How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet

Wait a second. How could the Pope be wrong? Isn't he infallible when speaking of matters of faith and morals?

I'm pretty sure the Catholic doctrine would say he's only immoral when speaking ex catherda.

Mind you, I'm not defending that stance either, but I'm pretty sure they don't even teach that his salvation is guaranteed, let alone that everything he says is true.
 
Wait a second. How could the Pope be wrong? Isn't he infallible when speaking of matters of faith and morals?

Read up on what Papal Infallibility is, but I don't expect you to because then you'd have a harder time misrepresenting what it means.

But again:

What is the Arabic word for god? What word do Arabic-speaking Christians use for god? When an Arabic-speaking Christian prays, what word does he use for God?

Simple yes and no answers will suffice, then we can be done with this.
 
No he hasn't. He hasn't addressed what I said at all. He began speaking about Islam, which I never brought up.

He probably got confused. Let's clear this up:


Sola_Fide, if you met an Arabic Christian who did not speak English, learned through a translator that this person believes the gospel and the doctrines of grace, but when he prays (in arabic) he refers to God as "Allah", by which he refers not to the Muslim God but the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, would you question his salvation because of his language?

(If Sola says that he would question his salvation, I owe eduardo a rep.)
 
He probably got confused. Let's clear this up:


Sola_Fide, if you met an Arabic Christian who did not speak English, learned through a translator that this person believes the gospel and the doctrines of grace, but when he prays (in arabic) he refers to God as "Allah", by which he refers not to the Muslim God but the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, would you question his salvation because of his language?

(If Sola says that he would question his salvation, I owe eduardo a rep.)

Why would it matter if he speaks English or not? If he prays in his native tongue, the word for God would be Allah.
 
Yes, that's a valid point.

I don't expect Sola to reply.

But if you are interested in reply, Sola, here are the questions one more time:

What is the Arabic word for god? What word do Arabic-speaking Christians use for god? When an Arabic-speaking Christian prays, what word does he use for God?

Simple yes and no answers will suffice.
 
I don't expect Sola to reply.

I can usually get him to reply to me. But that's probably because I agree with him a lot more often than you do, so I'm more likely to have actual questions as opposed to just looking for a fight.
 
I can usually get him to reply to me. But that's probably because I agree with him a lot more often than you do, so I'm more likely to have actual questions as opposed to just looking for a fight.

I wasn't looking any fight. I wasn't even replying to him, he's the one who began looking for a fight and began with his typical anti-Catholic crusade.
 
ACTS 17:22-31

22 Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; 23 for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:

TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.

Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
 
I wasn't looking any fight. I wasn't even replying to him, he's the one who began looking for a fight and began with his typical anti-Catholic crusade.

I can agree with you there, but I don't know if he will:p

Debating with a brain dead macaque is more productive that debating anything with Sola.

You only think that because you're a Catholic. I've actually learned a lot from talking to him.
 
You only think that because you're a Catholic. I've actually learned a lot from talking to him.

No, I think that because he's an arrogant jackass consumed with his own pride and more interested in condemning everyone else using his faulty interpretation of the Bible instead of engaging with anyone in honest debate or showing love and compassion to evangelise. I've had many pleasant dealings with Protestants on this forum and have learned a lot from them, so it has nothing to with me being Catholic.
 
For better or worse, I don't think this is Sola_Fide's point.

I don't think Sola is saying that an Arab Christian who prays to "Allah" by which he means the Christian God, but in a different language, is not saved.

What Sola is saying is that the Muslim version of God ("Allah") is fundamentally different than the true God, even if he is described as "Allah" by Arabic Christians. In other words, Sola_Fide is saying that an Arab Christian who speaks Arabic and prays to Allah is nonetheless not praying to the same God that Muslims pray to.

Acts 16

Then he came to Derbe and Lystra. And behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a certain Jewish woman who believed, but his father was Greek. 2 He was well spoken of by the brethren who were at Lystra and Iconium. 3 Paul wanted to have him go on with him. And he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in that region, for they all knew that his father was Greek. [my addition: He circumcised him not because it was mandatory or necessary, but to appeal to the Jews in that region. And take note that he was the son of a Gentile, particularly, a Greek. And the Greeks believe in a great plurality of gods with one head, and they also believed in divine-humans beings.]

4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered to them the decrees to keep, which were determined by the apostles and elders at Jerusalem. [my note: and what are these decrees but the very teachings of God in the Holy Spirit. His teachings on communal living, relationship with our neighbors, the worship and devotion towards God in prayers. And above all, communing of the Lord's Supper and Mystical Feast and celebrating His Resurrection. These are the traditions handed from the beginning and practiced since the beginning, the rituals established by decrees from the leaders of the Church in the world, namely the Apostles who were also the first Bishops of their days. This is what some call 'organized' religion].

5 So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and increased in number daily.


The Macedonian Call


6 Now when they had gone through Phrygia and the region of Galatia, they were forbidden by the Holy Spirit to preach the word in Asia. 7 After they had come to Mysia, they tried to go into Bithynia, but the Spirit did not permit them. 8 So passing by Mysia, they came down to Troas. 9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night. A man of Macedonia stood and pleaded with him, saying, “Come over to Macedonia and help us.” 10 Now after he had seen the vision, immediately we sought to go to Macedonia, concluding that the Lord had called us to preach the gospel to them.

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If it is the calling of Pope Francis to go and preach God's love to the Muslim world, then I commend him and wish him many years. :)
 
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No, I think that because he's an arrogant jackass consumed with his own pride and more interested in condemning everyone else using his faulty interpretation of the Bible instead of engaging with anyone in honest debate or showing love and compassion to evangelise. I've had many pleasant dealings with Protestants on this forum and have learned a lot from them, so it has nothing to with me being Catholic.

I'm curious, do you believe you could use this same exact post to condemn me?

I can't judge Sola_Fide's heart, but I can say that I certainly don't love the people I'm evangelizing as much as I should. I can admit to that.

He certainly beats any atheist on this forum at that.

Except that he has far, far, FAR more of the truth than any of them do.
 
Sola is here to out-Smug the Atheists.

A Christian man has invincible weapons of spiritual war that are mighty in God for the casting down of strongholds so that every thought is taken captive to the mind of Christ. I said on the first page that most people haven't come across a Biblical Christian who knows what he believes and why he believes it, and knows what he doesn't believe and why he doesn't believe it. Biblical Christianity is an invincible system of thought.
 
A Christian man has invincible weapons of spiritual war that are mighty in God for the casting down of strongholds so that every thought is taken captive to the mind of Christ. I said on the first page that most people haven't come across a Biblical Christian who knows what he believes and why he believes it, and knows what he doesn't believe and why he doesn't believe it. Biblical Christianity is an invincible system of thought.
Well said.
 
Smug Atheist, here. Just laughing hysterically at how all you delusional people get mad about how you interpret your delusions. The bible and the Lord of the Rings are so alike. A bunch of moral lessons placed inside a nifty fictional story by a very talented creative writer. Now, since religion is another form of Power, remember,

One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
 
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