Help Needed... Obama vs. Paul

[nayjevin]

whats so bad about that?

Nothing at all. Dem kids probably don't remember dems in power, and don't realize Obama means more of the same. They need short and sweet reasons to check into Ron Paul -- and find out what anti-establishment really means (MSM CFR Proj New Am Century etc) all you gotta do is show that Obama says he cares and Ron really cares. Obama will be a puppet because of his lack of experience in foreign relations, his idea that troops should be bigger, his ideology is still nation building. Ron Paul shows why EVERYONE else is WRONG.

This is a good idea.

 

[njandrewg]

In the first or second dem debate, Obama said on camera he wants to increase the military by at least 100k troops. Gee, wonder what those are for? and how does he plan to pay for them? We got a 800b deficit already eh... and 6t debt...

actually the debt is now 8.8 trillion
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

 

[jd603]

Lets call it what it is, an amnesty bill. It would have hurt this country, and even though 70%(80%?)+ of the people didn't want it, both democrats and republicans tried to ram it down our throats. If you turn your back on the American people to satisfy corporate or globalist agendas then I call that treason and both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are guilty of it.

Of course, if you call them on it they'll say "oh but our country NEEDS immigration reform, it's really important" , wrong we need to secure the borders and enforce current laws first, not reward illegal immigrants with trillions in legal citizens tax dollars. Not to mention the bill also paves the way for the SPP (spp.gov aka North American Union) which taking part in is also an act of treason.

Edit: oh and lets not forget McCain who was all for this disgusting attack on America, but I guess he's already getting what he deserves right now.

Obama voted for the immigration reform that just recently failed! AH!

 

[paulitics]

1) Iran war 2) immigration 3) patriot act

 

[Santana28]

immigration...

okay, obviously immigration is important to us - but there are an awful lot of bleeding heart liberals who think we should do NOTHING about it. if i mention something about their immigration stances, what point should be used?

i'm worried about using immigration on this one honestly...

Iran, definitely. Patriot Act, definitely. But i'm not sure how to bring up immigration without it going against us.

 

[kalami]

tell them open borders = loss of sovereignty or loss of democracy or both
http://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2007/06/the-inescapable.html

 

[CJLauderdale4]

Santana, you might also want to look at any bill that expanded the role of government. The limited government concept is Constitutional, and Dems and most Republicans (even though they talk about small government) vote to expand it.

Look at bills that expanded Medicare Prescription drugs, expanded No Child Left Behind, etc., etc. Then put the HUGE price tag next to each one. THIS will draw the reader's attention. Then showing that Ron Paul voted against that garbage...BIG impact!!

 

[Wyurm]

Wait, I guess I'm confused: Obama has positions?

Exactly my thoughts. I still don't get what attracts people to him. Its as if he just stands there and looks pretty to get all the votes.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I just watched CSPAN coverage of Obama giving a speech in Iowa. He stressed he was against the Iraq war back in 2002. He wasn't even a Senator then, was he?

He said we shouldn't have ever gone and we need to leave, albeit not all at one time. He also said he would have found out why they were angry with us, or something like that. Wonder where he got that, eh?

He then turned to talking about how the world needed America and America needed the world.... including our military. That we needed to do something about Darfur, etc. So, basically, he doesn't like what we're doing in Iraq, but he thinks using our military somewhere else is quite fine.

This dude has only been a Senator for 2 years, and now he's running for President??

 

[Avalon]

Obama = socialized healthcare - if your friends like socialism my response is "socialism may give you utopia in the short term, but your grandchildren will be bowing to the Fuhrer" - we need less government intervention, not more.

Holy cow, you say that to people you're trying to convert?

 

[rg17]

Ha! Obama did the opposite he expanded the patriot act, NDAA, killed a lot more people with drone, obamacare, open borders, 18 trillion dollars in dept and so much more!

 

[H. E. Panqui]

...good points, rg17...also, you should acknowledge things would be just about the same (or worse) if the stinking, greasy, republican weasels, mccain and romney, had been $elected...

 

[rg17]

...good points, rg17...also, you should acknowledge things would be just about the same (or worse) if the stinking, greasy, republican weasels, mccain and romney, had been $elected...

Definitely! Romney and McCain would have also been nearly the same!

 

[PaleoPaul]

This dude has only been a Senator for 2 years, and now he's running for President??

...and he got elected...​TWICE!

 

[Rad]

...good points, rg17...also, you should acknowledge things would be just about the same (or worse) if the stinking, greasy, republican weasels, mccain and romney, had been $elected...

We got an Iran deal with Obama. I thought we would have had war with Iran directly with all 3. Obama surprised me.