How do we help each other out?

[John E]

I've been wondering.... many of us believe that the worst has yet to come in these economically uncertain times.

It would be nice if the population at large actually heard what we had to say but seeing as that wont happen, how can we work together to off set the impact to us personally?

 

[Truth Warrior]

Quotable Mises - REALITY

 

[fedup100]

We need to stand up and really fight this thing now. We must take this to a new level. There are Congressmen that should help us including Paul.

First off no law or bill has any force in law if it is unconstitutional. Secondly, those who have voted this in have committed treason. That is what a domestic enemy is.

We must go to Paul and bring together other house members and as the people, we must direct them to order the National Guard to arrest the Domestic Enemies, now.

When I bring this subject up, in all cases, people ignore me or turn the other way. WHY?? This is the remedy that our founders left in place FOR US. WE are in great peril now, we must organize this and try.


Here is the real info if we have any brave enough to move forward. At the very least we must call Paul and Kucinich and get their opinion.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/national-guard-must-enforce-ar.php

 

[Dieseler]

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[John E]

fedup100: You are right but it will never happen.

 

[fedup100]

Most people are not aware how to do this. I bet most in Congress do not know how to do this. WE MUST TRY!

This is how we start it and act on it:

When this happens below, which we are now seeing, we must move to the next step:

A. Illegal activity is not getting investigated;

B. The President faces no prospect of an impeachment investigation, as the Framers promised in Federalist 77 ["his being at all times liable to impeachment"]

C. The Members of Congress have not timely conduct an investigation of war crimes or impeachable offenses;

D. The Supreme Law has not been enforced; and

E. The Constitution, with Member of Congress agreement, is seen as inapplicable to the United States Government and this President.

This is unacceptable. Other than hoping Congress cooperates with their legal obligations -- which they show they are not willing to do -- there is no credible plan to defend the Constitution with credible legal consequences.

Lawful arrest warrants for Members of Congress felonies must be on the table.

State Governors have the lawful authority to declare a state of emergency; work with the courts to secure arrest warrants; and use lawful force to detain, arrest, and deliver to a magistrate Members of Congress.

State Governors, national guard units, and judicial officers must work
together, process arrest warrants, and have them lawfully served on
Members of Congress.

The allegations for the arrest warrants for members of Congress link with their oath of office, and include:

 

[Truth Warrior]

We need to stand up and really fight this thing now. We must take this to a new level. There are Congressmen that should help us including Paul.

First off no law or bill has any force in law if it is unconstitutional. Secondly, those who have voted this in have committed treason. That is what a domestic enemy is.

We must go to Paul and bring together other house members and as the people, we must direct them to order the National Guard to arrest the Domestic Enemies, now.

When I bring this subject up, in all cases, people ignore me or turn the other way. WHY?? This is the remedy that our founders left in place FOR US. WE are in great peril now, we must organize this and try.


Here is the real info if we have any brave enough to move forward. At the very least we must call Paul and Kucinich and get their opinion.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/national-guard-must-enforce-ar.php

Reality check: The "law" is what the folks with most and biggest guns, says it is.

 

[cheapseats]

For the record, I do not incite activity...I merely remark on the logical extrapolations of illogical legislation.

Hypertaxation and a general Fines 'N Penalties R Us mentality usually inspire people to barter goods and services.

Also to work/hire "under the table."

 

[cheapseats]

Reality check: The "law" is what the folks with most and biggest guns, says it is.

It is not an abiding advantage, however, or we'd have already wrapped things up in Iraq.

But man oh man, is it a HUGE advantage at the gate. Remember us thundering into Baghdad?

I'm not so sure all our Big Guns are on their side, though. That's kind of the sticking point...will American troops fire on Americans, on THESE people's order?

Is the Third Brigade a Loyalist contingent, or a random bunch that have been shat upon as we have?

This is a good time to declare...not because I'm pleading for my life, exactly, but because I really mean it...law enforcement, the military and teachers should be MUCH better compensated for their incomparable services.

I am STILL astonished that our armed forces have to buy their own uniforms.

 

[fedup100]

Reality check: The "law" is what the folks with most and biggest guns, says it is.

Your right and 5 million pissed off real american wolves is a hell of an army. They may be defeated, but the enemy will have to spoil their own back yards to do it. There are a few states and governors that will try this or leave the union.

I just cannot accept my chains so easily.

 

[fj45lvr]

Join or create a local MILITIA (and gather sufficient arms and MOST importantly get involved with RELOADING AMMUNITION and storing it in a secure and concealed location).

network to have a group that can help one another when things collapse (each has things and talents to potentially offer)....store food (food is more valuable than gold and silver).

 

[Mac_jam]

Your right and 5 million pissed off real american wolves is a hell of an army. They may be defeated, but the enemy will have to spoil their own back yards to do it. There are a few states and governors that will try this or leave the union.

I just cannot accept my chains so easily.

Exactly.

 

[cbc58]

i am trying to put together the framework for system/service that allows people to create local buying groups/co-ops, along with a local information distribution service.

i was going to work on it this weekend some more. if anyone wants to start a local group... please contact me. the idea is to have numerous local focused groups connected togther for purchasing power, trading, news, etc. also... if anyone wants to help with programming, writing, brainstorming, anything... that would be great.

it will focus on basic necessities at first (food, fuel) and then expand to other things. The ideal situation would be to create enough internal demand for goods and services that it would make sense to become the actual producer of some products and eliminate most markups along the supply chain.

i was planning to do a moneybomb to get it jumpstarted because it's going to take some funds to set it up properly. Too bad there isn't $$ left over from the campaign for this.

 

[RickyJ]

how can we work together to off set the impact to us personally?

We need to buy a huge farm and live there growing our own food and meat. We need to be independent as we possibly can be. We either hang together or we will hang separately.

 

[gaazn]

If and when anything happens, I am sure the good people of this country will know what to do. Until then, I wouldn't join a militia because if you know about it so do they...