Has the Liberty Movement become a Bowel Movement?

[RDM]

Ben Swann's Truth in Media Fundraising project is floundering.

Why?

Here we are with only 18 days left, and the Kickstarter Project has not even reached $250,000 of pledges of a goal of $1,250,000. Are we that weak or are we just a bunch of "all talkers and no action"? Hence the poll question.

For a group that has complained about the unfair media and no vehicle to get the truth out, we sure are letting this opportunity slip away.

So if we don't want this Liberty Movement to look like a bowel movement, then lets get this thing funded before the deadline.

The MSM has ignored or falsified too many stories. It is time for the grassroots to stand up and back a true investigative reporter to bring truth to the masses. The MSM has lied about Syria, the economy, drone strikes, Edward Snowden, Michael Hastings, and the list goes on. The liberty movement will not allow the MSM to remain unchecked and unchallenged. We have the chance to take a stand and back Ben Swann's "Liberty Is Rising Truth In Media" project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/439668500/liberty-is-rising-truth-in-media-project-0


This event is being created, to coincide with Ben's birthday, in support of Ben Swann's "Liberty Is Rising Truth In Media" Kickstarter pledge effort. By joining this event you are stating that you will pledge to the "Liberty Is Rising Truth In Media" project on or before July 19th, 2013.
For more information about the Kickstarter event: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/439668500/liberty-is-rising-truth-in-media-project-0

The goal is 20,000 attending the event and pledging to the Kickstarter.
Let's show the MSM what the grassroots can create!
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[Rocco]

What a stupid thread title.

 

[RDM]

What a stupid thread title.

I'm sure it is to those that have not donated.

 

[TaftFan]

I wonder if Ron Paul isn't promoting it because now we know he has his own TV venture?

 

[RDM]

I wonder if Ron Paul isn't promoting it because now we know he has his own TV venture?

He really hasn't to this point and with the news of Ron's new project, that's probably why.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You would think the anti-political approach members would be all over this effort. They're all talk.

 

[RabbitMan]

I've spoken to many people about doing kick-starters. The number one thing they say to avoid is having a huge 'all-or-nothing' projects. The most frequently successful ones use kick-starter for smaller, specific projects.

As soon as I saw that he was trying to raise a million plus all at once, I knew it wouldn't make it, but I still threw in my $10. Sorry Ben!

 

[Barrex]

I wonder if Ron Paul isn't promoting it because now we know he has his own TV venture?

He really hasn't to this point and with the news of Ron's new project, that's probably why.

If Ron got equipment he should/could and probably would give Ben to use it too. This would be mutually beneficial cooperation.

It is known that people on this forum are able to reach Ben Swann and Ron Paul. It is only logical that we put those two in contact and watch behind bushes what will they come up with. They could come to same conclusion let push them to make it sure.

 

[The Free Hornet]

I'm sure it is to those that have not donated.

I don't recall which thread it was, but somebody was trying to drum up money for cause/politician X. Somebody else chimed in that donating to Ben Swann would be a much better use of their money.

I've heard enough of the Ben Swann project and the zealotry is wearing thin.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

You would think the anti-political approach members would be all over this effort. They're all talk.

You think we're made of money?

 

[RDM]

I don't recall which thread it was, but somebody was trying to drum up money for cause/politician X. Somebody else chimed in that donating to Ben Swann would be a much better use of their money.

I've heard enough of the Ben Swann project and the zealotry is wearing thin.

Not sure who chimed in about only donating to Ben Swann. You can donate to Ben Swann for as little as $1. So if someone had another cause/politician to donate to, I don't think a dollar is going to break anyone's bank and both causes get a share of donations.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I donated what I could and will try to drum up a little more before the deadline.

 

[MelissaWV]

I will chime in on the "all or nothing" approach as well. The site certainly seems to talk up the goal, and goes so far as to say that all of the money is needed. There's no plan to do half as many shows if $x are raised instead. There's no talk of doing the most with what's raised.

There is, however, a strange need to scold people for not pledging to this. I have looked at it and personally do not see the value in donating. That's me, personally, and since I'm the one that is in charge of my money, that's how it's going to stay. I have to divert funds to a variety of personal expenses over the summer and fall. I can't see falling short on those goals and telling family and friends that I could not help them because I was helping someone fund their educational political programming efforts.

It would be great if it got funded, but I don't think chastising the same crowd that occasionally has to choose between food and donations in order to scrounge up $100 for the site's namesake(s) is going to be the way to fund it.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You think we're made of money?

If people don't want to go the political route as Ron Paul advised and reform the republican party with liberty supporters and we can't even raise 1/3 of a tiny media project, what exactly are we doing here?

 

[Carlybee]

I had planned to donate before the deadline due to other pressing expenses I have at the moment. Frankly I do not appreciate comments like the title of this thread nor the guilt trips that people keep throwing out there as if it's the members of LF sole duty to fund a kickstarter of over a million dollars. Surely you realize the movement has been splintered and a lot of people have left this site compared to how many were here when Ron Paul was still in the race. It is not the cash cow it once was. So I will donate what I can when I can but I would highly think about changing your approach because it makes me want to say kma. And if you guys thought you were going to raise over a million dollars off an internet forum without bringing in some large donors then I hope you were not Ben's advisers on this. All you are going to do with threads like this trying to blame US for not meeting a lofty goal, then all you are going to do is alienate people even more. This is an extremely immature approach to raising funds.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

I love how a simple kick-starter not reaching its goal characterizes a group of people as weak or just a bunch of "all talkers and no action," as you put it. If you want to try and raise the entire fund yourself and have that satisfaction, then by all means, but don't stand on a soapbox and criticize a movement, and individuals who each have their own lives to live and finances to take care of outside of this forum and certainly besides a kick-starter, just because a quota isn't reached. This isn't the end all be all to anything and everyone here knows that.

 

[truthsaga]

All I know, is everyday I am here it is to be here for my people (no, not just Polish, German, Irish people, all people). I donated money to get people to CPAC, Iowa Caucuses, money bombs, and other events. All I know this is a return on investment that will make ground work here in California easier and more productive by having an Emmy award journalist doing stories on topics of substance. A politicians speech can only go so far.. we need more guys like Ben out there.

How quick are we to forget all the positive fair coverage he put out during Ron Paul's election; what was going on in Maine, the RNC, and other related stories. We contacted him and he stood with us.

Just like anyone else in this Liberty Camp from '07 to now, I am down for my brothers and sisters here and you best believe I am giving my time and resources to help Ben Swann.

"bigotry is the disease of ignorance, of morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. education & free discussion are the antidotes of both."

"our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost."

 

[RDM]

I had planned to donate before the deadline due to other pressing expenses I have at the moment. Frankly I do not appreciate comments like the title of this thread nor the guilt trips that people keep throwing out there as if it's the members of LF sole duty to fund a kickstarter of over a million dollars. Surely you realize the movement has been splintered and a lot of people have left this site compared to how many were here when Ron Paul was still in the race. It is not the cash cow it once was. So I will donate what I can when I can but I would highly think about changing your approach because it makes me want to say kma. And if you guys thought you were going to raise over a million dollars off an internet forum without bringing in some large donors then I hope you were not Ben's advisers on this. All you are going to do with threads like this trying to blame US for not meeting a lofty goal, then all you are going to do is alienate people even more. This is an extremely immature approach to raising funds.

I have noticed. I've also noticed many of those people that are no longer here on this forum used to sabotage many Ron Paul promotions and efforts by other forum members. I'm sure they feel their job is done here and no longer frequent the place.

 

[Carlybee]

I have noticed. I've also noticed many of those people that are no longer here on this forum used to sabotage many Ron Paul promotions and efforts by other forum members. I'm sure they feel their job is done here and no longer frequent the place.

So that gives you the right to try and insult and guilt people by calling them weak and referring to what's left of the movement as a bowel movement? Way to win friends and influence people.

 

[RDM]

So that gives you the right to try and insult and guilt people by calling them weak and referring to what's left of the movement as a bowel movement? Way to win friends and influence people.

Nobody ever said "truth" was pretty or palatable.