Here it comes! Religions not recognizing gay marriage will be hate groups

Elias Graves

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Saw this one coming a mile away. In two years time, Christianity will be illegal.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...to-Gay-Marriage-Endangering-Religious-Liberty

Gay marriage could be back in the Supreme Court in the next two years, particularly to determine whether the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution includes a right to redefine marriage to include homosexual couples. A decision supporting that premise would strike down traditional-marriage laws in all 37 states that have them and forever forbid the American people from voting again on the issue.In 2012, the people of North Carolina exercised their democratic right to amend the North Carolina Constitution. By a result of 61 percent to 39 percent, the voters reaffirmed that marriage is the union of one man and one woman. That simply reinforced the laws already on the books in North Carolina, a state that does not recognize homosexual or polygamous marriage.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is trying to change that through a lawsuit that would silence the voters of North Carolina and force new forms of marriage on that state through judicial fiat. The ACLU currently has a gay-marriage lawsuit underway in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of North Carolina; it is now amending the civil complaint in that lawsuit to argue that the marriage provision of the North Carolina Constitution violates the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (which does not say a word about marriage one way or the other).
The ACLU is trying to create a constitutional right to gay marriage under which the people of the 50 states could no longer vote on the issue or decide it on a state-by-state basis. The ACLU also endorses a constitutional right to polygamy (marriage of three or more persons), which became prominent when then-ACLU President Nadine Strossen debated Justice Antonin Scalia in 2006. But the ACLU is not presenting that argument in this lawsuit, possibly planning to build on a gay-marriage constitutional win to file a follow-up lawsuit to create a right to polygamous marriage.
It is also worth noting that President Obama’s controversial appointee to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)—Chai Feldblum, who has said that whenever religious liberty and gay marriage conflict, gay marriage should always win over religious liberty—has also endorsed a right to marriage of more than two people.
A decision is likely by early next year in the district court, and so by the end of 2014 there could be a decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. This could mean that by 2015 the Supreme Court could yet again be faced with an opportunity to declare that the Federal Constitution—which nowhere mentions marriage—somehow bars the American people from deciding marriage laws in their states, and instead declares that any two (or more?) consenting adults have the right to marry anyone they want.
Those in the new forms of marriage could demand all public, legal, and taxpayer rights for any marriage unit they choose to create. This could pose profound dangers to religious organizations (such as churches) and individuals (especially business owners) who refuse to recognize or participate in same-sex marriage.
Already, this issue is moving again through the court system, where its fate is uncertain.
 
And since the Feds have already recognized it, I'm just waiting for the first catholic army chaplain to refuse to perform a wedding...
 
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Oh, it's Breitbart.

STOP THE GAYS! THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY EVERYTHIIIIING. FIRST THEY'LL COME FOR YOUR HUSBANDS AND WIVES, THEN THEY'LL COME FOR CHRISTIANITY!

Let's forget the fact that a lot of homosexuals are Christians.
 
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Oh, it's Breitbart.

STOP THE GAYS! THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY EVERYTHIIIIING. FIRST THEY'LL COME FOR YOUR HUSBANDS AND WIVES, THEN THEY'LL COME FOR CHRISTIANITY!

Let's forget the fact that a lot of homosexuals are Christians.

I honestly don't care what people do with each other but this whole issue is trumped up to turn turn Christians into terrorists.
 
There is an end. Strike all words "spouse" from federal legislature and insert the word "benefit designee." But everyone doesn't want an end. It is the goal of their lives to "be special." Whether gay or straight. It's in the best interest of either parties to simply strike all federal legislation regarding the matter.

Alt lyrics..apropos........

The government wants you to be special
The government wants you to be high
They throw you down a rope when you're in trouble, baby
Screamin', "Save me"

Then they charge you with the rescue blues
Oh, the rescue blues oh oh

The government wants to see you suffer
They know that you need the pain so much
They throw you up a rope when you're too high to cruise, baby
Lord, You lose lady

Then they charge you with the rescue blues
Oh, the rescue blues oh oh

The government wants to see you fall
That's why they always love when you get high
And everybody knows you need the pain so much, lady
Well, keep in touch, baby

Just don't charge me with your rescue blues
Oh, oh, rescue blues oh oh oh oh

 
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I have seen this coming for some time.I do not mind , easier to draw Militia from my Church once they are labeled so , LOL
 
Oh, it's Breitbart.

STOP THE GAYS! THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY EVERYTHIIIIING. FIRST THEY'LL COME FOR YOUR HUSBANDS AND WIVES, THEN THEY'LL COME FOR CHRISTIANITY!

Let's forget the fact that a lot of homosexuals are Christians.

There are some gay people who really just want to be left alone. I don't agree with their lifestyle, but I respect their right to live how they want.

Then there are the militant homosexualists. Those are the kind of people who march in the gay pride parades, or worse, try to sue Christians who refuse to grant them certain services on conscientious grounds.

They can say what they want, but I don't like them or respect them, and if they try to use the law against Christians, self-defense is justified.

I honestly don't care what people do with each other but this whole issue is trumped up to turn turn Christians into terrorists.


Indeed.

I'm proudly baptist AND libertarian. These fascists can deal with that.
 
@philforpaul-

I totally agree with you, both on making this a state issue and on ultimately making it a private issue.

But I hate the people who want to use what is designed to look like a pro-liberty stance in order to punish people like me that don't actually want to take any legal action against that lifestyle but nonetheless stand morally opposed to it.
 
There are some gay people who really just want to be left alone. I don't agree with their lifestyle, but I respect their right to live how they want.

The majority that want marriage want the same federal benefits as traditional couples do. Do you as a "straight" understand the auromatic benefits "granted" by the Crown for your particular sexual bent?

Then there are the militant homosexualists. Those are the kind of people who march in the gay pride parades, or worse, try to sue Christians who refuse to grant them certain services on conscientious grounds.

Extremists make the most noise in media. At some point individuals and collectives have to stand up.

They can say what they want, but I don't like them or respect them, and if they try to use the law against Christians, self-defense is justified.

And your "defense" of your belief, the defense of traditional marriage benefits leads you to the conclusion that "self-defense" is the course you should take. SMFH.

So you are FOR the Federal government when it is For you? Against it when it is not? You need to change your user name.
 
I consider most organized religious groups as a hate group. When was the last time any religious group stopped a war?
 
I do not know what you mean by this oyarde.

My religion will be named a hate group ,the Pastors will not perform marriages against the will they have . The people try to stay away from govt as is the nature , once that happens they will probably face how intrusive govt is.
 
I honestly don't care what people do with each other but this whole issue is trumped up to turn turn Christians into terrorists.

It will be if Dems have a say, they have no religion but Marxism, they must make you participate in the one they love .
 
I have no opinion on marriage at all , but I have always known if the Feds get involved it will lead to forced participation .Anti Liberty is the only thing they are good at.
 
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This has no basis, there are no laws that force a non-government entity or person to perform a marriage.
 
This has no basis, there are no laws that force a non-government entity or person to perform a marriage.

I suppose you never thought you would have to pay a fine for not having a federally approved health plan ?
 
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Get government out of marriage and it ends this. If you are bold enough to dare.
 
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Get government out of marriage and it ends this. If you are bold enough to dare.

States themselves will never give up all the free revenue they get from the license.Yes , govt has no role in any marriage , but it will continue and expand due to qualification for UnConstitutional govt programs , Social Sec, health ins requirement etc etc etc
 
You have to learn to think like they do if you ever plan to meet them in the middle.They will terrorize you and take everything , all your wealth , Liberty , dignity.....
 
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