How can we get rid of our current media?

[acptulsa]

No... the ratings are drawn from surveys. I have DirecTV and i don't have it plugged into a phone so there's no way for my house to communicate back to them. It's a one-way system - they don't know what i'm watching.

Umm... Since when is a phone line a one-way system? You may well be right, but I'm quite sure that many dish systems and all cable systems are able to--and do--keep track.

I remember the A.C. Neilsen survey. Took one once--about thirty years ago. Anyone filled one out lately?

 

[RevolutionSD]

The barrier to entry in the media market is high. However, I still see a lot of you watching Fox News and CNN. Surely, the RP revolution can back some web 2.0 alternative to the media.

If we're going to go beyond Ron Paul and his campaign, we have to confront the media. I can't watch CNN or FOX anymore without getting angry, so I just don't watch. We really need to avoid the media and let it die completely.

We're a market ourselves. We just need someone who's as critical of the media as Alex Jones without the baggage of Alex Jones. [1]


[1] I love the Alex Jones show, but I can't sell it to anybody else without being branded an idiot. I've tried, and all it has done is make people think less of me and label me a conspiracy kook.

It's called iTV. Internet TV. We will have it some day. 1000's of stations will make cnn, fox, etc. irrelevant. I just wonder how much the establishment is playing a role in blocking this technology from happening.

 

[wowabunga]

The best way is to go out and canvass for Ron Paul. You bypass any media blackout. Talking to people in person is a lot more effective than anything people hear on TV. People will turn to the internet as their news source

I'm betting that we won't recognize the internet in 2 years due to regulations. McCain is on record as saying that the web needs some oversight.

As to going out and talking to voters in public... YES YES YES it works... it can be personally rewarding... and good for America too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URTvgfnh1pM

Become The Media...
Ramblin Randy

 

[Redcard]

It's called iTV. Internet TV. We will have it some day. 1000's of stations will make cnn, fox, etc. irrelevant. I just wonder how much the establishment is playing a role in blocking this technology from happening.

It happens NOW.

It's called Youtube. The problem is, people still don't want to go away from their newsmedia. And people can't be sussed to sort out the signal from the noise.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

CurrentTV lets people do personally produced "Pods", and that's about as close as you've got to a mainstream crossing "Youtube" now.

Podcasts won't replace radio shows. ITv won't replace real TV. CNN won't be irrelevant SIMPLY because new technology comes into play. You must have acceptance of that tech.

 

[Elwar]

I think the only way for it to happen is this fancy invention in my mind:

Someone needs to create a box (mainly a gutted down computer) that connects to the Internet (either wirelessly or ethernet, either way it needs to be as easy as hell). The box will connect to a specific web site that has nothing but TV channels that you can flip through with a remote control just like a TV set.

Basic setup: you buy it at Best Buy or wherever...you take it home and it finds your wireless connection and connects to a default website: webthingy.tv and that site hosts about 100 channels of 24 hour TV streamed. You can't tell it's a web site, to the average user it's like they just bought a cable box that gives them 100 more channels without paying for cable (just the Internet connection).

Then, you can also go to a menu screen and choose other websites beside the default (sportsjunky.tv, 20 channels, kidschannels.tv, 10 channels, etc...) all TV sites open to creation by anyone...no centralized decision makers for what viewers watch (freedom.tv?).

Even further, you could have a phone jack in the box that you just plug into your phone line and it gets 'net access for those that don't have Internet (for a basic Internet fee).

The technology is there. It can be done right now by a bunch of computer geeks that connect their computer to their TV. But there are only so many channels online to watch.

With this, the audience will be there, the channels will be there...bam...good-bye old media.

 

[DAFTEK]

Boycott them, too. If you have cable or satellite, their ratings go up every time you tune in--and those ratings determine what they can charge for ad time.

I have said this all along, They don't need the Nielson Box to know your tunned in, they get the info straight from the Sat or cable box directly these days! Unless you watch Over The Air Antenna, by the way most locals Over The Air is more and more in HD now.... Also if you have Dish Network you can get the lower package that includes some great channels but no FOX or CNN so thats another way to do it if you want to boycott or just cancel them and get a windows media system on your 60inch LCD

 

[IPSecure]

We steal the peoples money, infiltrate with CIA interns and dumb blondes, and spin, spin, spin....

This is how it is done!

 

[Nadia]

Hound the liars

I love the videos where people follow Russert and Hannity with video camera in hand. We need to put them on the spot, call them on their lies and put it on youtube for all to see. If we make them uncomfortable and burst their little bubble, maybe they'll stop lying or at least quit their jobs.

I don't watch TV (house is not connected to the Matrix) but so many people still are so we can't just let them keep lying. I also think we need to call them the Corporate Media, not the MSM which gives them too much credibility. They are not 'mainstream' and they have lost all credibility by lying about Iraq, lying about a threat from Iran, lying about everything and then attempting to control our elections so they can keep on lying.

 

[Redcard]

I think the only way for it to happen is this fancy invention in my mind:

Someone needs to create a box (mainly a gutted down computer) that connects to the Internet (either wirelessly or ethernet, either way it needs to be as easy as hell). The box will connect to a specific web site that has nothing but TV channels that you can flip through with a remote control just like a TV set.

I have such a box that you describe.

It's been out there for years , both amateur created and professionally sold. They were sold at Best Buy for a bit, but they didn't end up selling too well, and are no longer sold.

Mine interfaces with Youtube.

I was thinking of making a media center that used Youtube videos and adaptive learning, but, every time I test the software, I get a bunch of crap with very few good things.

If everyone can make media, remember, everyone WILL make media.

 

[DAFTEK]

Old people will still watch FOX, CNN, MSNBC.... MSM


Best thing to to is call your local channels and insist to cover RP and remind them we have the power to hit their advertisers with tons of emails and boycott their products! In todays economy that wont be good for their pockets and it will be great for yours with more gold on your neck Like Mr-T

 

[RevolutionSD]

It happens NOW.

It's called Youtube. The problem is, people still don't want to go away from their newsmedia. And people can't be sussed to sort out the signal from the noise.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

CurrentTV lets people do personally produced "Pods", and that's about as close as you've got to a mainstream crossing "Youtube" now.

Podcasts won't replace radio shows. ITv won't replace real TV. CNN won't be irrelevant SIMPLY because new technology comes into play. You must have acceptance of that tech.

Like barely anyone is on YouTube over the age of 50.
It's not mainstream even though it seems like it to us.

I'm not saying iTV will replace regular TV overnight but I believe it can happen pretty fast.

 

[Redcard]

Like barely anyone is on YouTube over the age of 50.
It's not mainstream even though it seems like it to us.

I'm not saying iTV will replace regular TV overnight but I believe it can happen pretty fast.

It will happen fast so long as the signal to noise ratio remains high.

You have to offer a "better" service.. and if simply saying "Oh, anyone can make media and thousands upon thousands of stations" is enough, then why hasn't sattelite / terestial radio gone away to streaming services? The answer is, Thousands upon thousands of stations of crap is still crap.

And that's the problem with this "New Media Revolution." It's not watchable. There are streaming sites RIGHT Now. Internet sites out there right now that offer what you want, and set top boxes that connect RIGHT to them that have been sold in stores like Best Buy, Compusa, etc.

They just were in the store, nobody bought them, now they're out of the store. Windows Media Player on Media Center Edition PCs NOW (and only on those) are offering that kind of thing, but it's not getting used much.

 

[kpitcher]

Tv

If it's available to you, BBC America and PBS are decent. Much wider international news and they don't get stuck on the entertainment news making headlines.

Do I care which hollywood wannabe has been hospitalized/jailed/divorced/married/died/gave birth to/adopted... ? The typical american news channel thinks we do.

Reality TV is cheaper to produce so most '24 hour stations' don't dig into a real news story when they can get reality tv which the audience will happily consume.

 

[Iwantchange]

You get all the Ron Paul Supporters together, and anyone else that hates Faux and the other mainstream media terrorists, and you do a National News Black out and watch there stock fall.

 

[DAFTEK]

I love the videos where people follow Russert and Hannity with video camera in hand. We need to put them on the spot, call them on their lies and put it on youtube for all to see. If we make them uncomfortable and burst their little bubble, maybe they'll stop lying or at least quit their jobs..

WoooW Dude, why is it OK for Paparazzi to chase down Britney and we cant get enough grassroots to dedicate the same thing on the Neocons of MSM and start a huge Website and plaster them all over it. The FOX and Friends Net? Think about it, we can chase them Down constantly and take video and pictures of them every minute of their personal life's and see how they like to be the reported not the reporter This would have nothing to do with RP himself but it could be claimed a RP initiative if he doesn't become president which more and more is unlikely after watching last nights horse shit from Anderson Pooooper!

 

[Redcard]

You get all the Ron Paul Supporters together, and anyone else that hates Faux and the other mainstream media terrorists, and you do a National News Black out and watch there stock fall.

Hah.
Right.

If you boycotted fox to the fullest, you'd be really surprised at all the stuff you're going to be boycotting. For starters, you likely won't even be allowed on the internet.

 

[RevolutionSD]

It will happen fast so long as the signal to noise ratio remains high.

You have to offer a "better" service.. and if simply saying "Oh, anyone can make media and thousands upon thousands of stations" is enough, then why hasn't sattelite / terestial radio gone away to streaming services? The answer is, Thousands upon thousands of stations of crap is still crap.

And that's the problem with this "New Media Revolution." It's not watchable. There are streaming sites RIGHT Now. Internet sites out there right now that offer what you want, and set top boxes that connect RIGHT to them that have been sold in stores like Best Buy, Compusa, etc.

They just were in the store, nobody bought them, now they're out of the store. Windows Media Player on Media Center Edition PCs NOW (and only on those) are offering that kind of thing, but it's not getting used much.

But you say this as if Fox and CNN aren't crap.
I think the demand for a variety of news sources is rising.
The technology hasn't been perfected yet and the demand hasn't quite reached that tipping point, but it's getting their fast.

There was an article in Business Week a few months ago about iTV. They describe the problem as being too many companies having to work together. But they say that it will revolutionize TV watching, and I believe that.

 

[fedup100]

This topic must be placed in a think tank and resolved. We have the power as a group to put an end to this circus, the msm.

We do need to cancel their service if possible. We need to boycott their sponsors, but especially the local ones that pay for the local msm satellite stations.

We must form a lawsuit to stop this insult to our nation, it IS a matter of national security. They, the msm, must not be allowed to broadcast anything that would be considered news, they must be for entertainment only.

We must force through suits and legislation, all real news through independent citizen run and overseen news stations that report the real news 24/7 nationwide.

This is so important, we will never see another free election unless this is done.

 

[AlexMerced]

Introduce competition, but the FCC makes that hard. When this is all said and done I'm down with working toether to make our own tv station.

 

[Jim_Karr]

Higher China to blow up the news satlelite in space.LMFAO