Hotair: Rand Paul differentiates foreign policy from his father’s brand

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Hotair: Rand Paul differentiates foreign policy from his father’s brand

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/25/an-attack-on-israel-is-an-attack-on-the-us-says-rand-paul

Allahpundit wrote Wednesday that Rand Paul is working hard to differentiate from his father’s brand, but … wow. Breitbart’s Ben Shapiro asked Paul the Younger about aid to Israel, which Paul says he’d like to eliminate only after eliminating all foreign aid — and that the effort should start with nations where the people “burn the American flag,” and perhaps Israel last. If President, Paul pledges to send a message that American troops will intervene on Israel’s behalf if attacked, regardless of aid decisions, using the NATO formulation:
Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul took what very well could be considered his most pro-Israel stance yet, saying in an interview that an attack on Israel should be treated as an attack on the United States.

Asked whether the United States would stand with Israel and provide it foreign aid if the Jewish state were attacked by its enemies, Paul went a step further.

“Well absolutely we stand with Israel,” he said in an interview with Breitbart News, “but what I think we should do is announce to the world – and I think it is pretty well known — that any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States.”

Can you imagine Paul the Elder ever saying, “An attack on Israel is an attack on the US”? I doubt he’d even say that about NATO countries.

Needless to say, this will go a long way with Republicans and conservatives to put their trust in Paul the Younger’s judgment.
What, though, will it do for hopes that Rand Paul could create a fusion between traditional Republicanism and the more rational elements of Ron Paul’s followers? It’s one thing to establish a separate brand from his father, but this looks more like repudiation — and the Ron Paul Revolution will almost certainly feel the same way.
 
Ugh. This is the last thing I wanted to see from our '16 hope.

Treating Israel as a surrogate state of the USA only serves to further compound our regional problems. Stupid.
 
Nope,, I detest HotAir.

and I am not the only one here that already had that reaction based on nothing but Rand's own words.

So? To me that means that those people are not listening to what Rand has said and done any better than you have.
 
and I am not the only one here that already had that reaction based on nothing but Rand's own words.

No, you're not.
The wedge has been getting driven for years now. Things calm down for a month or two, and then BAM someone swings the sledge and that wedge gets driven a little bit deeper.

And every time I look up to see who's swinging I find out, every single time, that it's RAND FUCKING PAUL.
 
Ugh. This is the last thing I wanted to see from our '16 hope.

Treating Israel as a surrogate state of the USA only serves to further compound our regional problems. Stupid.


Getting into entangling alliances are the kind of thing that has promoted terrorist attacks on the USA in the past.
 
Look at the comments, this is exactly the kind of people Rand is aiming them at and it's working.

They're impressed...

This is all part of Rand's strategy, it's a fine line but many of us support him in this venture and I think he knows that.
 
I've been as big of a Rand supporter as anyone, and he hasn't lost my support. But, I don't think he's doing a very good job of reaching out to the liberty movement at the moment. I think he's so concerned about winning over rank and file Republicans and pro Israel people that he's forgetting that his father's supporters aren't going to just automatically support him no matter what. He's going to run the risk of alienating a large chunk of Ron's supporters and make it hard for himself to raise money when/if he runs in 2016.
 
I've been as big of a Rand supporter as anyone, and he hasn't lost my support. But, I don't think he's doing a very good job of reaching out to the liberty movement at the moment. I think he's so concerned about winning over rank and file Republicans and pro Israel people that he's forgetting that his father's supporters aren't going to just automatically support him no matter what. He's going to run the risk of alienating a large chunk of Ron's supporters and make it hard for himself to raise money when/if he runs in 2016.

I dont think he will as he does enough to keep his 'base' support while reaching out.

To those who pay attention anyway.

If you look at his stands on civil liberties and there will be plenty more.

I think he can pull it off and bring in a lot of new people.

Look at his facebook, 500k followers. That will be at Ron's 1 million+ by the time he announces.

Can you imagine the moneybombs and the funds he could raise with all these new fans and hopefully most of those who have followed him for years (and trust him)
 
If you look at his stands on civil liberties and there will be plenty more.

Yeah, but unfortunately I care more about foreign policy issues than I do about civil liberties. The reason why I supported Ron back in 2007 and 2008 was because of his opposition to the Iraq War. Ron's foreign policy views were the reason why many conservatives hated him, but it was the primary reason why I supported him over the other candidates running for President. I don't want Rand to move too far away from Ron's foreign policy views.
 
Rand Paul is NOT Ron Paul and we shouldn't think the two are the same. There are those who care more about civil liberties then Foreign Policy and those people will continue to support Rand Paul but I think it would be foolish to think that he has all of our support unconditionally. He is basically trading in those who admire Ron Paul's foreign policy to pick up the votes of the neo-cons.

Some people will like it and view this as another way to "win over the Republicans." Some people will hate it and view this as another Rand Paul slide towards neo-conservatism. I personally think that if Rand Paul is talking like this now, I shutter at how much more of a neo-con he will become when 2016 rolls around.
 
Yeah, but unfortunately I care more about foreign policy issues than I do about civil liberties. The reason why I supported Ron back in 2007 and 2008 was because of his opposition to the Iraq War. Ron's foreign policy views were the reason why many conservatives hated him, but it was the primary reason why I supported him over the other candidates running for President. I don't want Rand to move too far away from Ron's foreign policy views.

Rand on the last foreign adventure:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLY19PnY2m8
 
Its become laughable at this point.

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I dont think he will as he does enough to keep his 'base' support while reaching out.

To those who pay attention anyway.

If you look at his stands on civil liberties and there will be plenty more.

I think he can pull it off and bring in a lot of new people.

Look at his facebook, 500k followers. That will be at Ron's 1 million+ by the time he announces.

Can you imagine the moneybombs and the funds he could raise with all these new fans and hopefully most of those who have followed him for years (and trust him)


Ya he might be able to that...in the primary.

And he shouldn't complain once there are better independent candidates running in the general election who cost him the election because he squandered his father's libertarian base (which is has already done btw.) Mission accomplished Rand.
 
Rand on the last foreign adventure:

Yeah, he's still probably the best we have in the Senate on foreign policy issues, but that's not saying much. I would simply like for him to be more specific. He's basically said that he would close down some foreign military bases as President. Well, that could mean that he would close down 2 foreign military bases, or he could close down 800 and leave 100. What does he think our presence in the world should actually be? I'd like him to explain that. And no, I don't believe he needs to keep his views on that a secret in order to "slide under the radar."
 
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It does give me pause and I hope Rand doesn't expand his base appeal right into the typical republican stance on the middle east. It will be sad because that will be two Pauls that have let me down. I wouldn't vote for Ron anymore after watching his last two campaigns.
 
Ya he might be able to that...in the primary.

And he shouldn't complain once there are better independent candidates running in the general election who cost him the election because he squandered his father's libertarian base (which is has already done btw.) Mission accomplished Rand.

I don't think he has and any libertarian who votes LP in the general because they don't like Rand trying to broaden their appeal are idiots on a par with the LP voters in Justin Amash's district.
 
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