How can we get rid of our current media?

[thewolf7=1976]

Start small, build up and become the media. Check the prices for these radio stations, they range from $150k and up. Well within the moneybomb range.

http://www.buysellradio.com/forsale.html

 

[Redcard]

But you say this as if Fox and CNN aren't crap.
I think the demand for a variety of news sources is rising.
The technology hasn't been perfected yet and the demand hasn't quite reached that tipping point, but it's getting their fast.

There was an article in Business Week a few months ago about iTV. They describe the problem as being too many companies having to work together. But they say that it will revolutionize TV watching, and I believe that.

You have to understand that "they" have been saying that for nearly half a decade now. It's never materialized, and not because of the "MSM's control" , but because nobody's figured out how to seperate the crap from the good stuff while still maintaining a "neutral" state.

It's like with Podcasts. All the good podcasts nowadays, for the most part, are made by people with $1000s worth of equipment. When it started, everyone was talking about "the common man's radio" as if it was going to be that easy.

Now, we have people popping their Webcams up, but that's not going to be good enough for broadcast TV. So the question becomes, do you run with a $600 camera, or a $1500 camera?

So now, the internet TV is going to be cheap video vs quality video, and guess what'll get shown?

 

[Iwantchange]

Hah.
Right.

If you boycotted fox to the fullest, you'd be really surprised at all the stuff you're going to be boycotting. For starters, you likely won't even be allowed on the internet.

True, but the only thing these companies understand is "money". You hit them in the wallet and they'll react. You hit them any where else and it's just a flesh wound.

 

[NinjaPirate]

No... the ratings are drawn from surveys. I have DirecTV and i don't have it plugged into a phone so there's no way for my house to communicate back to them. It's a one-way system - they don't know what i'm watching.

That's what I thought, but I don't have a lot of knowledge on how ratings stats are collected. I have DVR through my cable company, so unles my box tells them what I'm watching, then there's no way they know if I'm tuned into CNN, Faux, etc.

 

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Cancel satellite or cable hook ups citing media BiaS

 

[voytechs]

It happens NOW.

It's called Youtube. The problem is, people still don't want to go away from their newsmedia. And people can't be sussed to sort out the signal from the noise.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

CurrentTV lets people do personally produced "Pods", and that's about as close as you've got to a mainstream crossing "Youtube" now.

Podcasts won't replace radio shows. ITv won't replace real TV. CNN won't be irrelevant SIMPLY because new technology comes into play. You must have acceptance of that tech.

The problem is that there is very little entertaining alternative news. Investigating news is a huge effort. You need to have correspondents all over the world, unless you plan on parroting AP or something like that. If you do that then you already lock yourself into the Maxtrix as someone here has put it. We need a channel that reports completely different type of news, differently.

Serious news but entertaining, original. Today's news is purposely all negative, there are lots of positive news being made, except the war and economic. This is a big effort in my opinion. If its not done right, it will fail. Don't try and copy existing news channels.

This really needs to be a global consortium of similarly minded news outlets. They need to agree on some principles and never deviate from them. That would bring lots of credibility back into the news.

 

[Redcard]

That's what I thought, but I don't have a lot of knowledge on how ratings stats are collected. I have DVR through my cable company, so unles my box tells them what I'm watching, then there's no way they know if I'm tuned into CNN, Faux, etc.

It does.

It also tells them what you've recorded, what you watch in your recorder, how many commercials you skip past, how long you fast forward, and how many times you rewatch something.

 

[Iwantchange]

Introduce competition, but the FCC makes that hard. When this is all said and done I'm down with working toether to make our own tv station.

You know I've thought about this... It would be a hard long path, but if you could pull it off, it would be the revolution finally getting some high ground.

 

[thehittgirl]

No... the ratings are drawn from surveys. I have DirecTV and i don't have it plugged into a phone so there's no way for my house to communicate back to them. It's a one-way system - they don't know what i'm watching.

Ahhh a Rupert Murdoch company. I need to call and cancel them...we are suspended right now.

 

[DAFTEK]

Originally Posted by j0ew00ds View Post
No... the ratings are drawn from surveys. I have DirecTV and i don't have it plugged into a phone so there's no way for my house to communicate back to them. It's a one-way system - they don't know what i'm watching.

Well that is somewhat true, not sure about DirectTV but with Dish Network if my DVR-722 is not connected to the phone line they suck another $6 a month from me, the receiver needs also to call out sometimes and thats how they know its not hooked up it also downloads the guide much faster that way too. Most people plug them in so they don't get the charge, you also have to have it plugged in to get PPV events. And some other crap, bill info etc... With Cable TV they don't need a phone line to know the channel your box is on, also what proof is there that DirectTV and Dish does not have the capabilities to get the info from you via Sat, from what i read on most forums no one has proved that the sat systems are 1 ways only....

That's what I thought, but I don't have a lot of knowledge on how ratings stats are collected. I have DVR through my cable company, so unles my box tells them what I'm watching, then there's no way they know if I'm tuned into CNN, Faux, etc.

My bud is a cable guy and he told me their boxes upload info to their central computers for data purposes blah blah crap. When i asked him if that includes what you watch his answer was "What do you think" It also sends the PPV request that way and other crap like local weather.

 

[PAULinSC]

Here's my take:

Who controls the media? Big Business.
Who controls the government? Big Business.

In order to have a "Revolution" we need to let Big Business know that we as consumers are in control. We control what we buy, when we buy it, and how much we buy.

We need a boycott. Not just a boycott of specific sponsors, a boycott of the luxuries in life. We need to save money, stop overconsuming, and put our money in local community banks. No more money in the stock market or big banks. We need to base our Revolution around saving money and being frugal.

The recession we are seeing in our economy is based on people over-consuming. There's no savings anymore, it's all bought on credit. We need to get out from under our debt.

We need to show that this recession can be prolonged NOT because we don't have money to spend, but because we CHOOSE NOT TO BUY things that aren't necessary.

If there's one thing that Big Business listens to, it's their quarterly reports. It would need to be known that the recession would be prolonged due simply to a MASSIVE number of unified citizens saying "We aren't gonna take this anymore! You are here because of us!"

Calling sponsors and news stations is mainly seen as a scare tactic. We need this to be an organized, long-term effort.

Our nation has been corrupted by Big Business and the Banks for almost 100 years. If it's all about money, we need to band together in a much larger group than we currently have, and let them know that we are in control of the money.

The American revolution started the same way. It started with a boycott due to unjust taxes. We need to adopt the same principles and take back our country

 

[Mortikhi]

How very true.

STOP BUYING SHIT!

 

[Captain Shays]

First we need to continue our nation wide boycott not of Fox themselves, but every one of their advertisers.

Second one goes along with it.

ROADSIDE BLOGS

We're pretty good at making signs. We need to continue them but not just for Ron Paul. We need to be issue specific.

Boycott Fox Advertisers signs all over the place. Everywhere a Fox News empolyee might see them. Everywhere a Fox advertiser might see them. Keep it up indefinatly.

Issue Blogs stating things like

"Don't Let Corporate Media Choose Our Candidates"

"Let's Stay In Iraq For 100 Years. Vote McCain"

"Hillary Not Anti War Just Anti Republican War"

(same for Obama)

"Ron Paul, You and Me Against The Corporate Power Elites"

"You Have Been Dumbed Down"

"I'll Give Up ALL My Freedom Then I'll Be Safe"

We could come up with hundreds more sayings like bumper stickers everyone will see and read.

Put them high up in trees and other places where it will be really difficult to take them down by those who disagree. Put them in high traffic areas.

Of course we should do this for Ron Paul's campaign.

Things like

The Corporations Don't Want You To Know About Ron Paul

The Military INdustrial Complex Has Chosen Your Cansisate"