How many of you understand the USA just elected a (potentially) brutal dictator?

[The One]

31 of us.

Wait...32.

 

[Madison320]

As I've said many times. My fear is that we get the inevitable crash on Trump's watch, capitalism gets blamed and we get Bernie Sanders in 2020.

I was talking with my liberal democratic sister how I expected a crash either way, due to the massive amount of stimulus since the crash in 2008. I that's why I wanted Hillary to win so we could blame it on her. She agreed. Then I told her that people were ALREADY blaming Trump for the coming crash and she said, "Yes but that's because all the economists agree that his economic policies will be a disaster." Arghhhhh. So apparently she DIDN'T agree that a crash is inevitable. I'm afraid she's typical.

 

[thoughtomator]

You're telling me that on this website there are a bunch of people who had no problem with Obama's drone killings? Who? Name names please.

Obviously IQ is a problem for you so let me try to break this down into smaller words. There's a guy issuing kill orders every week for 8 years and only NOW the whiners here start worrying about a dictator?

Since you haven't been here very long, why don't you dive into the archives a bit, and familiarize yourself with just how common the cry of "dictator" has been here under Obama.

 

[DamianTV]

Every tool has the potential for misuse and abuse.

The Office of the President of the United States is a tool. Not the person, but the power that the position offers. What determines if that tool will be misused is the person that wields that power. Trouble is that we have for far too long consolidated too much power to that position, thus, that power will attract those who seek to misuse it. If the position offers considerably less power, then the sociopaths would be attracted to other positions where they have better opportunity to abuse those below them.

Same thing happened with the actual Adolf Hitler. They attacked their own government, a false flag, began to consolidate power to one position, then put Hitler in as a Puppet who cut his strings. Hitler was also very popular. And even Time Magazines MAN OF THE YEAR. Then Hitler put his Dictator Pants on and we know the rest. Same potential can happen with Trump.

Edit: I have to add in that everyone that commits abuses of the position of POTUS thinks that what they are doing is the "best thing" for everyone. Including the whole fucking lot of them, Obama, Hittlary, Bush, Romney, McCain, Trump, etc. The ONLY candidate I have ever seen that was not drawn to the potential of abuses was Ron Paul himself. I even had some reservations about his son.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Obviously IQ is a problem for you so let me try to break this down into smaller words. There's a guy issuing kill orders every week for 8 years and only NOW the whiners here start worrying about a dictator?

Once again, who? Name names. Which people here didn't worry about Obama being a dictator?

The problem here is the exact opposite. There's no shortage of people here who spent the past 8 years complaining about Obama. And that's a good thing. But the problem we now face is that there seems to be a large contingent who is unwilling to be as condemnatory of Trump.

Since you haven't been here very long, why don't you dive into the archives a bit, and familiarize yourself with just how common the cry of "dictator" has been here under Obama.

It was very common. Where were you?

 

[Superfluous Man]

Every tool has the potential for misuse and abuse.

The Office of the President of the United States is a tool. Not the person, but the power that the position offers. What determines if that tool will be misused is the person that wields that power.

It's worse than that. Because the power itself is a corrupting force on that person, no matter who it is.

Unfortunately, with Trump, we have someone who, before he even touches that power, has already decided that he wants to expand it even beyond where Obama did.

 

[tod evans]

Once again, who? Name names. Which people here didn't worry about Obama being a dictator?

The problem here is the exact opposite. There's no shortage of people here who spent the past 8 years complaining about Obama. And that's a good thing. But the problem we now face is that there seems to be a large contingent who is unwilling to be as condemnatory of Trump.



It was very common. Where were you?

What, pray-tell, would you condemn him for?

Words?

 

[DamianTV]

It's worse than that. Because the power itself is a corrupting force on that person, no matter who it is.

Unfortunately, with Trump, we have someone who, before he even touches that power, has already decided that he wants to expand it even beyond where Obama did.

I think that statement has some inaccuracies, although mostly valid. High positions of power attract the already corrupted.

 

[nikcers]

What, pray-tell, would you condemn him for?

Words?

What would you condemn him for? What could President elect Trump do to burst your bubble?

 

[tod evans]

What would you condemn him for? What could President elect Trump do to burst your bubble?

I'm not in a bubble.

As I've already said I'm going to wait and see instead of doing the what-if hypothetical BS..

Actions speak louder than words, a smart man will sit and listen, it remains to be seen whether or not Trump acts intelligently...

 

[thoughtomator]

It was very common. Where were you?

It was very common?

What was your original username, and why did you decide to come back last month to start trolling?

 

[Superfluous Man]

What, pray-tell, would you condemn him for?

Words?

Yes. And not just any words. Words that tell us what he means to do to us as president.

What? Are we supposed to pretend he's going to support our cause, when everything he's said tells us he means to do the exact opposite?

Did you give Obama that kind of irrational benefit of the doubt?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Truth is we don't know. I don't think even Donald Trump knows what he's going to do. We could end up anywhere from a hyper despotic establishmentarian, to a largely benign ignoramus who does nothing, or anything in between. My personal guess is we will end up with a slightly more authoritarian version of the status quo, plus minor decoration changes like Obamacare will receive a new name.

 

[pcosmar]

What is happening to this forum, do you people actually believe he will save us from tyranny?

for my part,, Nope.

yet to be seen.

kind of exciting,,( in a reactor core breach sort of way)

 

[thoughtomator]

Anyone who looks to some third party to save them from tyranny betrays that they were never a libertarian to begin with.

Just as I had called out, appropriately, and in a timely manner.

 

[tod evans]

Yes. And not just any words. Words that tell us what he means to do to us as president.

What? Are we supposed to pretend he's going to support our cause, when everything he's said tells us he means to do the exact opposite?

Did you give Obama that kind of irrational benefit of the doubt?

Lookie sweet-pea I'm not the one getting my knickers in a twist over a politician runnin' his mouth..

How about you take your "irrational" and shove it right up your ass...

My postings about Obama are still here and unedited, go have a read, he was afforded the same wait-n-see attitude I'm giving Trump....

Rational behavior isn't getting ones self all aflutter over hyperbole, take a breath, calm down and then try really hard to sound logical when you post an opinion...Or live up to "superfluous" in the emotional department.

Even if Trump is Hitler incarnate what could you..............Or I, actually do?

I'll be the first to condemn actions that I disagree with, but the guy isn't even in office yet.

 

[nikcers]

Lookie sweet-pea I'm not the one getting my knickers in a twist over a politician runnin' his mouth..
I'll be the first to condemn actions that I disagree with, but the guy isn't even in office yet.

Words can't hurt you but would you condemn him for unconstitutional executive orders? Would you condemn him for expanding our wars in the middle east? Or would you just say that's Trumps game plan from day one he wanted to do something that our enemies aren't expecting?

 

[tod evans]

Words can't hurt you but would you condemn him for unconstitutional executive orders? Would you condemn him for expanding our wars in the middle east? Or would you just say that's Trumps game plan from day one he wanted to do something that our enemies aren't expecting?

I've already answered this for you once (or twice);

As I've already said I'm going to wait and see instead of doing the what-if hypothetical BS..

Actions speak louder than words, a smart man will sit and listen, it remains to be seen whether or not Trump acts intelligently...

 

[Origanalist]

Once again, who? Name names. Which people here didn't worry about Obama being a dictator?

The problem here is the exact opposite. There's no shortage of people here who spent the past 8 years complaining about Obama. And that's a good thing. But the problem we now face is that there seems to be a large contingent who is unwilling to be as condemnatory of Trump.



It was very common. Where were you?

Before or after his meltdown?

 

[DamianTV]

Words can't hurt you but would you condemn him for unconstitutional executive orders? Would you condemn him for expanding our wars in the middle east? Or would you just say that's Trumps game plan from day one he wanted to do something that our enemies aren't expecting?

When Bush was in office, the powers of the President were abused so that both Bush and Cheney financially profited from war in the Middle East. Bush = Oil and Cheney = Halliburton.

Had Hittlary been elected, she would have been a continuation of the current abuses. What Trump represents is changes being made so he can also financially profit by being the President. Giving up his paycheck is an Illusion, but rest assured that he would not try to draw focus to that unless he had money being made elsewhere. Assclowns like Cheney took both the paycheck as VP and exploited his power to make Halliburton financially profitable.