How are we doing in the African American community

ron paul will end the war on crack. and for our white trash friends, ron paul will end the war on on meth.
 
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This is pretty tough when you have a black democrat in the top tier.

However, I believe that eventually Paul will get a good percentage of the africa-american vote.
 
I disagree with you, but mainly on the basis that Collectivism is precisely what Ron Paul is against and I happen to agree with that. Every American needs to be treated as an individual.

Yes, it is how marketing works-divide and conquer mentality, just like politicians and the rest of government. The bokk "The Red Web" explores how this all began in the early part of the century as with unions. Divide and conquer is what the other candidates do and is the reason they must think about their responses. Dr. Paul simply responds with honesty. I believe as Dr. Paul believes that most Americans appreciate honesty more than pandering and are intelligent enough to know the difference.

Thnking people, regardless of which group into which you wish to lump them, will always think for themselves and that is a great part of Dr. Paul's message. To go against that would be pandering to groupism and rejecting Dr. Paul's philosophy.

He, in his speeches, says and does nothing different to attract a particular group. He never flip-flops and that is the danger of trying to appeal to special groups of any kind.

So personally, I believe it is detrimental to massage the message for that purpose. It is absolutely that the message stand on its own.
 
I have no idea what race most people are on this board and when you think about it, that's pretty cool.

However, I find it very interesting that after Ben Elliott in post 3, told us he was African-American, that no one ever asked him what he thought. We just go on and proceed to say what we each think is the best way to get the word out to African-Americans. No one apparently even considered asking Ben, who just might know more about this subject than those of us from another race. ;)
 
I disagree with you, but mainly on the basis that Collectivism is precisely what Ron Paul is against and I happen to agree with that. Every American needs to be treated as an individual.

Yes, it is how marketing works-divide and conquer mentality, just like politicians and the rest of government. The bokk "The Red Web" explores how this all began in the early part of the century as with unions. Divide and conquer is what the other candidates do and is the reason they must think about their responses. Dr. Paul simply responds with honesty. I believe as Dr. Paul believes that most Americans appreciate honesty more than pandering and are intelligent enough to know the difference.

Thnking people, regardless of which group into which you wish to lump them, will always think for themselves and that is a great part of Dr. Paul's message. To go against that would be pandering to groupism and rejecting Dr. Paul's philosophy.

He, in his speeches, says and does nothing different to attract a particular group. He never flip-flops and that is the danger of trying to appeal to special groups of any kind.

So personally, I believe it is detrimental to massage the message for that purpose. It is absolutely that the message stand on its own.

You don't have to change the message or pander, but different parts of the message will appeal to different groups of people. Marketing is not stereotyping. It is using demographic data to learn what appeals best to different market segments and exploit it.

Putting people in groups for the purpose of marketing is absolutely necessary no matter if you are selling a candy bar or a candidate.
 
The fact is that blacks vote in a block. The last presidential election showed that when 90% of the black vote went to Kerry. I think that getting them to switch is something you might be able to do for a second term, but they are too firmly entrenched in their voting habits to change it with 11 months remaining, better to concetrate on those who've bever voted or who have dropped out of the process.

And since white males are the single largest voting block, why would you be so dismissive of them in order to pander to a group that is unlikely to switch party affiliation?

You could say the same thing about White Males, Christians, or any "group" you want to label people.

Frankly, I am surprised so many blatantly collectivist people support RP and yet how dismissive you are of other perceived collectivists.

But it's great to have a "big tent."
 
Look at the values voters debate that was held at Morgan State University in Baltimore, MD. Didn't see that on the mainstream channels? Only 3 or 4 of the candidates showed up, one of them was Ron Paul. The so-called "frontrunners" snubbed the entire debate, their racism shining through--then the mainstream media doesn't air it. This speaks volumes.
 
I like the term black folk.

And the war on drugs, man, watching cops pisses me off so much when I see some black guy randomly stopped, searched, adn hauled off to jail because he has some marijuana in his pocket.. (same with white guys too)
 
Have a money bomb in honor of MLK's birthday. Even for all the good he did, he was still a communist, so maybe not the best match for Ron Paul.


If there is a semi-successful money bomb on this day and it does receive media attention, most journalists and reporters probably wouldn't even bring up the point of MLK having been a communist. A money bomb on MLK day would speak volumes (in an indirect way, more to rouse curiosity) to what the Ron Paul Revolution is all about - FREEDOM.

Now for a few relevant ideological quotes of the day:

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand

"Wars are poor chisels for carving out peaceful tomorrows." Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called 'diversity' actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist. We should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty." - Ron Paul, 4/18/07

"We don't get our rights because we're gays, or women, or minorities; we get our rights from our Creator as individuals, so every individual should be treated the same way." - Ron Paul

You probably know where I got those last three quotes.:)
 
I believe the racial voting block phenomena will change over time. That will be the best indicator of positive change in America.

The demographic makeup of Ron Paul supporters is very difficult to guage because race isn't a basis for his general platform. Thats the beauty of it. The big tent of liberty has been erected; now they all will come. :)


The fact is that blacks vote in a block. The last presidential election showed that when 90% of the black vote went to Kerry. I think that getting them to switch is something you might be able to do for a second term, but they are too firmly entrenched in their voting habits to change it with 11 months remaining, better to concetrate on those who've bever voted or who have dropped out of the process.

And since white males are the single largest voting block, why would you be so dismissive of them in order to pander to a group that is unlikely to switch party affiliation?
 
Have a money bomb in honor of MLK's birthday. Even for all the good he did, he was still a communist, so maybe not the best match for Ron Paul.

no one sees him as a communist tho. in fact no one gives a shit he is one. all that matters is that he fought for black rights, he's a hero to all black and even all white ppl
 
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