Has anyone convinced a war supporter to vote for Ron Paul

Man some people are absolutely obsessed with war and acting like scared little sheep when it comes to the boogeyman terrorists that the government has propped up as the defined enemy of all the people!

It's surreal watching people react to propaganda.
 
I actually disagree with Ron Paul's stance to immediately withdraw troops. I think it leaves a power vacuum. So why do I fully support Ron Paul even though I disagree with this very important topic, because I agree with almost every thing else he says. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the US. He is the only candidate that does the same. For once in my lifetime, we have a candidate that is honest and has integrity and actually does what he says. Even though I disagree on one subject, I can confidently say in this election that I am not voting for the lesser of two evils.
 
Tell them that even if we were justified to go in there because Saddam was evil the war was over when he was captured and all we are doing is welfare for Iraq.
 
Would America be free without a military?
Would there be a United States without War?
What happened to the American Indian?
How do goods and services safely ship across the ocean?
How did International Communications come into place?
When wasn't there war in the world?
Who will stand up for the weak?

I am a veteran and I don't agree with your choice of words, but you have the right to cuss in this country. There are many jobs in the military including mail clerk, doctor, nurse, chaplain, engineer, and thousands of other titles. Most of the military are never even given a weapon. The military is an integral and necessary part of daily living in the United States. A strong America is a free America. The military as a whole can be viewed as a loaded gun. Sitting on a shelf it will do no harm. In the wrong hands it will do plenty. I don't know about you, but most people would want the advantage in a fight, and not a fair fight. Maybe, you should look at the number of American casualties verses the number of Arab casualties. The death toll might support this thinking. I don't want to be the one to have a knife when an intruder breaks into my home with a gun. I also don't want to be the one to have to use violence, but I will defend myself and others with the inability to do so. Please, take the name calling out of your message as it does not speak well of you. I am sure you are a better person than that.
 
I actually disagree with Ron Paul's stance to immediately withdraw troops. I think it leaves a power vacuum. So why do I fully support Ron Paul even though I disagree with this very important topic, because I agree with almost every thing else he says. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the US. He is the only candidate that does the same. For once in my lifetime, we have a candidate that is honest and has integrity and actually does what he says. Even though I disagree on one subject, I can confidently say in this election that I am not voting for the lesser of two evils.

I disagree with him on a few things too. But then again, I think the Constitution needs some updating. I just see the war stance being our biggest hurdle. If not for that, he'd win by a landslide.
 
I've had good luck converting war supporters with the economy. Bring some real numbers into the conversation. Most people don't really understand how it all works, if you can spell it out for them and explan what dire straights we're in, then you can start to win them over.
 
I actually disagree with Ron Paul's stance to immediately withdraw troops. I think it leaves a power vacuum. So why do I fully support Ron Paul even though I disagree with this very important topic, because I agree with almost every thing else he says. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the US. He is the only candidate that does the same. For once in my lifetime, we have a candidate that is honest and has integrity and actually does what he says. Even though I disagree on one subject, I can confidently say in this election that I am not voting for the lesser of two evils.

I believe that as soon as we leave, no matter what we've done before that time, the situation in Iraq will get worse for the Iraqis. There will be a power vacuum, because we're the military power there now. The only way to avoid that is to stay there indefinitely, as McCain has proposed.

The Iraqis need to deal with this themselves, however. They need to be forced to accept responsibility for their own governance or they'll never do it. Quite likely they will elect another strong arm dictator who promises to quell violence in their country, or they'll allow a religious sect to take control. Their society is not one destined for freedom, and there's nothing we can do to make it that way except through setting good example (the only way we've successfully spread democracy anywhere).

Meanwhile, the longer we stay in Iraq, the worse our own problems get. We go broke while the terrorists grow emboldened. We lose international support while the terrorists gain it. Our military wearies while the terrorists recruit more.

The occupation of Iraq is just more fodder to fuel the flames of hatred in the middle east.
 
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