Help Needed: Volunteers Going to Iowa (ChipIn)

[parocks]

Oooo, a riddle. Other than the fact that you would be seemingly gaining a vote by hiring this Iowan, I don't get it.

nope, you got it.

that's the key one.

also Iowans know Iowans.

You can tell them things to do that you can't tell non-Iowans.

"Tell your friends"

 

[RonPaul101.com]

...also Iowans know Iowans.

You can tell them things to do that you can't tell non-Iowans.

"Tell your friends"

This has been a great topic for discussion/debate. I agree with your points in theory, but I think you are meandering from cheap hired help to "supporter" in practice. I don't think there is any reason to believe that a hired hand would tell their friends let alone work with passion, that's what supporters do. I think any remote chance of this happening is easily offset with my own story of driving 14 hours to walk around in 20 degree weather just to ask for their vote. I worked as a consultant for Google a few years back and I never told any of my friends to use them over another search engine, as a matter of fact I still had Yahoo set as my home page on my personal PC, and I was paid a lot more than I would assume a hired campaigner would be. My point being, a job is a job unless your passionate about it you'll just count the hours/dollars and do the job, and voters will notice that attitude and apply the same lack of passion to coming out to vote for Ron Paul in the freezing cold.

This discussion did get me to think more about it, even though I still take the same position.

I'm leaving my first ever + Rep for when I disagreed with someone.

 

[LibertyProsperity_56]

Chipped in $20

I am driving myself and three others in my car from New Jersey to Iowa City, IA on January 1st to help out the Ron Paul 2012 campaign (Anthony Reed's Eastern Iowa Subgroup.) We need $233 for gas (2,000 miles round-trip @ 30 MPG @ $3.50 a gallon) and we need $342 for lodging (2 volunteers per room; so 2 rooms for 3 nights @ $57 per room per night average with taxes.)

We are a group of Ron Paul supporters with experience canvassing and campaigning. I organized this same group for other events in the past and have coordinated this Iowa effort with the official Ron Paul campaign. We will be going door-to-door, hosting rallies, handing out Ron Paul 2012 literature, and turning out voters to the caucuses on January 3rd.

http://ronpaul101.chipin.com/campaigning-in-iowa

If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. Please PM me if you have any questions for me directly.

 

[trey4sports]

Chipped in $20

Welcome to the forum!

 

[european]

Chipped in $20

hahaha awesome! +rep for a nice first post

 

[RonPaul101.com]

Chipped in $20

Thank you and +Rep!!!

 

[european]

Looks like someone just donated $170 so the grand total now is $290.
That means :
1. your transportation costs are covered $233,-
2. 1 room for 1 night is covered $57,- (233+57=290)
3. there is a challenge for 5 more liberty minded RPF members to donate $57,- each, to sponsor 1 room for 1 night

That way you have it fully covered. And I hope those who read this, understand that boots on the ground, will actually get more people to vote when it is most crucial! So getting the four of you in Iowa, will actually increase the amount of votes for Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.

 

[LibertyAirwaves]

Looks like someone just donated $170 so the grand total now is $290.
That means :
1. your transportation costs are covered $233,-
2. 1 room for 1 night is covered $57,- (233+57=290)
3. there is a challenge for 5 more liberty minded RPF members to donate $57,- each, to sponsor 1 room for 1 night

That way you have it fully covered. And I hope those who read this, understand that boots on the ground, will actually get more people to vote when it is most crucial! So getting the four of you in Iowa, will actually increase the amount of votes for Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.

Bump

 

[RonPaul101.com]

Looks like someone just donated $170 so the grand total now is $290.
That means :
1. your transportation costs are covered $233,-
2. 1 room for 1 night is covered $57,- (233+57=290)
3. there is a challenge for 5 more liberty minded RPF members to donate $57,- each, to sponsor 1 room for 1 night

That way you have it fully covered. And I hope those who read this, understand that boots on the ground, will actually get more people to vote when it is most crucial! So getting the four of you in Iowa, will actually increase the amount of votes for Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.

+Rep

 

[european]

bump

Looks like someone just donated $170 so the grand total now is $290.
That means :
1. your transportation costs are covered $233,-
2. 1 room for 1 night is covered $57,- (233+57=290)
3. there is a challenge for 5 more liberty minded RPF members to donate $57,- each, to sponsor 1 room for 1 night

That way you have it fully covered. And I hope those who read this, understand that boots on the ground, will actually get more people to vote when it is most crucial! So getting the four of you in Iowa, will actually increase the amount of votes for Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.

 

[flaversaver]

I just donated $50 to the cause. Make me proud folks. I want to cry at the Ron Paul inauguration.

 

[european]

Looks like someone just donated $170 so the grand total now is $290.
That means :
1. your transportation costs are covered $233,-
2. 1 room for 1 night is covered $57,- (233+57=290)
3. there is a challenge for 5 more liberty minded RPF members to donate $57,- each, to sponsor 1 room for 1 night

That way you have it fully covered. And I hope those who read this, understand that boots on the ground, will actually get more people to vote when it is most crucial! So getting the four of you in Iowa, will actually increase the amount of votes for Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus.

I just donated $50 to the cause. Make me proud folks. I want to cry at the Ron Paul inauguration.

+rep flaversaver

 

[parocks]

This has been a great topic for discussion/debate. I agree with your points in theory, but I think you are meandering from cheap hired help to "supporter" in practice. I don't think there is any reason to believe that a hired hand would tell their friends let alone work with passion, that's what supporters do. I think any remote chance of this happening is easily offset with my own story of driving 14 hours to walk around in 20 degree weather just to ask for their vote. I worked as a consultant for Google a few years back and I never told any of my friends to use them over another search engine, as a matter of fact I still had Yahoo set as my home page on my personal PC, and I was paid a lot more than I would assume a hired campaigner would be. My point being, a job is a job unless your passionate about it you'll just count the hours/dollars and do the job, and voters will notice that attitude and apply the same lack of passion to coming out to vote for Ron Paul in the freezing cold.

This discussion did get me to think more about it, even though I still take the same position.

I'm leaving my first ever + Rep for when I disagreed with someone.

The locals aren't being hired to do the same thing you're going. What you want from them is to tell their friends. That would be their "job". And what we're talking about might not be what the campaign would do. But we are talking about a chipin, which isn't campaign money. That's not the point. I really shouldn't be arguing not to do this. In your particular case, 4 guys. And 4 guys means you can easily not stop. And that's a cost cut right there.

But I'm pointing more closely to the idea of hiring Iowans on the ground, for short periods of time, to get their friends to the caucus. If not that, there really has to be a recognition by someone that the conventional methods of campaigning, which you're driving half way across the country to do, are still going to leave a lot of votes on the table. I have no idea what lists they're working off. Apparently the idea to bombard the "supervoters" with yet more information is thought of as the thing to do.

I would be interested in a poll just of High School Seniors. How many current High School Seniors won't be 18 by Nov 2012? How many High School seniors are getting phone calls from the campaign? How many High School Seniors are on the list the campaign is using? And how do we poll with High School Seniors? I would expect that we're the top candidate with High School students. If we could figure out how many High School Seniors there are, what percentage we would get if they voted, we would probably start thinking about a method, if we haven't already, of getting them to the caucus.

If this is an official campaign thing, great. If this is a purely grassroots thing, great.

 

[speciallyblend]

i believe supporters from around the world can chipin to this correct? or is there a law stopping folks from giving money to americans in need?

 

[european]

i believe supporters from around the world can chipin to this correct? or is there a law stopping folks from giving money to americans in need?

I think anyone can give money to any american.

 

[RonPaul101.com]

i believe supporters from around the world can chipin to this correct? or is there a law stopping folks from giving money to americans in need?

Correct, this funding purposely only goes towards gas money and lodging.

"None of the funds collected will be associated with, nor directed towards, the support a candidate or a political position."

 

[RonPaul101.com]

how much more do you need?

+Rep for getting us to the top!!! We are now fully funded for this project.

 

[european]

hehehe good luck now
Make us proud and if possible also make us cheer!!! (aka win Iowa!)