"He united the states of America" JOHN ADAMS starting Sunday on HBO

I'm reading a biography of Alexander Hamilton right now. It's quite new to me, I had no idea of the powerlessness of the National Government under the Articles of the Confederation. I'm at the part now when the Continental Army is in near open revolt against the Congress because they haven't been paid in years and the Congress has no ability to raise money to pay them.

I think it's pretty safe to say without the Constitutional Convention and the literal coup against the Articles of the Confederation that the several States would have broken apart and gone their separate ways.

I'll be reading many more biographies soon, John Adams of course and the new one on Daniel Boone looks good too.

I wonder what future historians will write about Ron Paul?
And just look now at the current monstrous Leviathan that was spawned from the Federalist's coup.

"By their fruits, ye shall know them"
 
I agree with many of the sentiments that John Adams was not perfect. He did want a strong separation of powers, he saw that as essential. He was for more centralized Government as well. I think most of this stemmed from wanting desperately for the republic to hold together during its initial struggles. He was definitely not for socialism which is what has hi-jacked the formerly known Federalist movement.

his decades of personal development and study, fostering ideas that would be the driving force behind the deceleration of independence. We would not be a country without John Adams. I side more with Jefferson and I think Ron would as well but we have to remember people like Franklin and Jefferson were content to sit on the sidelines during the hard decision for independence. Only after it was clear which way the waters were going did they get on board.
 
Would this show be suitable for a 12 year old? My son is home this week for spring break, and I'm considering watching this with him.

I know a lot of the HBO shows can be overly graphic... how's this one?
 
Im 14 but this movie wasen't that graphic. Two episodes on last night and maybe 2 scenes with blood in it. When there was blood, it was pretty little
 
I watched last night and really enjoyed it. I don't remember much about John Adams from history classes of 30 years ago, so it's nice to learn this stuff again, and learn some of it for the first time. I'd recommend it to anyone and everyone. I can see them showing this in history classes in jr. high or high school when they're covering the founding fathers. I hope the next episodes are also as gripping.
 
Im 14 but this movie wasen't that graphic. Two episodes on last night and maybe 2 scenes with blood in it. When there was blood, it was pretty little

congrats to you for paying attention at such an age! you, and others like you give me hope. :):D:cool:
 
Would this show be suitable for a 12 year old? My son is home this week for spring break, and I'm considering watching this with him.

I know a lot of the HBO shows can be overly graphic... how's this one?

There is a scene where someone is stripped down nude, then tarred and feathered. Other than that, I didn't see anything more graphic.
 
HBO should be commended. I have seen a few documentaries on HBO as of late such as "Why we fight".
 
wow, so far, absolutely awesome!
This is really powerful stuff. I kept on thinking, 'I hope people think of Ron Paul when their watching this', it's like it was made for Paul's benefit.
5- Stars
 
I too watched this last night, thought it was excellent, and have made it mandatory viewing for my 12yo son. Regardless of any violence or blood, it is not gratuitous, but the real struggle. I feel it important that kids of any age see this miniseries. It is important for them to see what was sacrificed to found this nation, and for them to see what it has become, and why we do what we do to take it back.
That said, my son has been canvassing with me since May, so he is already pretty well tuned in.
I am watching it again now.
 
I too watched this last night, thought it was excellent, and have made it mandatory viewing for my 12yo son. Regardless of any violence or blood, it is not gratuitous, but the real struggle. I feel it important that kids of any age see this miniseries. It is important for them to see what was sacrificed to found this nation, and for them to see what it has become, and why we do what we do to take it back.
That said, my son has been canvassing with me since May, so he is already pretty well tuned in.
I am watching it again now.

I do not believe in any kind of censorship. Explain the reasons things happen and then let them watch. The FCC decides whats good for my kids ears and eyes? No thanks. HOMESCHOOL! :P
 
Great episodes so far. Puts a big lump in my throat, like others, not sure why.

I really wish this had come out before Dr. Paul got largely ignored by the media, I think of him often as I view these historical figures come to life...!
 
I'm a Federalist.......which back then would have been an Anti-Federalist.
I'm a Liberal(classical) which today means I'm a Libertarian.

Half the damn battle is language (and the enemies know it)

I still think Our revolution is the greatest story never told...in film.

I want a movie on Sam adams, Patrick Henry, T. Jefferson, Paine
Back when Mel Gibson was still cool I wanted him to play Sam Adams and (with a braveheart-like fire in the belly) say this quote on film:

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us
in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down
and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon
you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

I think I would cry on that one!!!....and then I would storm on WashingtonDC;)
 
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The only thing that makes me suspicious about this miniseries (and I know it's a stupid reason to be wary of it) is that the biography was written by a Skull & Bonesman, David McCullough, and is starring a Skull & Bonesman, Paul Giamatti (don't believe me? Check this link! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bonesmen )


It could be a truly amazing series, but I sure do hope it's not an inaccurate historical whitewash, like "Wilson"
 
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