The purpose being to End The Fed could be the only draw I see that would lure Ron.

But (in reality, I'm sure) too many of the people that will be surrounding Trump will object if Ron's name was seriously proposed. As soon as Trump understands that all his happy spending dreams couldn't be funded without the Feds printing press then the idea of Ron as Fed Chair (if ever serious to begin with, which is unlikely) is dead.
 
pao said:
Who is "they"?
How would that conversation start?...
My guess (if the rumor was to be in the realm of possibilities) is that Trump would call or invite Rand for a meeting and then float the idea of Ron for the position. The purpose being to End The Fed could be the only draw I see that would lure Ron.

But (in reality, I'm sure) too many of the people that will be surrounding Trump will object if Ron's name was seriously proposed. As soon as Trump understands that all his happy spending dreams couldn't be funded without the Feds printing press then the idea of Ron as Fed Chair (if ever serious to begin with, which is unlikely) is dead.
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Trump is magic with money and making deals. Because a bunch of politicians can't figure it out, does not mean he can not. His trade re-negotiations can potentially turn the whole ship around. Fact of the matter is the United States, and its economy, was parceled out and sold to the highest bidder since I was old enough to vote. The resulting debts were crushing.

People keep talking about the impossibles of this guy, without realizing the magnitude of what he has already done. He whipped the GOP, the media, and the chosen one, and he did it with his own way of doing things. the experts all lined up against him, and told him he was doing it wrong every second of every day. And now look at them.
 
pao said:
Who is "they"?
How would that conversation start?...
My guess (if the rumor was to be in the realm of possibilities) is that Trump would call or invite Rand for a meeting and then float the idea of Ron for the position. The purpose being to End The Fed could be the only draw I see that would lure Ron.

But (in reality, I'm sure) too many of the people that will be surrounding Trump will object if Ron's name was seriously proposed. As soon as Trump understands that all his happy spending dreams couldn't be funded without the Feds printing press then the idea of Ron as Fed Chair (if ever serious to begin with, which is unlikely) is dead.
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Ron could mint a 100 or so platinum coins with 1 trillion denomination on them. Pay them to the fed and say bye bye. Start printing up US treasury notes again.
 
seapilot said:
Ron could mint a 100 or so platinum coins with 1 trillion denomination on them. Pay them to the fed and say bye bye. Start printing up US treasury notes again.
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Love it! That would be a plan both Ron and Trump could get behind. Lol.
 
Good or bad, I predict he'll be the hardest working President in decades. He seems like the "get shit done" type, which I respect. Even though I probably won't care for the shit getting done.
 
Superfluous Man said:
You mean the Trump supporters right?
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No, we mean people who are suddenly "oh! oh! Trump dictator!" but haven't had a problem with the current regime and 8 years of weekly flying death robot hit list discussions.

That list which Rand Paul through his heroic first filibuster kept US citizens on US soil off of, for now.
 
thoughtomator said:
No, we mean people who are suddenly "oh! oh! Trump dictator!" but haven't had a problem with the current regime and 8 years of weekly flying death robot hit list discussions.

That list which Rand Paul through his heroic first filibuster kept US citizens on US soil off of, for now.
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you mean people that will now officially be able to point out all the shit you voted for. Yeah. Kick those out. Thats very HILLARY clinton of you.
 
thoughtomator said:
No, we mean people who are suddenly "oh! oh! Trump dictator!" but haven't had a problem with the current regime and 8 years of weekly flying death robot hit list discussions.

That list which Rand Paul through his heroic first filibuster kept US citizens on US soil off of, for now.
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I can't think of anybody who has been 100% complimentary of the current administration's policies and I doubt that any of us will wear Trump blinders for very long either. Bad policy is bad policy no matter who introduces it but we cannot even agree on the definition of bad. I am under the impression that most of us think that opening trade with Cuba and making a deal with Iran were both imperfect policies, but better than what was currently in place. On the other hand, Obamacare and the massive spending policies were horrible - worse than Bush.

We can spend the next few months wringing our hands or we can enjoy the lame duck session and refuel our souls before the real drama starts.
 
thoughtomator said:
No, we mean people who are suddenly "oh! oh! Trump dictator!" but haven't had a problem with the current regime and 8 years of weekly flying death robot hit list discussions.

That list which Rand Paul through his heroic first filibuster kept US citizens on US soil off of, for now.
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You're telling me that on this website there are a bunch of people who had no problem with Obama's drone killings? Who? Name names please.

The problem I see is that after doing a good job of opposing Obama for 8 years, and speaking truth to power, now that Trump won there are a lot of people here, maybe even a majority, who want to turn around and lick his boots pretending he's one of the good guys, even positively praising his statist rhetoric on things like trade and immigration.

How you chose your policy example I can't imagine, because Trump is FOR expanding assassinations to US soil, not against it. In fact, of all presidential candidates in both parties this year, he is the one who was singularly the most vocally in favor of further eroding our rights. That expansion of government power is what he means by making America great.
 
FunkBuddha said:
Good or bad, I predict he'll be the hardest working President in decades. He seems like the "get $#@! done" type, which I respect. Even though I probably won't care for the $#@! getting done.
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The operative word is "seems." Trump has mastered the art of making himself seem like what the people he makes deals with want. He calls this, "the art of the deal." He even wrote a whole book on it. Here's a quote from it:
“I play to people’s fantasies. . . . People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and it’s a very effective form of promotion.
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In fact, in that book, Trump even lies about how good of a liar he is. Here's the ghost writer's account of one part:
One of Trump’s favorite stories was about how he had tricked the company that owned Holiday Inn into becoming his partner in an Atlantic City casino. Trump claimed that he had quieted executives’ fears of construction delays by ordering his construction supervisor to make a vacant lot that he owned look like “the most active construction site in the history of the world.” As Trump tells it in “The Art of the Deal,” there were so many dump trucks and bulldozers pushing around dirt and filling holes that had just been dug that when Holiday Inn executives visited the site it “looked as if we were in the midst of building the Grand Coulee Dam.” The stunt, Trump claimed, pushed the deal through. After the book came out, though, a consultant for Trump’s casinos, Al Glasgow, who is now deceased, told Schwartz, “It never happened.” There may have been one or two trucks, but not the fleet that made it a great story.
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
 
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