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With persistence, I've forced you to back down from some of your baseless claims. That's enough for me and enough to discredit you. Now you're trying to prove a point by reading into the details of the language used. :rolleyes:

I'm done with you. Thanks for the show.

Notice the word "enforcing"! Enforcing.

To Obey: Enforcing
 
Your analysis is dead wrong. The socialists get their garbage implemented because those ideas are handy for the regime. Supporting an intellectual lightweight like Johnson just cuz he's kinda libertarian is idiotic.

The socialists have gotten their garbage implemented by shifting the goalposts in their direction over time. "The regime" didn't just wake up one day, decide the founding fathers were outdated, and go all socialist on us. It has been a long, slow process.

I'm all for people that would represent progress in our direction. The goal for the future should be to achieve what the socialists have - turning all elections into competitions between two individuals that represent variations in our beliefs.

So long as we continue to hold tests for purity we will continue to be ineffective on the national scene.
 
So long as we continue to hold tests for purity we will continue to be ineffective on the national scene.

For me its not the issue that he isn't a "pure" libertarian. Not being a libertarian, but a constitutional conservative, whether he is a "good' libertarian is irrelevant. What si relevant to me is that he could be a persuasive and strong leader. And I haven't seen anything from him that has convinced me he would be. This may change in 2016 if Ron doesn't pull this off and Gary matures and grows on the national stage. But I can't judge on what may be, only what he is now. And he is really lacking in leadership skills in my opinion.
 
For me its not the issue that he isn't a "pure" libertarian. Not being a libertarian, but a constitutional conservative, whether he is a "good' libertarian is irrelevant. What si relevant to me is that he could be a persuasive and strong leader. And I haven't seen anything from him that has convinced me he would be. This may change in 2016 if Ron doesn't pull this off and Gary matures and grows on the national stage. But I can't judge on what may be, only what he is now. And he is really lacking in leadership skills in my opinion.

It's not leadership he lacks, in my opinion, it's charisma. If he was more charismatic, then the leadership he demonstrated in New Mexico as governor, and as a business owner, would be doubly amplified.

Just an actual constitutional conservative would pull things more in a libertarian direction right now. Ron Paul, despite rhetoric demonstrating he was probably a voluntaryist, was going to govern as a constitutional conservative if elected.

Liberty candidates should be top priority. But if the choice is a constitutional conservative, given the political climate today, then that represents a shift in the right direction. Hell, if we could eventually change the national discussion to "Libertarian versus Constitutional Conservative for the Presidency", then we've accomplished something big. It's certainly better than "Socialist versus Neoconservative".
 
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