Hawaii Governor seals Obama's birth certificate records

[freelance]

No, not necessarily. I know it's really hard to understand for those who are not adopted, but for real, the states change these things all the time. For instance, I tried to help my former daughter-in-law get a copy of her birth certificate recently. She was born in Alabama. When she was 12, she was adopted in Iowa. For some completely unknown reason, the Iowa judge decided she was born in Georgia. She has actually never set foot in the state of Georgia. She was not born there. Yet, the state of Georgia issued her an officially stamped birth certificate.

I'm not saying Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, but I am saying it is extremely naive to believe states do not alter these records on a whim. The only way to tell if the information on someone's birth certificate is authentic or not is to get into the vault.

Edit: Well, the reason isn't completely unknown. She had an older sibling who was born in Georgia. We figure it was easier for the judge to just issue new certificates out of the same state regardless of the facts of the actual births.

Even if you're not adopted, your birth certificate can be changed, and often is. Usually, it means nothing. Mine was changed, and I discovered it about 20 years ago when I needed a new, certified copy.

The original birth certificate that I had in my possession had not been amended. When I needed a new certified copy, I noticed that it had been amended. I called the state, and they said that they are often changed after birth (meaning up to a few months after birth) when they receive the final paperwork from the doctor.

Of course when I first saw it, I figured I had been adopted. THAT was an interesting phone call home with me calling my parents liars, etc. LOL!

In my case, it appeared that one of my parent's names was slightly changed. IIRC, it was my mother's middle initial from her maiden name initial to her middle name initial--something trivial like that. ANY change is considered an amendment.

I have no idea what is up with Obama's birth certificate. I find it hard to believe that if everything is in order that they would go to these lengths to quash all investigative efforts, given the constitutional requirements.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

The Komrade is stealing this election. Maybe those New World order people want him for some reaons...perhaps because they want to go into Africa...and the Africans would trust Obama...you know, so they can steal Africa's stuff this go round. Tones

 

[freelance]

The Komrade is stealing this election. Maybe those New World order people want him for some reaons...perhaps because they want to go into Africa...and the Africans would trust Obama...you know, so they can steal Africa's stuff this go round. Tones

Tones, last month I sat next to a mercenary on the airplane. We talked for an hour and a half. He is leaving KBR to go with Dyncorp in January. He was going home for a couple of weeks and then off to intensive training. He's going to Africa. He said that the mission is to rape Africa of all of their natural resources. He also said that the government is broke, so this is a corporate thing. I said, "ALL of their resources, including De Beers?" He said, "De Beers is no match for us." This was one of the strangest conversations I've had in a long time.

 

[Truth Warrior]

The Komrade is stealing this election. Maybe those New World order people want him for some reaons...perhaps because they want to go into Africa...and the Africans would trust Obama...you know, so they can steal Africa's stuff this go round. Tones

Perhaps merely to establish a Constitution breaking precedent to allow additional future FOREIGN born POTUS candidates to run ................... like Arnold, for instance.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well Truth..maybe that too! Hmmm...Lets just elect Ahamadinijad.

i had an epiphany months ago..maybe almost a year ago that Obammy would be put forth to go into Africa for their goods. Russia and China are already down there building infrastructure..and that just won't do ya know??/ interesing info to the poster up above. I guess The Komrade is merely another useful idiot. TONES

 

[Truth Warrior]

Well Truth..maybe that too! Hmmm...Lets just elect Ahamadinijad.

i had an epiphany months ago..maybe almost a year ago that Obammy would be put forth to go into Africa for their goods. Russia and China are already down there building infrastructure..and that just won't do ya know??/ interesing info to the poster up above. I guess The Komrade is merely another useful idiot. TONES

The Western nation's governments have been in major competition for the robbing and plundering of the African resources for centuries now. Kinda like the Spanish in Central and South America did.

S.O.S.<IMHO>

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

The New African Snakes of America! it's da shizzle. tones

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Kenya Sealing records...
Hawaii sealing records...

Anything else governments wants to do to keep the people from knowing the truth?

Lets see... TELECOMS received retroactive immunity from the government via campaign donations. I wonder what the FINANCIAL GAINS or THREATS for KEYNA and HAWAII on all this.

One thing I did fine particular donations:

Lingle, Linda The Honora
Honolulu , HI 96813
State of Hawaii/Governor <==== look at her campaign donations via EARMARKS?

JENKINS, LYNN (R)
House (KS 02)
earmarked via WISH LIST, THE
COLLINS, SUSAN M (R)
Senate - ME
earmarked via WISH LIST, THE
CAPITO, SHELLEY MOORE (R)
House (WV 02)
earmarked via WISH LIST, THE

EARMARKED?

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=HI&last=Lingle&first=Linda

here's the "THE WISH LIST":
http://www.thewishlist.org/

 

[rancher89]

Tones, last month I sat next to a mercenary on the airplane. We talked for an hour and a half. He is leaving KBR to go with Dyncorp in January. He was going home for a couple of weeks and then off to intensive training. He's going to Africa. He said that the mission is to rape Africa of all of their natural resources. He also said that the government is broke, so this is a corporate thing. I said, "ALL of their resources, including De Beers?" He said, "De Beers is no match for us." This was one of the strangest conversations I've had in a long time.

Interesting isn't it, what one will hear on an airplane that you wouldn't hear anywhere else? It's like you have complete immunity--nothing you say can be held against you, almost like a confessional. I had quite the conversation with a nationally known "Beer" girl who was maybe 10-15 years older than you would have expected and didn't look her age at all. She spoke and read 5 languages and was a biblical scholar. THAT was an interesting 2 hours...she did walk away with a "Manifesto!" Pay it forward

 

[Mahkato]

Is anyone else getting annoyed that the word "Hawaii" is autotagged on this forum?

 

[Truth Warrior]

Is anyone else getting annoyed that the word "Hawaii" is autotagged on this forum?

Sorry, there's bigger battles to wage, and fish to fry.<IMHO>

 

[acptulsa]

...and as MGreen pointed out Obama and the Governor are not friends, not even same party.

Kool-Aid. No, not even that. Flavor-Aid.

Do you honestly not see that there are more important things to these power brokers than party? Many, much more important things.

Look at Coke and Pepsi. The bastards advertise for each other just to keep Royal Crown relegated to also-ran status. Both Coke and Pepsi are far, far more interested in convincing you there are only two colas in the whole world worth drinking than in beating each other. Stop and think about it. Look at their history over the last forty years.

Same thing, different product. Wake up. Whenever you hear of a bipartisan effort in Washington, watch your wallet and your ass. Right?

 

[DAFTEK]

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Thank you,


What the hell is wrong with the rest of you, its like saying the government can check your emails because you don't have anything to hide right? You guys will let other people have their liberties thrown in the toilette but not your own? Leave the man alone, and respect his privacy he already released a document of his birth certificate, and as MGreen pointed out Obama and the Governor are not friends, not even same party.

They are (POLITICIANS) PUBLIC officials... FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT allows access to records.

Hamadeh's "ANALOGY of associating this with violation of right to privacy is totally BOGUS is UNWarranted

This is for the Royal Imperial Leader of the TOTALITARIAN FASCIST government of the United States position. Shouldn't there be TRANSPARENCY?

IGNORANCE is BLISS!

Let's believe what the party in QUESTION has provided and ask NO MORE and SEAL EVERYTHING.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Thank you,


What the hell is wrong with the rest of you, its like saying the government can check your emails because you don't have anything to hide right? You guys will let other people have their liberties thrown in the toilette but not your own? Leave the man alone, and respect his privacy he already released a document of his birth certificate, and as MGreen pointed out Obama and the Governor are not friends, not even same party.

Public figures have NO privacy.

If you want ( need ) private then just choose to stay private. Once public is chosen, all bets are off. If your character or integrity, OR lack thereof, is questionable and unable to stand up to public scrutiny, then staying private is the preferable choice.<IMHO>

BTW, public vs private behavior is merely a "made up" false and bogus human behavioral differentiation in the first place.

 

[pepperpete1]

Reason for Obama's trip?

So, how is Grandma doing?

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Kool-Aid. No, not even that. Flavor-Aid.

Do you honestly not see that there are more important things to these power brokers than party? Many, much more important things.

Look at Coke and Pepsi. The bastards advertise for each other just to keep Royal Crown relegated to also-ran status. Both Coke and Pepsi are far, far more interested in convincing you there are only two colas in the whole world worth drinking than in beating each other. Stop and think about it. Look at their history over the last forty years.

Same thing, different product. Wake up. Whenever you hear of a bipartisan effort in Washington, watch your wallet and your ass. Right?

AMEN BROTHA!!!

This is what IGNORANCE Americans KEEPS forgetting. You know the Earmarks and Federal funds are on their way to HAWAII!

Coke and Pepsi... Evil & Evil, just leaves a different sour taste in your mouth

 

[Ninja Homer]

While none of this proves that Obama was born in Kenya, it all builds up suspicion.

Why did the Obama campaign post a fake Hawaii birth certificate? http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate Proven fake beyond a shadow of a doubt: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html

Why did Obama campaign have attorneys try to stall the case until after the election?

Why has Kenya sealed all documents concerning Obama until after the election?

All of this doubt and suspicion can be wiped out if Obama would simply produce his birth certificate.

Even if Obama is a natural born citizen, he would have had to give up his US citizenship to attend public school in Indonesia. If he didn't go through immigration and regain his citizenship when he came back to the US, he may not even currently be a US citizen. Watch this video of the lawyer explaining the case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

McCain has released his birth certificate, why not Obama? Think of it this way... Obama wants to be OUR employee. One of the requirements for this position is being a natural born citizen. Obama should produce evidence that he is a natural born citizen to all of us. If he can't, he doesn't get the job.

Serious question: What happens if Obama wins the election, and then this info is released, and it turns out that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, and is therefore not eligible as POTUS?

Does Biden take the job? Does McCain get it? Does Bush retain office while this is all figured out in a long court battle?

 

[acptulsa]

Serious question: What happens if Obama wins the election, and then this info is released, and it turns out that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, and is therefore not eligible as POTUS?

Does Biden take the job? Does McCain get it? Does Bush retain office while this is all figured out in a long court battle?

Biden, I believe. I think it's covered by the Twentieth Amendment:

Section 3
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Biden would get to choose his own vp.

 

[RevolutionSD]

Strange how the MSM gives Obama a pass on this and many more issues...We're fucked, plain and simple. We will witness first hand the death of the United States. This will surely go down in history as the fall of Rome did.

How is it strange they are giving Obama a pass?

They gave Clinton passes on most things, they gave Bush a pass on nearly everything...the problem is the system, not just one candidate one politician. You're right though, we're fucked.