Here we go! One of our own takes on Reince Priebus for GOP Chairmanship

[georgiaboy]

1. this is awesome.
2. what are his creds beyond what has already been stated? Does he have any national experience?
3. what are our chances?

 

[tuggy24g]

Just wondering if there is anything we can do to help him? can we donate to some sort of campaign or promote him. I want to help to have one of ares to win!

 

[Britannia]

I wish Mr. Willis the very best of luck and I will be watching what occurs with great interest and willing him to succeed, especially after the quite disgraceful way the delegation from Maine was treated at the RNC. Those people were heroic, there's no other word for it. And Nevada too, of course

 

[sailingaway]

164 RNC members exist to selection the chairman.

How many do we have? Spiker and Smack?

We have some committeemen and women, we elected Joe Miller's wife, people in Maine, etc etc, our MN person we had lost, don't know if we got her back yet, we expected to the next election cycle. Not sure when MN does that.

And for all we know, a bunch of them don't have strong feelings on this. Politely reaching out to your voting RNC reps isn't that hard. I posted the email list earlier in this thread, although it needs a little updating here and there.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

This might make other people throw their hat into the ring now. Might be a good thing having a bunch of people gunning for Priebus.

 

[BSU kid]

This might make other people throw their hat into the ring now. Might be a good thing having a bunch of people gunning for Priebus.

But might too many split the anti-Priebus vote and leave him in charge anyway?

 

[Agorism]

We have some committeemen and women, we elected Joe Miller's wife, people in Maine, etc etc, our MN person we had lost, don't know if we got her back yet, we expected to the next election cycle. Not sure when MN does that.

And for all we know, a bunch of them don't have strong feelings on this. Politely reaching out to your voting RNC reps isn't that hard. I posted the email list earlier in this thread, although it needs a little updating here and there.

A lot of these confrontations come down to second and third round voting with margins of 0-5 or whatever so if you have 10 member block that becomes huge.

 

[BSU kid]

Would AJ Spiker vote for our guy over Priebus? Does he even know, I wonder?

 

[Anti-Neocon]

I think this is a bad idea and only makes those who support the opposition look like they are aliens to their own party. Preibus has way more than the amount needed to win, so he's not going anywhere Let's just be careful not to bring down our guys in the process.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Mat Larson has provided many links to sources on this matter on his youtube video page. Follow this embedded player to the video for those links......

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[eleganz]

I think this is a bad idea and only makes those who support the opposition look like they are aliens to their own party. Preibus has way more than the amount needed to win, so he's not going anywhere Let's just be careful not to bring down our guys in the process.

unelectable, fringe, kook, outside of the mainstream.

That never stopped Ron Paul and it never stopped us.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

here is a bunch of contact info, note it is as of August and some of the states picked different Committeemen/women for after RNC (not most, though.)

ATTENTION credentials contests : email addresses for 145 of the 168 voting members of RNC : http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...sses-for-145-of-the-168-voting-members-of-RNC

there was another thread I am still looking for

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edit, here it is: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-CONTACT-your-national-committeepersons/page3

Unfortunately, the person who posted a link to the spreadsheet containing nat'l com folks email addies no longer works for some reason.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95122650/rnc-members/rnc-members-2012.xls

 

[sailingaway]

Unfortunately, the person who posted a link to the spreadsheet containing nat'l com folks email addies no longer works for some reason.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95122650/rnc-members/rnc-members-2012.xls

I'll try pm'ing them.

 

[sailingaway]

Here were the rules committee members at least, as of August, so there are some from each state: http://www.rlc.org/wordpress/wp-con...CommitteeonRulesOrdeofBusinessContactInfo.pdf

Note this from December, however, he had no challengers then that I recall:

And in a warning shot to any potential challengers, Priebus writes that he has the votes of more than 150 RNC members locked down. Only 85 votes are needed to win the chairmanship.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/politics/R...17681484/-/2p6c3iz/-/index.html#ixzz2HJDTUM00

 

[Anti-Neocon]

unelectable, fringe, kook, outside of the mainstream.

That never stopped Ron Paul and it never stopped us.

It's important not to fall into the same traps we did before. I'm all for going against the establishment when it accomplishes something, but when over 90% of the people who are voting for the chairman are the establishment, this just isn't a winnable cause, and would just increase resistance against the few people we got elected to the committee positions.

 

[sailingaway]

It's important not to fall into the same traps we did before. I'm all for going against the establishment when it accomplishes something, but when over 90% of the people who are voting for the chairman are the establishment, this just isn't a winnable cause, and would just increase resistance against the few people we got elected to the committee positions.

Are 90% really with establishment? I don't know the battle lines here, but if we could make this a battle about Rule 15 with our guy proposing its repeal, .... well the vote on that sounded awfully even. Don't know how that would play in the 'RNC voting membership'

he could propose turning control of state delegation make up and control of rules changes back to the states.

If nothing else it would highlight the issue again and remind people who is on which side.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Don't know how that would play in the 'RNC voting membership'

My guess is they, as a whole, relish the fact of stripping local delegates of their voting rights as we're the small fish in their pond. While we've made some inroads in getting decent people on the RNC, there's surely an old guard up there that sees the grassroots reasserting itself and likes this rule that nips us in the bud. Especially, if we take Reince's word that he has 150 henchmen that's got his back, I bet they also are supporters of this rule. I would've thought there'd be more attention given to this upcoming meeting by more conservative outlets to pressure for a change but haven't seen much and the media is in silent mode to boot.

 

[sailingaway]

My guess is they, as a whole, relish the fact of stripping local delegates of their voting rights as we're the small fish in their pond. While we've made some inroads in getting decent people on the RNC, there's surely an old guard up there that sees the grassroots reasserting itself and likes this rule that nips us in the bud. Especially, if we take Reince's word that he has 150 henchmen that's got his back, I bet they also are supporters of this rule. I would've thought there'd be more attention given to this upcoming meeting by more conservative outlets to pressure for a change but haven't seen much and the media is in silent mode to boot.

But Malkin and redstate and a bunch of others came out against the rule changes big time. IF this could be made about that, we might have more allies.

I don't know the battle lines, as I said.

 

[eleganz]

It's important not to fall into the same traps we did before. I'm all for going against the establishment when it accomplishes something, but when over 90% of the people who are voting for the chairman are the establishment, this just isn't a winnable cause, and would just increase resistance against the few people we got elected to the committee positions.

Traps? What you're proposing IS a trap for ourselves. They already know who we are and they already know what we want.

One thing that I learned from my local county GOP meeting where we had great results is that you don't hide and do back room deals, and run the numbers to win. You run a real campaign, with real candidate, with a real team that believes in their real message.

Why do you think Mark Willis running for chair won't accomplish anything? How do you know Preibus has solid 90% support? Because he said so? lol!!!

Most of these people are just playing along to get a long, there is no other contender so of course they tell the 'leader' what he wants to hear.

How do you know there won't be votes against Preibus if there was a secret vote? It happens all the time.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

How do you know there won't be votes against Preibus if there was a secret vote? It happens all the time.

I hear what you're saying and am maintaining optimism about mounting a solid challenge against Pubus but I wouldn't be surprised if he won't allow a secret vote a la Boehner. However, I am hoping that these at large delegates see what's going on in the base of the party and realize their further support of the status quo could have them in some shit at their next state conventions when activists attempt to pull a coup on them.