Hitler wins again. Yay democracy.

[heavenlyboy34]

Kaiser = Emperor

Otto von Bismarck was Minister President of Prussia and then Chancellor of the German Empire under Kaisers Wilhelm I, Friedrich III, and Wilhelm II until 1890.

The President of the Weimar Republic when Hitler came into power was Paul von Hindenburg until his death in 1934.

That is exactly correct. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Uh. What about all those computer things? You know, Great Britain had a little computer going ding ding ding breaking the German codes. Backing that up was a much larger computer in the United States buried a lot deeper into the wood work so much so that it wasn't even revealed to exist until here recently. It was the real thing.
Significance?
Well, unbeknownst to the Germans, their planned invasion of Moscow got intercepted by the British and Americans and then passed along to the Russians well in advance of the offensive. And did Russia obliterate the Germans as a result? Hell no. The Germans still came close to winning.
You know, the Germans weren't the master race, but they sure did have a hell of a good argument.

I didn't say the Soviets obliterated the Germans. The Germans had superior weaponry and training. They lost for similar reasons Napoleon and others attempting to invade Russia lost-bad planning and the Russian winters. Hitler was kind of insane too, which didn't help.

 

[acptulsa]

That is exactly correct. Thanks for correcting me.

Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to help the powers that be lead us down the garden path.

I didn't say the Soviets obliterated the Germans. The Germans had superior weaponry and training. They lost for similar reasons Napoleon and others attempting to invade Russia lost-bad planning and the Russian winters. Hitler was kind of insane too, which didn't help.

Um, they almost obliterated each other. Sort of the slow version of Mutually Assured Destruction.

 

[Demigod]

I didn't say the Soviets obliterated the Germans. The Germans had superior weaponry and training. They lost for similar reasons Napoleon and others attempting to invade Russia lost-bad planning and the Russian winters. Hitler was kind of insane too, which didn't help.

The Germans most certainly did not have better equipment then the Russians,what the Germans at the start of operation Barbarosa had was generals that were heads above their Russian politically positioned counterparts and new tactics that were far superior.The most important thing that the Germans did had was LUCK.

Stalin and the Red Army were preparing to invade Germany as soon as the Germans defeated the UK.This was their plan and why they signed a NAP with Nazi Germany.They wanted to let the Germans and France/UK go to war for a few years like they did in WW I and then when they were weak attack them both and take entire Europe in one sweep.This is also the reason why the Red Army sustained such casualties in the beginning of the war,they were preparing for an attack not for defense,without any defense the Germans with their blitzkrieg managed to encircle enormous Red Army units and capture them.Their entire force was preparing for a war that would come 2-3 years in the future and which would be an offensive one.This is also way Stalin was so stubborn that the Germans were not going to attack and that was because he had a plan in his head and he could not see what was happening before his eyes.( the same thing was planned for Japan where the SU had the same plan to wait for Japan to stretch it self to thin and then take everything in one sweep.If Japan had not surrendered to the USA in just more than a month the Red Army was preparing to invade from their Northern Islands ).

After the initial losses in tanks,aircraft and artillery were replaced and the politically positioned Generals were replaced with competent ones the German army could not win a single battle.At the end of the war the Red Army was the best trained,best lead and best equipped army.If Paton would have tried to go to Moscow it would have been a bloodbath but for his man.

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[Voluntary Man]

The test is not completely unbiased. The description of Candidate A includes lots of negatives









While the virtues of candidate B are all positives.









It is set up to encourage people to vote for "B" over "A". The results should not be a surprise at all. Line up the best of one candidate against the worst of the other and people will choose the best.

Nothing is unbiased. If you can't recognize bias, though, you probably shouldn't be a lawyer....or a voter.

 

[Voluntary Man]

Line up the best of one candidate against the worst of the other and people will choose the best.

What planet do you live on? I'm packing my gear. All I need is an address.

 

[Confederate]

An emperor is a ruler over a "world" of many kings and kingdoms.

Yes and that' what the Kaiser (Emporer) of Germany did. The Kaiser was also King of Prussia, but there were 26 other rulers who ruled over different sovereign territories under the German Empire.

For example, the King of Bavaria, Kingdom of Saxony, Kingdom of Württemberg, the Grand Duchy of Baden, the Principality of Lippe, and the Principality of Waldeck-Pyrmont among others. Each had its own ruler.

 

[Aratus]

I knew this thread would attract the St#rmfr#nt#rs

the poster in question did have a ban placed on their opines for basically the full extent of 2012
due to the intense volatility of the election year. anything positive or negative about the head nazi
is definately predestined to go on someone's belated radar in more ways than one! the OP delves
into what good PR verses bad or lousy PR does for one's public image, and how the devil is in the
very details, how if you look at George Washington's participation in the French and Indian War as
well as how he demanded that the Constitution comes into being in the manner it does, he almost
looks like he was a driven as Napoleon was, even though he had an ego that was healthy and not
given to an egotistical meglomania equal to the French tinhorn & tyrant. the professor hit the class
square on how superficial perceptions can be, and how voting for precisely the wrong person dooms
a democracy or a republic. someone who is amoral tries to tailor a pitch to the crowd of the moment.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

kids are taught to share and to obey.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Yes and that' what the Kaiser (Emporer) of Germany did. The Kaiser was also King of Prussia, but there were 26 other rulers who ruled over different sovereign territories under the German Empire.

For example, the King of Bavaria, Kingdom of Saxony, Kingdom of Württemberg, the Grand Duchy of Baden, the Principality of Lippe, and the Principality of Waldeck-Pyrmont among others. Each had its own ruler.

I wasn't arguing. Most people think an emperor is the same as a king. When Jesus was being crucified, He acknowledged the authority of a king and a governor with these two being about equal in power. He abolished the position of emperor, which would have done away with the pope, replacing that higher authority with twelve apostles.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I didn't say the Soviets obliterated the Germans. The Germans had superior weaponry and training. They lost for similar reasons Napoleon and others attempting to invade Russia lost-bad planning and the Russian winters. Hitler was kind of insane too, which didn't help.

How many thousands of years are we going to allow ourselves to be suppressed into thinking Hitler was Satan? When people look back to this time, they are going to think of us as backwards believing in a primitive Godhood.

Hitler = God of evil.
Santa Clause = God of giving.
Obama = God
William F. Buckley = God of brain
Hilliary = goddess of man haters
Martin Luther King = God of one day off from school
Madonna = goddess of blonde slut

 

[Aratus]

UEW--- some ten threads with Hitler videos or photos in 'em could bring any earnest campaign close to a swansong moment
despite the vast number of posters here in sincere ASCII again slamming into herr hister & his egomania as a response to
the same. after our poor "sofia" accused someone on the campaign of being totally "wus" soft on mr. mitt the year ban then
happened until we all saw how mitt's EGO flipflopped over and around mr. newt's bigger EGO. having tooooooooo many old
photos of "herr hister" onsite here has the RPF forums feeling almost comfy for crypto~fascists. it creates the very wrong vibe.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

How many thousands of years are we going to allow ourselves to be suppressed into thinking Hitler was Satan? When people look back to this time, they are going to think of us as backwards believing in a primitive Godhood.

Hitler = God of evil.
Santa Clause = God of giving.
Obama = God
William F. Buckley = God of brain
Hilliary = goddess of man haters
Martin Luther King = God of one day off from school
Madonna = goddess of blonde slut

That's an amusing way to put it. Now that I think about it though, you're quite right. People in Western societies in particular have a way of deifying politicians. Even on this forum people worship the founding fathers without realizing the cultish nature of it.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Um, they almost obliterated each other. Sort of the slow version of Mutually Assured Destruction.

Never thought of it quite that way, and it strikes me as funny somehow.

 

[TheTexan]

The test is not completely unbiased. The description of Candidate A includes lots of negatives

I stopped reading your post when you bolded "advocated secession" as a "negative."

You basically lost all credibility for this thread right there, sorry

 

[Danke]

I stopped reading your post when you bolded "advocated secession" as a "negative."

You basically lost all credibility for this thread right there, sorry

"This thread?"

Zippy nearly always takes the mainstream/establishment position.

 

[TheTexan]

"This thread?"

Zippy nearly always takes the mainstream/establishment position.

Ya I'm not sure exactly why he visits these boards. Unless he's DHS

 

[Zippyjuan]

FEMA.

 

[torchbearer]

FEMA.

Super Shelter.
I've been in it.

 

[gwax23]

Hitler declared war on us. We had every just reason to go in. And as others have said at least we prevented a soviet takeover of the world as a indirect consequence of our intervention.

The soviets would not have been able to win without us. Without lend lease and the western front the soviets would of been forced to sign some sort of german favored peace agreement and loose most of its territory.

Same goes for the UK and other minor allies. They all would of been defeated eventually had we not intervened.

Also to that neonazi posing as a libertarian if you are trying to pretend that Hitlers economic policies were free market in nature you truly are delusional. The entire economy was in the hands of the state especially by the end of the war. It was corporatism meets socialism at its best.

Also I liked A immediately. Someone said A's description highlighted the worst qualities of the candidate. That cant be farther from the truth it highlighted their BEST qualities. It would of been an easy vote for me and I hope for most ppl on this forum save for the neonazi.