Keith and stuff
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If there is going to be state government marriage, it has to be between x and y. Anything else is discrimination.
You have to learn to think like they do if you ever plan to meet them in the middle.They will terrorize you and take everything , all your wealth , Liberty , dignity.....
Gays or the government? I do not choose to meet in the middle. Gays or government would not have any influence on my life accept that both have a vested interested in influencing each and the other. Of the two one is the true cause of contention. Of the two the most direct threat is the government.
I care not about any peoples orientation nor do I have any judgement .
You know, it's interesting to note that when the voters legalized same sex marriage in Maryland in the 2012 election, the law they passed included a protection saying that churches, clergy, and related religious organizations cannot be compelled to perform or recognize or grant services to any marriage they do not agree with based on their religious beliefs. I forget the exact wording but it was extremely clear the intent of the law, and the voters passed it because it makes sense. I think it's a good model that should be followed everywhere since there seems to be such concern over violating religious liberty.
I think it was unnecessary to put that into the Maryland law, because no one has ever successfully sued, say, the Mormon church for refusing to perform a marriage for non-Mormons, or the Catholic church for refusing to marry Jews. Churches have always been free to set their own rules on marriage, and the laws regarding same sex marriage won't change that, even if they don't contain the blatant protections spelled out like in the Maryland law. But if it makes people feel better, I say put it in there.
Until we can get government out of marriage entirely (which I still think won't happen in my lifetime, because most people don't think the way we think), I think doing what they did in Maryland is a good solution to keep everybody playing nice together and make sure no one on either side of the issue is stepping on each others' toes while enjoying their own freedoms.
I consider most organized religious groups as a hate group. When was the last time any religious group stopped a war?
Judaism has always been the primary opponent of war, in every single war Jews have been involved in.
Churches as non-government voluntary associations are allowed to discriminate as they should be.
I honestly don't care what people do with each other but this whole issue is trumped up to turn turn Christians into terrorists.
Not to worry , while your dumbass co worker is outraged by this , they will probably be working on nationalizing your 401k.....
Oh, it's Breitbart.
STOP THE GAYS! THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY EVERYTHIIIIING. FIRST THEY'LL COME FOR YOUR HUSBANDS AND WIVES, THEN THEY'LL COME FOR CHRISTIANITY!
Let's forget the fact that a lot of homosexuals are Christians.