Hamas' Half-baked Attack On Israel Reveals Its Truer Face

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Hamas has conducted what was very clearly a carefully planned assault on the people of Israel, murdering well over 1000 presumably innocent men, women, and children. There is no question that the attack took considerable time, money, and care in its design and the preparations for bringing it to fruition. Given the long history of strife in the area by the usual cast of characters, it is also clear that Hamas had to have been keenly aware of the response they could expect in return for their treachery.

In the wake of the attack, the Israeli hornets' nest was stirred aplenty, and for the past seven days their armed forces have been busily pounding Gaza, resulting in thousands of casualties. In addition, Israel has cut off all electrical power to Gaza, as well as network connectivity, food deliveries, water, and so forth, all these measures being predictable in the extreme. There is no doubt that Hamas knew all this would happen.

How is it then that Hamas, which presumes to speak for the Palestinian people, and whose rhetoric gushes with intmations of their devotion to same, failed to make provisions in anticipation of the Israeli response that was so readily predictable? Why did Hamas fail to ensure there would be plentiful food hoards? Medicine? Water? Electrical power equipment?

If Hamas' cause is so just, so noble, and if "God" supports them, then why do they hide themselves amid the innocent like cowards, virtually guaranteeing widespread injury to the people in whose name they claim to act? Why, if their cause be just, do they make every effort to escape into neighboring nations after having done the deeds they claim as having been righteously taken against the people of Israel?

What Hamas has done and continues to do seems not unlike someone who eagerly engages in sexual activities, yet when there is a child to raise, is nowhere to be found.

Furthermore, to label the Palestinians as in any way being mere and innocent civilians (small children excepted) carries an equally foul stench. In order to be genuinely innocent, they would have to stand in sincere and open disapproval of Hamas' existence. Tolerance of an official policy that says "death to Israel" cannot be reasonably taken as innocent, even in the face of threats to anyone daring to speak out. If a Palestinian disapproves of Hamas, then he should take whatever action he is able to thwart and erode the designs of Hamas. Granted, it may not be possible to do much that is immediately and directly effective, given that we are speaking of a terrorist organization which has shown its eager will to spill blood pursuant to their goals and objectives. But there are things that could be done, nonetheless, such as moving away from the area. How about sharing with Israeli authorities information that might help them take effective action against specific individuals who strive to precipitate blood-soaked mayhem?

Never once have I heard, seen, or read any reference to brave Palestinians risking their skin to help the Israelis defend against the various islamist kooks who incessantly plot against their most hated foes. The silence of so-called "Palestinians" with respect to organizations such as Hamas strongly suggests tolerance at the very least. I will go so far as to say that the likelihood stands that a large number of Palestinians actively support Hamas, even if only morally, though I am confident of the probability that many do more than that. That speaks not a word to innocence.

So if Palestinians are not working against Hamas, knowing what that organization is and what they do, then it becomes quite the stretch to assess them as innocent civilians who are unjustly made to suffer at the hands of the evil Israelis. Nobody wants to be murdered.

No matter how you slice this pie, at best Hamas comes out smelling very badly and looking abominably stupid. Taken more realistically, they are cowards and liars of the lowest order who claim to be fighting a war, because soldiers don't take hostages. These are not soldiers at all, but only craven milksop poltroons hiding behind the skirts of little girls for fear of reaping harsh consequences for their harsh acts. They want a free pass to kill and maim those whom they choose to hate. They want the proverbial free lunch.

I will go out on a short limb and assert that Hamas was not only aware of what would happen in the aftermath of their blood-bath, but that those consequences were in fact the point of the exercise. Mount a bloody assault on innocent people, knowing full well that a certain population was guaranteed to take heavy damage in the wake, while making absolutely no preparations whatsoever to deal with those horrific outcomes such that the worst possible horrors would be realized with thousands of dead and viciously maimed, so that you could then parade the mangled humanity upon the world stage and play the victim. This is precisely the brand of cynicism-soaked rot at which Hamas and other islamist interests are playing, all for the sake of seeing Israel destroyed.

Unless there was indeed some deeply concealed Israeli conspiracy to precipitate this attack in the spirit of a false-flag, only better, then it is abundantly clear that Hamas and the people of Gaza are the single and singular bad actors in this instance. As yet, there has been no evidence presented indicating that Israel committed any act that would justify such an attack, reducing Hamas to the standing of rank murderers and leaving the character and quality of the Palestinians in great question at the very least.

For the record, I write these observations as an indifferent third party who has no pony in this race. My broadest assessment of the players unequivocally indicates that there is plenty of blame to go around, Israel included. I would also note that never once in my entire lifetime have I encountered so much as the most oblique hint from either side that they might actually share in even the least measure of culpability for any act that they had ever committed, strongly suggesting that the problem in question is intractable and that things will not end well for anyone there.

I find the whole situation horrifying and repellent, pitying and despising all at once those who have chosen to embroil themselves in a destructive tantrum that shows no end in sight and whose practical sense leaves everything to be desired. To find this rivalry profitable, as doubtlessly some on both sides do, is distasteful in the extreme, and is worthy of nothing better than our deepest disdain.

Finally, I further note that the Palestinians are religiously bemoaning an absence of help from outside. My view on that, assuming the fact, is that it would seem a very unambiguous message that nobody likes them, perhaps because their problems are mostly all self-inflicted. Some of the Muslim entities are paying lip service to the Palestinian plight, yet none of them to my knowledge have opened their borders to welcome refugees, or their wallets to provide the basics of life for the displaced and injured. Where is the material support from a Muslim world that seems quite fond of boasting the virtues of Islamic generosity and charity? Thus far, I see none in evidence, but let us hope it shall be forthcoming, and forthwith.

What I see from the Palestinians is a load of cry-babying as they peddle arguments that do not stand up even to comparatively casual scrutiny. They tacitly support a raft of murderous lunatics, and then cry and moan when those whom they have brought to harm understandably retaliate, all the while expecting the world to fall at their feet, kowtowing. This is not likely to serve them well.

As the world descends ever further into madness, I can but bid you all well and offer my prayers for your wellbeing in these times where the lunatics are running the asylum. While I recognize the futility in doing so, I also hope the people of Israel and Palestine meet with success in finding mutually beneficial solutions that do not involve genocide.


Until next time, please accept my best wishes.
 
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It's basically a death sentence to openly oppose Hamas when you are locked in a prison with them and have no way to escape them.
 
Furthermore, to label the Palestinians as in any way being mere and innocent civilians (small children excepted) carries an equally foul stench. In order to be genuinely innocent, they would have to stand in sincere and open disapproval of Hamas' existence. Tolerance of an official policy that says "death to Israel" cannot be reasonably taken as innocent, even in the face of threats to anyone daring to speak out. If a Palestinian disapproves of Hamas, then he should take whatever action he is able to thwart and erode the designs of Hamas. Granted, it may not be possible to do much that is immediately and directly effective, given that we are speaking of a terrorist organization which has shown its eager will to spill blood pursuant to their goals and objectives. But there are things that could be done, nonetheless, such as moving away from the area. How about sharing with Israeli authorities information that might help them take effective action against specific individuals who strive to precipitate blood-soaked mayhem?
Aren't we all guilty of the same and worse than what you accuse Palestinians of?

Aren't we all hypocrites? Paying taxes to a terrorist state that murders around the globe.
Why don't you stand up to Uncle Sam?

And proposing (demanding even) that Palestinians snitch on Hamas to the Israeli authorities that have murdered more Palestinians than Hamas murdered Jews.
Not even CNN or BBC will tell such a tale.

So now the Hamas terrorists killing innocent children are savage beasts.
While the Israeli soldiers that bomb civilians and cut them off from food, water and energy, are heroes fighting against terrorists?!?

I'm afraid that I don't follow this reasoning...
 
Aren't we all guilty of the same and worse than what you accuse Palestinians of?

Do recall I wrote that there is plenty of blame to go around, and I meant it broadly, even if also especially in the case in point.

Aren't we all hypocrites?

In one way or another, yes. But let us not commit the error of making all such sins equivalent. For example, all crime is based in hypocrisy, but stealing a pack of chewing gum from the local bodega is not quite the same as parachuting into someone's living room and murdering an entire family.

Paying taxes to a terrorist state that murders around the globe.

Your point is well taken, but not relevant to the specific issue at hand. Calling out a given instance of horrific criminal sweep is not perforce finger wagging. I made every effort not to do that. Perhaps I have failed.

Why don't you stand up to Uncle Sam?

I do. I openly defy the false authority of the state. I do what I am able to thwart them. In the past when I was making what some would call "real money", I used the tax codes to avoid paying taxes on what I earned. In 12 years I paid a grand total of $1500.00 on a few million dollars earned (not income) for my engineering/business services, and this was done dead-center of the tax code. So yes, I do what I am able.

And proposing (demanding even) that Palestinians snitch on Hamas to the Israeli authorities that have murdered more Palestinians than Hamas murdered Jews.
Not even CNN or BBC will tell such a tale.

I pointed out choices; they may not be the ones they want, but that's just tough. It's a harsh world and if we expect it to be fair, we expect that which will never be. I pointed out the abundant opportunities present for the self-aggrandizing Muslim "community" to render aid. Thus far I've heard nothing on that front. Bullshitters and hypocrites. Welcome to humanity.

So now the Hamas terrorists killing innocent children are savage beasts.

Precisely so. Do you see some good there that I have missed?

While the Israeli soldiers that bomb civilians and cut them off from food, water and energy, are heroes fighting against terrorists?!?

In this specific case, and until evidence arises and proves some particularly evil guilt on their part, yes. Barring such evidence, let us remain focused on the fact of who kicked off this latest round of atrocity. Hint: it was not Israel. When it is proven otherwise, you can be certain my tune will change fundamentally.

You appear to be suggesting that Israel should continue to provide the manifold means of feeding and supporting the lives of those who are trying to kill them. Would you arm the man you know will try to murder you at his first opportunity? Would you nourish and support his life?

I'm afraid that I don't follow this reasoning...

I could be wrong, but you seem to be suffering the delusions of left-leaning assumptions about how the world works, however mildly. Until you clear that condition, you will likely continue to misapprehend the significance of such events in the ways you have expressed here.
 
Barring such evidence, let us remain focused on the fact of who kicked off this latest round of atrocity.

Barring evidence, how will we ever know who kicked all this off?

Are we to take the word of the same people who said Sadam Hussein had something--anything--to do with 9/11/01?
 
It's basically a death sentence to openly oppose Hamas when you are locked in a prison with them and have no way to escape them.

I do not dispute that. Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hardplace.

Do note that the people of Egypt have rejected those jokers. Also note that the Islamist movement as we know it originated in Egypt (1947, Sayed Kotb). That it has not been excised from Gaza speaks at least in some measure to the acceptance of Hamas by the people. Israel has been generous enough to allow Gaza to govern itself. We see how effectively they have done so.
 
Barring evidence, how will we ever know who kicked all this off?

Thus far, and it may change in time, the evidence points convincingly to Hamas.

Are we to take the word of the same people who said Sadam Hussein had something--anything--to do with 9/11/01?

In the absence of a clear reason to do otherwise, yes, even if only provisionally. We can afford that. When evidence comes forth to alter one's views with good reason, then I am 100% on board with changing views.

Also note how the left media are all busy polishing the Palestinian knob and either condemning Israel, or remaining silent about that which they have suffered.
 
I do not dispute that. Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hardplace.

Do note that the people of Egypt have rejected those jokers. Also note that the Islamist movement as we know it originated in Egypt (1947, Sayed Kotb). That it has not been excised from Gaza speaks at least in some measure to the acceptance of Hamas by the people. Israel has been generous enough to allow Gaza to govern itself. We see how effectively they have done so.

Egypt doesn't keep innocent people behind walls so they can not leave.
 
Egypt doesn't keep innocent people behind walls so they can not leave.

Egypt doesn't have two million+ potential murderers plotting their destruction or supporting those who do.

Do bear in mind that it is nearly impossible to tell the terrorists from the non-terrorists. Hamas is hiding amid the civilians. They are cowards. The people of Gaza are suffering for their tolerance of Hamas' presence. They could have asked Israel for help. Do correct me if I'm mistaken, but I've yet to see such a request from Gazan authorites. I also suspect that that ship has sailed.
 
Do you mean to suggest that the attack is an Israeli false-flag equivalent...

It's certainly possible, is it not? I have no intention of dismissing the possibility, and supporting WWIII without even investigating it.

...precipitated with the objective of shielding Biden?

Biden? Is he really the only motivation you can imagine for these people? Would people interested in shielding an individual put him on public display so his senile dementia can become an international joke?

Sure, dude. They're rebuilding the temple, causing famine, and poisoning people to amuse the codger with Alzheimer's. What other motivation could they possibly have? I mean, American Republicans can't see their hand before their face because they're ate up with pedo man bad. But do you suppose Israel could have its own problems maintaining its socialist militaristic police state...?:rolleyes:

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Where was Israel's much-vaunted military, that it couldn't arrive at a hot spot on a land mass the size of New Jersey for six hours? That's the kind of question I like to have an answer to before I jump on any WWIII bandwagons.

A half-assed attack and a half-assed response, or at least a very pregnant pause before it began. It raises my suspicions. Why shouldn't it?

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I don't care about Hamas' truer face or its falser face. I want to see the face of the person who supplied them with their M-4s. You don't want to know?
 
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And I'm certainly not interested in dying to help a man named Bibi avoid a no confidence vote. I have no confidence in him myself.
 
Egypt doesn't have two million+ potential murderers plotting their destruction or supporting those who do.

Do bear in mind that it is nearly impossible to tell the terrorists from the non-terrorists. Hamas is hiding amid the civilians. They are cowards. The people of Gaza are suffering for their tolerance of Hamas' presence. They could have asked Israel for help. Do correct me if I'm mistaken, but I've yet to see such a request from Gazan authorites. I also suspect that that ship has sailed.

Hamas IS the Gazan athorities. See the problem?
 
While the Israeli soldiers that bomb civilians and cut them off from food, water and energy, are heroes fighting against terrorists?!?
In this specific case, and until evidence arises and proves some particularly evil guilt on their part, yes. Barring such evidence, let us remain focused on the fact of who kicked off this latest round of atrocity. Hint: it was not Israel. When it is proven otherwise, you can be certain my tune will change fundamentally.

You appear to be suggesting that Israel should continue to provide the manifold means of feeding and supporting the lives of those who are trying to kill them. Would you arm the man you know will try to murder you at his first opportunity? Would you nourish and support his life?
Do you perhaps hate Arab Muslims?
Or is there another explanation for your support for genocide on these Palestinians that have already been locked un in the open prison Gaza strip that is bombed by the Israeli army ferquently?!?

You are arguing that Israel has the "right" to murder and starve innocent Palestinians. Because...
Hamas doesn't have the right to murder innocent Israelis.
And Palestinians have the obligation to snitch on Hamas.

And this kind of reasoning doesn't apply to you because you legally haven't been paying taxes.
You haven't really done anything to prevent the murders and torture by the US army, intelligence agencies, and ... medical industrial complex have you? Good luck reporting on these mass murdering terrorists!

I could use your kind of reasoning to argue that Americans have the obligation to snitch on right wing Libertarian extremists, with these horrible yellow "Don't thread on me" posters, and having guns and ammunition stashed in their house...
 
No offense Osan, but I remember that you were all caught up in the butthurt for Ukraine.

That turned out not to be such a great thing, now was it?

My advice would be to curb your butthurt for Israel and the "40 beheaded babies".

We've all be victims of supporting the current thing at one point or another.

We should be getting smarter and apply more critical thinking.

Or else we'll be "fighting them over there before we have to fight them here" all over again.
 
It's certainly possible, is it not?

Of course it is. We are, after all, talking about humans.

But possibility does not imply the fact.

I have no intention of dismissing the possibility, and supporting WWIII without even investigating it.

No argument from me.


Biden? Is he really the only motivation you can imagine for these people?

Recall your own words, above. Let no stone be left unturned.

Would people interested in shielding an individual put him on public display so his senile dementia can become an international joke?

One would think not, all else equal. All else, however, isn't quite equal these days.

One could ask the same questions about the rise of the idiocies of woke, "trans", and so on down a considerable list of items no rational man would expect to arise as they have.
Sure, dude. They're rebuilding the temple, causing famine, and poisoning people to amuse the codger with Alzheimer's. What other motivation could they possibly have? I mean, American Republicans can't see their hand before their face because they're ate up with pedo man bad. But do you suppose Israel could have its own problems

Your apparent sarcasm aside, you are contradicting yourself by dismissing out of hand something I'd not asserted as being the case in any event.


A half-assed attack and a half-assed response, or at least a very pregnant pause before it began. It raises my suspicions. Why shouldn't it?

Human politics should raise everyone's suspicions at all times, regardless of circumstance.

I don't care about Hamas' truer face or its falser face. I want to see the face of the person who supplied them with their M-4s. You don't want to know?

You seem mighty wound up about something, but I can tell you for sure it's not me. You're busily drawing all sorts of invalid inferences based on things I've neither stated nor implied.

So what's really eating you?
 
No offense Osan, but I remember that you were all caught up in the butthurt for Ukraine.

I was? Not sure of your precise meaning.

That turned out not to be such a great thing, now was it?

Never said it was. At the outset of Ukraine, it seemed Russia acted without basis. I have since become aware of relevant factors that leave Russia looking less the sole bad actor.

My advice would be to curb your butthurt for Israel and the "40 beheaded babies".

Butthurt? Do I really strike you as the butthurt type?

I'm beginning to suspect that people are too busy reading their own minds into my words. Text is a tough medium and perhaps I've failed this time around.

We should be getting smarter and apply more critical thinking.

Or else we'll be "fighting them over there before we have to fight them here" all over again.

Oh my thinking is plenty critical, and nowhere in what I've written can anyone reasonably infer that I'd support American boots on Israeli soil.

I don't give a shit if the parties in question wipe each other from the earth, though I acknowledge how horrible it all is. Whoopee. I was speaking mainly in reaction to all the sucking of the Palestinian willie by those on the left, making them out as the only victims. They're all assholes, but in this instance it so far appears Israel isn't the bad guy. Not sure what is so difficult about this for people.
 
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