Hannity to ‘Never Trumpers’: If Trump Loses, ‘You Own’ Consequences of Hillary Presidency

[CaptUSA]

Yes, this is where pragmatic thinking trumps emotional knee jerk emotionalism, about not picking the lesser of two evils so we can make ourselves feel better, when it does nothing to really help America.
If Clinton wins, 3 years from now when guns have been restricted and the supreme court has been stacked, perhaps only then will the puritans understand.

Understand what?! That it was your fault for picking the worst possible candidate to run against her?! Understand that, despite what Hannity says, this debacle - just like with McCain and Romney - is a function of the stupidity of the GOP primary voters?!

Hell, we already know that! This has nothing to do with being "pure"; this is about selecting an alternative candidate. You know, one that espouses smaller government and less control. Trump, Romney, and McCain were NOT that candidate. So you get what you paid for. YOU! Not us!

Quit trying to lay your failures at our feet. You folks who were fooled by the con job caused this mess.

 

[TER]

Understand what?! That it was your fault for picking the worst possible candidate to run against her?! Understand that, despite what Hannity says, this debacle - just like with McCain and Romney - is a function of the stupidity of the GOP primary voters?!

Hell, we already know that! This has nothing to do with being "pure"; this is about selecting an alternative candidate. You know, one that espouses smaller government and less control. Trump, Romney, and McCain were NOT that candidate. So you get what you paid for. YOU! Not us!

Quit trying to lay your failures at our feet. You folks who were fooled by the con job caused this mess.

I understand what you are saying. I adopted the mantra in the past that I will pick who I think is best and not who is the lesser of two evils. That is why I am still planning on voting for Castle from the Constitution Party. But that being said, the times are much worse then they were in the past when the Pauls were running. Between the sabre rattling and tensions rising against Russia and China, and the Supreme Court picks in the future, I am starting to see that there are times indeed when one has to pick the lesser of two evils. We make such decisions all the time, for even less important reasons.

I did not vote for Trump in the primary. I could go on and on about the things I don't like about him and cause me to fear him being president. But if it is between him (as unpredictable and authoritarian as he is) and Hillary (who I fear is much more likely to lead us to WW3), I chose him over her. The closer we get to the election and the more I think about the consequences of her being Commander in Chief, the more I am considering holding my nose and pulling the lever for Trump. It certainly is not my ideal pick, but the stakes seem too high for me to put my ideological pride over pragmatic actions that could (albeit in a small way) avert a greater catastrophe.

 

[fedupinmo]

He's coming around?

Like a free rudder in the current...

 

[fedupinmo]

My first response is so what? Trump is even worse.

But really the only people responsible for a Clinton presidency are the people that were nutty enough to support and vote for Trump in the primaries The GOP base nominated the worst candidate in my lifetime so the blame lays squarely on them. They had Paul and Kasich, who both would have mopped the floor with Clinton, and yet they supported the crazy Oompa Loompa.

The only thing worse than Clinton winning though is the knowledge that Trumps supporters tend to be a bunch of conspiracy believing nutters and racist nationalists and they will most likely claim fraud after he gets obliterated in the election. If they would disappear back to where they came from then that would be at least a consolation prize of a Clinton victory but instead we get a double dose of crap heaped on us with their continued presense.

There is no way Kasich could overcome the "opportunity to make history" any more than Mittens or McWasteOfWrinkledSkin could.
The only reason Trump can possibly do it is the combination of celebrity and bombasticly and relentlessly pointing to her flaws.

 

[CaptUSA]

I did not vote for Trump in the primary. I could go on and on about the things I don't like about him and cause me o fear him being president. But if it is between him (as unpredictable and authoritarian as he is) and Hillary (who I fear is much more likely to lead us to WW3), I chose him over her. The closer we get to the election and the more I think about the consequences of her being Commander in Chief, the more I am considering holding my nose and pulling the lever for Trump. It certainly is not my ideal pick, but the stakes seem too high for me to put my ideological pride over pragmatic actions that could (albeit in a small way) avert a greater catastrophe.

And I have stated in other threads that if these people allow Trump to win this election, it's a sign that they want a patsy to blame for the impending chaos. We all know the house of cards that has been built and the bubbles that have been inflated and re-inflated. It's just a matter of time until it collapses under its own weight. The establishment certainly doesn't want to be blamed for that. A Trump win would be an indication that the economic system and geopolitical factors are beyond "patching up". And they have their establishment patsy, with an undeserved anti-establishment label, ready to go.

Listen, the GOP had a chance (repeatedly) to select a small government/more freedom alternative and they refused. There IS no "lesser" of these evils.

 

[Pizzo]

 

[TER]

And I have stated in other threads that if these people allow Trump to win this election, it's a sign that they want a patsy to blame for the impending chaos. We all know the house of cards that has been built and the bubbles that have been inflated and re-inflated. It's just a matter of time until it collapses under its own weight. The establishment certainly doesn't want to be blamed for that. A Trump win would be an indication that the economic system and geopolitical factors are beyond "patching up". And they have their establishment patsy, with an undeserved anti-establishment label, ready to go.

Listen, the GOP had a chance (repeatedly) to select a small government/more freedom alternative and they refused. There IS no "lesser" of these evils.

You make good points, but when I see establishment types like Bill Kristol and others speak rabidly against Trump, it is hard for me not to root for him. Perhaps what you are saying is correct. That this is all an illusion and doesn't make any difference as the decks have already been stacked, but I can't shake the feeling that Clinton becoming President is indeed the greater of both evils and everything should be done to stop it, even if it is not in the way we would have liked or preferred.

 

[EBounding]

 

[angelatc]

how do they keep finding (insisting on) worse candidates ?

I think Romney was a better candidate than McCain only because McCain is a crazy old man who would have used nuclear weapons by now.

 

[adissa]

And I have stated in other threads that if these people allow Trump to win this election, it's a sign that they want a patsy to blame for the impending chaos. We all know the house of cards that has been built and the bubbles that have been inflated and re-inflated. It's just a matter of time until it collapses under its own weight. The establishment certainly doesn't want to be blamed for that. A Trump win would be an indication that the economic system and geopolitical factors are beyond "patching up". And they have their establishment patsy, with an undeserved anti-establishment label, ready to go.

Listen, the GOP had a chance (repeatedly) to select a small government/more freedom alternative and they refused. There IS no "lesser" of these evils.

And if they allow Hillary to win....?

 

[pcosmar]

Yes, this is where pragmatic thinking trumps emotional knee jerk emotionalism, about not picking the lesser of two evils so we can make ourselves feel better, when it does nothing to really help America.
If Clinton wins, 3 years from now when guns have been restricted and the supreme court has been stacked, perhaps only then will the puritans understand.

Yeah right.

and If we had believed that McCain would still be in power,, presiding over the smoking ruin.

All in all Obama has been better. Bad as that is.

Trump is nothing but a loudmouth idiot with lots of money,, and he does not give a shit about anything but Donald Trump.
And good buds with the Clintons.

Following that fool,, is pretty damn foolish.

 

[pcosmar]

I think Romney was a better candidate than McCain only because McCain is a crazy old man who would have used nuclear weapons by now.

Sure,, and Romney Care would be locked in.
and his lawyers would rule the land. The guy got rich selling off this countries assets.

No Thanks.

 

[CaptUSA]

And if they allow Hillary to win....?

It means the game continues. Government will get gradually bigger. Liberty will gradually recede. And they have more tricks up their sleeve to avert the disaster. The status quo. Personally, I don't want to jump out of the frying pan and into the fryer. I have children. I'd rather wait until there's a small government alternative before tipping over the applecart.

 

[CaptUSA]

Yeah right.

and If we had believed that McCain would still be in power,, presiding over the smoking ruin.

All in all Obama has been better. Bad as that is.

Trump is nothing but a loudmouth idiot with lots of money,, and he does not give a $#@! about anything but Donald Trump.
And good buds with the Clintons.

Following that fool,, is pretty damn foolish.

+rep

 

[oyarde]

I think Romney was a better candidate than McCain only because McCain is a crazy old man who would have used nuclear weapons by now.

I agree that Romney is better than McCain

 

[fcreature]

Hannity has lost it this cycle. He couldn't have slobbed over Trump more if he wanted to. It's actually been pathetic and my guess is he faces the consequences after this election cycle.

I'm not even going to get into the dishonesty and ridiculousness of his argument.

Only radio personality left worth listening to is Michael Berry.

 

[TER]

Yeah right.

and If we had believed that McCain would still be in power,, presiding over the smoking ruin.

All in all Obama has been better. Bad as that is.

Trump is nothing but a loudmouth idiot with lots of money,, and he does not give a shit about anything but Donald Trump.
And good buds with the Clintons.

Following that fool,, is pretty damn foolish.

I always said and believed Obama is the less of two evils between him and McCain. But I didn't vote for Obama or follow him.

I believe Trump is less evil than Hillary. Things are much worse in my opinion than 8 years ago, and now I may vote for Trump as a way to prevent Hillary from destroying this nation. That doesn't mean I follow Trump. There is a difference, and even a fool, I think, can understand that.

 

[CaptUSA]

Hannity has lost it this cycle. He couldn't have slobbed over Trump more if he wanted to. It's actually been pathetic and my guess is he faces the consequences after this election cycle.

I'm not even going to get into the dishonesty and ridiculousness of his argument.

Simply projection. He's already trying to get someone else to take the blame for his stupidity. It's what stupid people often do. It's a good thing for him that he's got a job in media instead of an occupation where he'd actually be accountable for his results.

 

[fcreature]

Simply projection. He's already trying to get someone else to take the blame for his stupidity. It's what stupid people often do. It's a good thing for him that he's got a job in media instead of an occupation where he'd actually be accountable for his results.

At this point he's just trying to secure a position in the Trump / Ailes news network after Trump crashes and burns in the general.

 

[angelatc]

I believe Trump is less evil than Hillary. .

I agree with that.