Havent been on in a bit. So are we going Rand Paul 2016?

[cajuncocoa]

Correct. A handful of misguided anarchists don't swing elections. I don't think they brought much to the table anyway. For every perceived person that thinks Rand is a "douche" we will gain a wider audience to the tune of 1:10,000. I'd rather take ten thousand people that actually vote, donate, and campaign than having a couple youtube commenters.

It really gets tiresome reading your insults toward Ron Paul supporters all day every day. What exactly is your beef with Rand's Dad anyway?

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

I'm an AnCap and have no problem supporting Rand, so I don't know what people are talking about.

 

[PatriotOne]

I would like to know so i can get started now sooner is better then later.

I am! (Squeezes in to make room aboard the Rand Paul battleship for ya ). Full speed ahead!

 

[PatriotOne]

I'm an AnCap and have no problem supporting Rand, so I don't know what people are talking about.

Bastiat doesn't include you in his "handful of anarchists" statement". Cajun thinks he/she speaks for all of you though.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Bastiat doesn't include you in his "handful of anarchists" statement". Cajun thinks he/she speaks for all of you though.

LOL...you have no clue what cajun thinks. Don't try to speak for me again.

 

[eleganz]

I'm an AnCap and have no problem supporting Rand, so I don't know what people are talking about.

Just gave a general idea of how my local group dynamic works. I know it isn't 100% accurate but I'm willing to bet that a lot of the local groups generally have the same kind of dynamic.

 

[PatriotOne]

LOL...you have no clue what cajun thinks. Don't try to speak for me again.

I will as soon as you don't speak on these boards at all. I see you have stepped up your negativity again. You really need to be scrubbed...you are a positive energy vampire.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Now is the perfect time for all of us to get involved with local Tea Party groups as well and start drilling Rand Paul in their heads, they already have a favorable impression of him.

This is a great idea. There are some very well organized Tea Party sites and groups out there. They are pretty sizable as well. Freedomworks seems to have a decent way to connect with other people. I haven't spent much time looking through it all, but it seems like a nice web based system to connect with people locally in the real world.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

It really gets tiresome reading your insults toward Ron Paul supporters all day every day. What exactly is your beef with Rand's Dad anyway?

If you feel insulted by that comment then you are overly sensitive like Rick Santorum.

 

[tsetsefly]

I would like to know so i can get started now sooner is better then later.

Sooner means getting yourself involved in local GOP and getting into some positions of power at local GOP, this to minimize the shenanigans that will come our way in 2016 primaries

 

[tsetsefly]

The following is from a hardcore Fox watcher Bush lover from a different forum who is only interested in a 'R' win. (Rmoney voter) This is what we're dealing with, and presented for strategy refinements. It's a hell of a tightrope walk.:

There is no doubt Rand is much more appealing to republicans than Ron and if he has to accomplish this by endorsing Romney, then I don't care. All I care about is his voting record.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Bastiat doesn't include you in his "handful of anarchists" statement". Cajun thinks he/she speaks for all of you though.

Precisely. I want the liberty movement to be a big tent as long as we're all pulling in the same direction. It's about addition, not subtraction. I want to add as many into the fold as we can. I just call those out who either sitting idle or pulling opposite of us. The people pulling in the opposite direction will become more clear as the Rand Paul 2016 campaign gets into full swing.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Whatever part of the Liberty movement doesn't support Rand won't matter.... the amount of purists Rand loses will be more than made up for by the legions of NeoCons he'll trick into liking him.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I will as soon as you don't speak on these boards at all. I see you have stepped up your negativity again. You really need to be scrubbed...you are a positive energy vampire.

Keep reporting me. If the mods agree with you, I will take my banishment. Until then, you'll have to put up with me expressing my opinions and asking questions.

 

[PaleoPaul]

Whatever part of the Liberty movement doesn't support Rand won't matter.... the amount of purists Rand loses will be more than made up for by the legions of NeoCons he'll trick into liking him.

BINGO! It's not like the purists were ever going to vote for him anyway.

 

[cajuncocoa]

If you feel insulted by that comment then you are overly sensitive like Rick Santorum.

LOL...you're probably more like Rick Santorum than I could ever be (which is to say I'm nothing like him). I'm not even a member of his political party.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Precisely. I want the liberty movement to be a big tent as long as we're all pulling in the same direction. It's about addition, not subtraction. I want to add as many into the fold as we can. I just call those out who either sitting idle or pulling opposite of us. The people pulling in the opposite direction will become more clear as the Rand Paul 2016 campaign gets into full swing.

Many of the anarcho-types who support Ron believe in spreading ideas over political action - as Ron does. Why do you feel that those who feel as Ron does are pulling in the opposite direction (and what direction would this be, anyway)?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Whatever part of the Liberty movement doesn't support Rand won't matter.... the amount of purists Rand loses will be more than made up for by the legions of NeoCons he'll trick into liking him.

In face to face conversations I don't really bump into many hardcore neocons anymore. The general rank and file though were under the impression that Ron was a pacifistic and wouldn't defend the country. You had to spend hours of education and energy smashing that misinformation, so it was highly inefficient. Rand presents his views in a much more palatable form so resistance will almost be nonexistent on the ground-level.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

BINGO! It's not like the purists were ever going to vote for him anyway.

The other issue I find is a lot of these people just refuse to accept anything that's popular or mainstream. The second it's actually popular or mainstream then the person leading the charge is doing it all wrong and the movement is all wrong. The fact is a lot of these people have been fringe their entire lives and they don't respond to anything else but that.

If we don't stay a tireless minority forever we're somehow turning into evil zombies or something... I think a lot of people here just like being able to argue from the fringe and the second they can't then they automatically assume it's all wrong.

I really didn't like Rand at all 6 months ago but watching the way he played the game from the Romney endorsement on really caused me to reassess his politically savy-ness... Rand is our trojan horse... he's clearly one of us if you actually listen to what he's saying or read his newest book you'll see that. A lot of the people who think Rand is bad just aren't paying attention and can't get past a crappy endorsement (which btw, was clearly for political purposes and Ron himself made a good amount of bad endorsements over the last 60 days).

Clearly he gets it, he's just not going to preach it the way his father did and it's going to cause a lot of people to say he's a phony or a liar or whatever... the truth is he's just fighting the battle a different way... a way I think will actually win.

In 2016 I think our ideas will look even more attractive and Rand will clean up. But I thought Doug Wead nailed it the other day when he said it's going to be on us to accept things like only closing 825 military bases instead of all 900... there are going to be places where he doesn't go all the way when he's campaigning simply because he's trying to get elected.

We're going to have to see past that... he IS the trojan horse.

 

[fisharmor]

[MQUOTE=NoOneButPaul;4727958]Whatever part of the Liberty movement doesn't support Rand won't matter.... the amount of purists Rand loses will be more than made up for by the legions of NeoCons he'll trick into liking him.[/QUOTE]

If that's true, then good for you.
I just hope for your sake that they don't start to develop a conscience.