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Well I am a South Carolinian, I worked for many military contractors, Northrop B2 division(before Grumman). McDonnell Douglas and I just recently almost went to work at that very same Force Protection plant. That however would not change the way I vote. I vote for what is best for the country, not just what is best for my bank account. I can't explain what the other 96% of repugnant voters were thinking. I know that religious fanaticism and blind patriotism plays a major role. It's still my home state though and I am a Ron Paul supporter and don't really appreciate the assumption that we are all stupid hicks, at least 4% of us anyway.LOL
from my experience in South Carolina trying to talk to people, not insult them and try to tell them they're stupid if they don't listen to my advice, they are just totally ill informed on issues. Speaking of which, issues, they are so tied up in stupid divisive issues like religion, having their patriotism questioned, abortion etc. etc. that they just don't pay attention to the real issues
Wearin' out the rubber, my friend.
Join date, May 15 and only 460 posts. I think it's called the art of brevity.
Bosso
The ghouls military experience poll is in the toilet. He has none.
He's a yankee (with a thick NY accent).
It's his first run for POTUS.
He dissed SC by bypassing the state as part of his Fla/Ca strategy.
Rudy is OK with abortion.
Bosso
Yes sir, i agree and included the point in my post. I've met folks in Columbia, Cheraw, Winnsboro, Union, Orangeburg, Bennetsville, etc. They are beautiful people. Their huge textile and tobacco job losses have made it easy to transition into 'other' industries, and they don't want to lose those jobs too.
You're the exception in your demographic, as you point out.
Thank you for your support, my friend.
Bosso
I think this is our problem in SC:
Age of voters in primary from exit polls:
10% age 18-29
23% age 30-44
The exit poll showed that 67 percent of the voters in the Republican SC primary were over the age of 45.
We failed to get out the young vote for some reason in this state.
That's the answer right there as to why ron paul didn't do better.
Let's not make this mistake again.
Age of voters in primary from exit polls:
10% age 18-29
23% age 30-44
The exit poll showed that 67 percent of the voters in the Republican SC primary were over the age of 45.
We failed to get out the young vote for some reason in this state.
That's the answer right there as to why ron paul didn't do better.
Let's not make this mistake again.
Lot's of good responses in this thread.
We need a map on the wall in this war room. We need to look closely at the 22 states in Super Tuesday and target the right people with the right message.
Yes, getting all of Ron's negatives numbers is smart thinking.
We have 100,000 soldiers. They only lack a well defined mission to jump into action.
The press is pissing all over our candidate and us. I don't know about you guys, but I ain't gonna take that shit from nobody.
We have the most money, most troops, most knowledge of the issues, best war room to meet in, an air force, the best plan for economic recovery, the only candidate who will end the wars immediately, the only candidate to do more for VETs, MIAs, POWs who gets the most military personnel contributions, and best of all, the only unimpeachable politician ever.
Let's get the plan for Super Tuesday up and running immediately. Those are the posts I respond to. Numbers. Math don't lie. Actions make stuff happen.
Bosso
We need a map on the wall in this war room. We need to look closely at the 22 states in Super Tuesday and target the right people with the right message.
Yes, getting all of Ron's negatives numbers is smart thinking.
We have 100,000 soldiers. They only lack a well defined mission to jump into action.
The press is pissing all over our candidate and us. I don't know about you guys, but I ain't gonna take that shit from nobody.
We have the most money, most troops, most knowledge of the issues, best war room to meet in, an air force, the best plan for economic recovery, the only candidate who will end the wars immediately, the only candidate to do more for VETs, MIAs, POWs who gets the most military personnel contributions, and best of all, the only unimpeachable politician ever.
Let's get the plan for Super Tuesday up and running immediately. Those are the posts I respond to. Numbers. Math don't lie. Actions make stuff happen.
Bosso
susano
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It's the whole damn country. Mind controlled, dumbed down sheep. Only a REAL campaign, i.e., big media buys and personal appearances can win. Grassroots cannot do it, alone.
We could have won Michigan, but national and Ron Paul never showed up for the party.
The MSM seems to be a problem.
For instance, I was talking a coworker the other day and the subject of politics came up. Where I work is fairly liberal, so when he asked me who I was supporting, I said Ron Paul. His response was, "Isn't he kind of a kook?".
The next twenty minutes was explaining what Ron Paul was all about. Afterwards, he agreed that he definitely wasn't a kook (might possibly support him, but I didn't press the issue). He asked why does everyone think he is kook, to which I replied, "Do you watch FOX News?".
This got a laugh. Being liberal, he was already aware of FOX's "fair and balanced" behavior. He was really surprised to hear though that would be so openly hostile to "one of there own".
There you have it. People don't know him that well, and what they do know has been fed to them by the TV. I'm sure the ads are helping, but nothing is going to replace canvassing and creative marketing at the precinct level. Without the MSM giving us our fair share, this is the only way we can win.
For myself, I'm making sure I can keep my schedule fairly clean so I can be a good precinct leader here in MD. I live in a large middle class development, a fair number military and ex-military. The polling station for my area is within walking distance for most. My plan is first, to at least encourage them to vote. Then, if they are interested, we can discuss candidates. Plus, it will help me get to know the neighbors a bit more.
~X~
For instance, I was talking a coworker the other day and the subject of politics came up. Where I work is fairly liberal, so when he asked me who I was supporting, I said Ron Paul. His response was, "Isn't he kind of a kook?".
The next twenty minutes was explaining what Ron Paul was all about. Afterwards, he agreed that he definitely wasn't a kook (might possibly support him, but I didn't press the issue). He asked why does everyone think he is kook, to which I replied, "Do you watch FOX News?".
This got a laugh. Being liberal, he was already aware of FOX's "fair and balanced" behavior. He was really surprised to hear though that would be so openly hostile to "one of there own".
There you have it. People don't know him that well, and what they do know has been fed to them by the TV. I'm sure the ads are helping, but nothing is going to replace canvassing and creative marketing at the precinct level. Without the MSM giving us our fair share, this is the only way we can win.
For myself, I'm making sure I can keep my schedule fairly clean so I can be a good precinct leader here in MD. I live in a large middle class development, a fair number military and ex-military. The polling station for my area is within walking distance for most. My plan is first, to at least encourage them to vote. Then, if they are interested, we can discuss candidates. Plus, it will help me get to know the neighbors a bit more.
~X~
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Do you have any way to communicate with those at national, or who are responsible for commercials?
A big flaw that I see is that the message is not being communicated properly. Everything should be target specific, too. For instance, I saw in the Florida section where someone said something about an ad that would say that RP wants the troops homw and chasing Al Qaeda is for spies, not troops. Well, I GUARANTEE you, the fear based public will not swallow that. They see millions of muslims coming to get them and they won't get spies taking care of that. Instead, the Florida ad should communicate this:
Bring our troops home, close foreign bases, and RE-OPEN bases that Clinton closed.
Protect America AT HOME.
Increace the Coast Guard budget to patroll all of Florida's ports.
Inspect ALL containers (get the troops on it).
See the difference? The benefits for Florida are enumerated. Everyone in FLA benefits from the USCG (as do all coastal communities). Ports are are highly vulnerable.
Bigger USCG means $$$ for the FLA economy.
Same message, delivered as in how FLA benefits.
Hello Su,
The rest of the country has it's demographic. Ron won second place in Nevada. That's an astounding feat, given the blackout, and proof that the entire country isn't beyond being successfully targeted.
We could not have won Michigan under any circumstances. The numbers told us so. We would not have placed second in Nevada if we spent the resources in Michigan and would have lost in both states had we tried to go against the numbers.
Pick a state in the Super Tuesday lineup and make a case for it.
Bosso
Hello Molly,
This post is what I'm talking about.
You've got the numbers and your post is spot on. Math don't lie. Did they jump ship to Obama? South Carolina is a crossover state. Show me numbers of crossover stats in SC and target a Super Tuesday state that is NOT a crossover state, then spend your energies there getting the young voters out for RP.
We should have good lists somewhere to help you, but you should do the donkey work on this because you get it. And hammer your findings down this forum's throat, because your are on to an issue that will matter.
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Millions of Muslims needing killing?
If that is the case then America does deserve another President OTHER than Dr. Paul.
It all boils down to food on the table, mortgages to pay, benefits upon retirement and when one gets sick. Lose sight of that, and we lose the race.
As the OP said, SC was just protecting their jobs - ergo - McCain.
Yucca Mountain was just protecting their backyard from nukes - ergo - Dr. Paul.
Dr. Paul is such a gentleman, he is seen as a weak leader. We know better, but the sheep don't. That is why the 'Just War' ad is so vital. It benefits the RP campaign in many ways. It COULD have helped in SC.
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Speaking of war economy... do you guys think the Chinese would lend us money to go to war with China? 
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