Hawaii Governor seals Obama's birth certificate records

[Ninja Homer]

Biden, I believe. I think it's covered by the Twentieth Amendment:

Section 3
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Biden would get to choose his own vp.

Thanks, at least I'm relieved that Bush won't retain office.

 

[acptulsa]

Thanks, at least I'm relieved that Bush won't retain office.

UnConstitutional.

Or, to put it another way, over my dead body.

 

[klamath]

If there is any validity to this story for Gods sake wait until after the election! If it comes out now McCain would probably win. Greaaaat!. If this comes out after the election that is exactly what we want. The new Obama administration emboiled in a huge legal battle plus caught in a huge lie right off the bat. GOOD BYE TO THE MANDATE AND PASSAGE OF ALL HIS SOCIALISM. DEADLOCKED GOVERNMENT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS! YEAAAW. HOLDING PATTERN.

 

[acptulsa]

If there is any validity to this story for Gods sake wait until after the election! If it comes out now McCain would probably win. Greaaaat!. If this comes out after the election that is exactly what we want. The new Obama administration emboiled in a huge legal battle plus caught in a huge lie right off the bat. GOOD BYE TO THE MANDATE AND PASSAGE OF ALL HIS SOCIALISM. DEADLOCKED GOVERNMENT FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS! YEAAAW. HOLDING PATTERN.

You may be right. Biden might well be tested by other powermongers from day one. Nothing promotes gridlock like giving those sharks in Congress a bit of the scent of blood.

Unfortunately, if we tease the minorities by electing one then disqualifying him, it could get ugly indeed...

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

You may be right. Biden might well be tested by other powermongers from day one. Nothing promotes gridlock like giving those sharks in Congress a bit of the scent of blood.

Unfortunately, if we tease the minorities by electing one then disqualifying him, it could get ugly indeed...

When Obama is disqualified...LA Riots part Deux!

 

[DAFTEK]

 

[rancher89]

No, we don't want to wait until after the election. What if they, TPTB, decide that what we need to do to solve the issue is a constitutional convention, say to change the rule so that a naturalized citizen can serve as POTUS. (otherwise known as a "con-con" Look it up, it's been done, back in the late 1700's they actually had one to settle the Articles of the Confederation. They tried again with the Equal Rights Amendment, but it didn't happen. Last year or shortly before, there was a rumbling in the GOP about changning the Constitution so that a naturalized citizen could be POTUS, it died a lonely death. That was the GOP--all for it so AHnold could run for POTUS. Sorry I don't have the links, but the worst thing that could happen to us would be that they pulled a constitutional convention on us. They could literally rewrite the whole thing, make the Patriot Act a part of the CONSTITUTION.



That is what I fear will happen with this whole birth certificate mess. It's obvious that there is something to hide, the grandmother remembers him being born in Kenya............there is no emoticon for jumping up and down and pulling one's hair unfortunately.....

 

[RonPaulR3VOLUTION]

Thank you,


What the hell is wrong with the rest of you, its like saying the government can check your emails because you don't have anything to hide right? You guys will let other people have their liberties thrown in the toilette but not your own? Leave the man alone, and respect his privacy he already released a document of his birth certificate, and as MGreen pointed out Obama and the Governor are not friends, not even same party.

“Today, we mark an important milestone on the path to greater government transparency." --Obama

"respect his privacy"
Obama appears to have zero interest in protecting anyone's privacy but his own. Obama: fighting to retain his own privacy while at the same time fighting to destroy almost everyone else's.

'Joe the Plumber' is held to greater public scrutiny than Obama. Something is surely not right here.

I don't see how releasing simple documentation showing you meet the requirements for Presidency is a violation of privacy in the first place. Perhaps someone will be so kind as to explain how it is.

"The purpose of government is to protect the secrecy and the privacy of all individuals, not the secrecy of government." --Ron Paul

Note: I have no stance on Obama's citizenship.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Can we get through one election without such huge scandals?

 

[Matt Collins]

No, we don't want to wait until after the election. What if they, TPTB, decide that what we need to do to solve the issue is a constitutional convention, say to change the rule so that a naturalized citizen can serve as POTUS. (otherwise known as a "con-con"

Would never happen in at least the next few decades.

 

[Matt Collins]

Serious question: What happens if Obama wins the election, and then this info is released, and it turns out that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, and is therefore not eligible as POTUS?

Pelosi would be the President

 

[ItsTime]

Why, just because they are not releasing it? That doesn't mean they have something to hide.

Why don't you let the world see your hard drive? Why don't you let the cop search your car? After all, if you have nothing to hide, why worry?

I realize this is an entirely different situation (guy is running for President, his place of birth has come into question etc), however the same [dis]logic of "they won't show so they must have something to hide" is a complete farce.


Obama should release his birth certificate, if for no other reason than to shut everyone up about it. And by not releasing it it does indeed make him look more and more suspicious at least in the court of public opinion. But he is not guilty because he refuses to release it.

He is applying for a job. Part of the job REQUIREMENTS is that he is a natural born citizen. He is the one that needs to prove he meets those requirements. End of story.

 

[acptulsa]

Pelosi would be the President

WTF? Because of Dubya's term limits? Why would they skip Cheney (not that he doesn't deserve it)? What part of the Twentieth Amendment do you not understand--or did you not read that much of this thread?

Dude--if you're going to answer a question without checking to see if someone already has, at least check your facts.

 

[NewEnd]

Daftek... people like you make me want to puke.

And again, why is this in grassroots central?

 

[Matt Collins]

WTF? Because of Dubya's term limits? Why would they skip Cheney (not that he doesn't deserve it)? What part of the Twentieth Amendment do you not understand--or did you not read that much of this thread?

If that situation were to come up since Obama was ineligible to begin with, then that would nullify the election meaning that Biden didn't win either because Obama could never have legally run. That means Pelosi would be the President. Or at least that's one argument I have read about.

 

[acptulsa]

If that situation were to come up since Obama was ineligible to begin with, then that would nullify the election meaning that Biden didn't win either because Obama could never have legally run. That means Pelosi would be the President. Or at least that's one argument I have read about.

And how do we get Cheney disqualified on the way to Pelosi? Not that it matters one bit. Read Amendment Twenty again.

 

[Matt Collins]

He is applying for a job. Part of the job REQUIREMENTS is that he is a natural born citizen. He is the one that needs to prove he meets those requirements. End of story.

I agree, however there is no legal mechanism for this. The federal government cannot require him to release his birth certificate to the public, unless of course Congress passes a law by that nature. Remember federalism? Well birth certificates are all state-level documents, not federal documents.

So what should happen?

 

[ItsTime]

I agree, however there is no legal mechanism for this. The federal government cannot require him to release his birth certificate to the public, unless of course Congress passes a law by that nature. Remember federalism? Well birth certificates are all state-level documents, not federal documents.

So what should happen?

He should prove he is a natural born citizen by whatever means he needs to. Its not a state issue for you to volunteer the info. And since he chooses to run he should volunteer it.

 

[acptulsa]

So what should happen?

The people, who really don't like these two jackasses, should refuse to vote for either one and find a candidate to get behind...

 

[ItsTime]

The people, who really don't like these two jackasses, should refuse to vote for either one and find a candidate to get behind...

Sadly there are none running this year I can get behind.