Hamas attacks Israel

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I'll be happy to disagree with you my friend, that's what makes life interesting after all.

This is much bigger. Iran is the driving force behind this in my imagination (the Palestinians are easy cannon fodder). Iran and Russia need each other. China is the laughing party in the back. Similarly, North Korea is likely delivering weapons to Russia and South Korea is probably shipping arms to the US, which is shipping weapons to Ukraine (Just not the exact ones SK gave). Then I read this week that Wagner is fighting Ukranian special forces in Sudan. So we have 3 proxy wars going on.

In these wars the supporting parties are either of the BRICS or NATO persuasion. Although Turkey seems to be a bit in the middle here. As may other countries be, but never in history is anything truly straight forward.

But this is the start of WWIII. Tensions are ramping up and sides are being chosen. I truly hope I am wrong and I hope even more nobody touches the nukes. Please laugh at this in 10 years if I am wrong.

Oh I understand, I really do.

My take is that one more major proxy war and we, the USA, are done for.

Which explains why the Marxists in government are all for it.

We're coming up on 40 trillion in debt, debt service is the largest fedgov expenditure right now, million and millions of foreign invaders have swarmed across our undefended borders with no idea of who these people are, where they have come from or what their motives are, the SPR is empty and this current admin of traitors has crippled domestic energy, steel, coal, and heavy manufacturing, all the things needed to win a long term conflict with major world powers.

We can't afford it, we're militarily crippled, economically hollowed out, have years of work to regain energy independence again, and have a population that wouldn't lift a finger to defend the country anyway.

To stick our noses in this, in addition to Russia/Ukraine, in addition to China/Taiwan/Hong Kong (That's the real enemy here, Communist China that launched a bioweapon against us that has killed and sickened millions of US citizens), in addition to the million of other "hot spots" we have our stupid snouts into, one more will destroy us.

Both of the combatants have taken it into their heads to destroy Western Civilization on top of everything else.

Schlomo and Muhammad can duke it out by themselves.

Not my circus, not my monkeys.

And I know that sounds harsh, but these are harsh times...the future of my nation and my posterity is now directly threatened.

Bring the troops home, close the border, build the wall, enact massive change in monetary, trade, tariff and tax policy to encourage to the maximum amount possible, domestic production of essential goods and services.

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It has nothing to do with "dey took our jerbs".

It has to do with remaining an independent nation and a free people.

Trump Vows U.S. Tariffs on All Foreign Imports to Protect American Jobs

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/10/trump-tariffs-american-jobs-new-hampshire/

JOHN BINDER 10 Oct 2023

Former President Donald Trump, the Republican presidential primary front-runner, is promising to apply across-the-board tariffs on all foreign imports to protect Americans’ jobs and wages.

During a campaign speech in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire, Trump told Republican primary voters that, as president, he would impose United States tariffs on all foreign imports and get Congress to finally pass former Rep. Sean Duffy’s (R-WI) Reciprocal Trade Act.

“To protect New Hampshire workers and families, I will impose an across-the-board tariff on foreign-made goods,” Trump said:

I will also pass the Trump Reciprocal Trade Act. If China or any other country makes us pay a 100 or 200 percent tariff, we will make them pay a reciprocal tariff of 100 or 200 percent right back. And as taxes on foreign countries go up, taxes on American workers, families, and small businesses will come down, and down dramatically. [Emphasis added]

In August, Trump suggested he would impose 10 percent tariffs on all foreign imports — a policy blasted by President Joe Biden.

Trump’s economic nationalist agenda is significant as it sets his campaign apart from the corporate special interests that are ingrained in the Republican Party.

In 2019, for instance, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce fought to ensure the Reciprocal Trade Act was never introduced in Congress. At the time, polls showed that conservatives backed reciprocal tariffs on foreign imports by more than 90 percent.

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The Claim and Report that claims Hamas murdered babies was quickly taken up by Liz Cheney.

Liz Cheney
Hamas murdered babies. They raped and murdered women. They slaughtered grandmothers and posted the murders to social media.

Hamas must be destroyed, along with their terrorist masters in Tehran.
There is no moral equivalence here. America stands with Israel.
 

Dead babies is always an effective war propaganda tool. It’s in big use today, as the claim is that all of the babies had their heads cut off in one kibbutz. Is it true? We may never know.

As they tell the story on Fox, it gets worse with every telling. Just now, it was 40 beheaded babies. The women on Outnumbered are losing it. It doesn’t look like they have a male on today.

At least 40 babies, some beheaded, found by Israel soldiers in Hamas-attacked village

Israel’s military has discovered unspeakable horrors in an Israeli community that was attacked by Hamas on Saturday, including dozens of dead babies, some with of their heads chopped off, Israeli media reported.

According to local Israeli outlet i24News, Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers moved into Kfar Aza, the one of the communities Hamas terrorists invaded early Saturday morning, and discovered about 40 dead babies, some decapitated — highlighting the brutality of the invading forces.

In World War One, stories of the Hun nailing babies to the doors of churches were used to gin up outrage, silence critics, and boost recruitment numbers.

The stories turned out to be completely bogus.

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In World War One, stories of the Hun nailing babies to the doors of churches were used to gin up outrage, silence critics, and boost recruitment numbers.

The stories turned out to be completely bogus.

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Today, we are witnessing the creation of atrocity propaganda in real-time.

What is atrocity propaganda, and how has it been used to win support for war? A thread:

 
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2/12: An atrocity tale is designed to shock a mass audience by showing a violation of a fundamental cultural value which authorises force to stop the perpetrator.

They are directed at groups rather than individuals. The ultimate goal is to dehumanise an enemy.

 
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3/12: One of the earliest examples of atrocity propaganda was during the Irish rebellion of 1641.

Reports were sent to England of massacres of the innocent by the rebels, and there were later used to justify Cromwell's slaughter of captured Irish rebels.

 
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4/12: The most graphic accounts were published in the English press. Newspapers fabricated graphic accounts of babies being ripped from pregnant women.

These reports especially incited the English public against the Irish.

 
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5/12 Atrocity propaganda in 1641 vs. 2023

 
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6/12: With the spread of communications technology in the 20th Century, atrocity propaganda became more important for garnering support for war. Some of the worst examples came in WW1.

British propaganda, backed by the press, portrayed the Germans as barbaric aggressors

 
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7/12: British media reported stories of the Germans bayoneting Belgian babies and cutting off their hands.

Reports came from Belgium of giant German "corpse factories", where dead bodies were harvested to be turned into candles, lubricants, and boot wax.

 
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8/12: One of the worst examples of atrocity propaganda is the so-called Nayirah testimony.

In the run up to the Gulf War, A 15 year-old Kuwaiti girl gave testimony to US Congress about the horrors of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, most notably babies being pulled from incubators.

 
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9/12: Nayirah’s testimony was rebroadcast across the country and marked a turning point in public opinion on going to war with Iraq.

President Bush repeatedly cited her claims to justify the necessity of the war.

 
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10/12: It turned out Nayirah was the daughter of Kuwait's ambassador to the US.

Her testimony was organised as part of a 'Citizens for a Free Kuwait' public relations campaign.

This was itself was a front-group, created by an American PR firm hired by the Kuwaiti government.

 
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11/12: You may notice a trend with these atrocity tales: children as the subject of violence.

This makes sense. Regardless of the intricacies of a conflict, if one side is slaughtering children, they are obviously irredeemably evil. Who could defend baby killers?

 
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12/12: Today, we may be seeing the creation of atrocity propaganda in real time, this time through the medium of social media.

History should remind us to not be guided by emotion, and treat all claims which direct us toward demands for war with a good degree of skepticism.

 
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The Israel-Gaza War & US Policy Toward It | SYSTEM UPDATE #158
https://rumble.com/v3o4851-system-update-158.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 09 October 2023 @ 7:00 PM EDT}


CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #158:

Israel-Gaza War: The Urgent Need for Rational—Not Emotional—Responses | SYSTEM UPDATE
https://rumble.com/v3oe7zh-israel-g...-rationalnot-emotionalresponses-system-u.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 10 October 2023}


 
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Today, we are witnessing the creation of atrocity propaganda in real-time.

What is atrocity propaganda, and how has it been used to win support for war? A thread:

 
ntQ0DmR.jpg

2/12: An atrocity tale is designed to shock a mass audience by showing a violation of a fundamental cultural value which authorises force to stop the perpetrator.

They are directed at groups rather than individuals. The ultimate goal is to dehumanise an enemy.

 
RdVuxMu.png

3/12: One of the earliest examples of atrocity propaganda was during the Irish rebellion of 1641.

Reports were sent to England of massacres of the innocent by the rebels, and there were later used to justify Cromwell's slaughter of captured Irish rebels.

 
bfVIImo.png


AeQRZ8y.jpg

4/12: The most graphic accounts were published in the English press. Newspapers fabricated graphic accounts of babies being ripped from pregnant women.

These reports especially incited the English public against the Irish.

 
guPE7Sp.png


rQIJL1u.png

5/12 Atrocity propaganda in 1641 vs. 2023

 
XxwJFs8.png


mB1Lt7S.jpg

6/12: With the spread of communications technology in the 20th Century, atrocity propaganda became more important for garnering support for war. Some of the worst examples came in WW1.

British propaganda, backed by the press, portrayed the Germans as barbaric aggressors

 
mZSHreB.png

7/12: British media reported stories of the Germans bayoneting Belgian babies and cutting off their hands.

Reports came from Belgium of giant German "corpse factories", where dead bodies were harvested to be turned into candles, lubricants, and boot wax.

 
mTdLPup.png


WtXX7ZM.png


bxogzB6.jpg


eOlS1NT.jpg

8/12: One of the worst examples of atrocity propaganda is the so-called Nayirah testimony.

In the run up to the Gulf War, A 15 year-old Kuwaiti girl gave testimony to US Congress about the horrors of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, most notably babies being pulled from incubators.

 
aVvtCcf.png


dNlPKeS.jpg

9/12: Nayirah’s testimony was rebroadcast across the country and marked a turning point in public opinion on going to war with Iraq.

President Bush repeatedly cited her claims to justify the necessity of the war.

 
HvdgNCX.png

10/12: It turned out Nayirah was the daughter of Kuwait's ambassador to the US.

Her testimony was organised as part of a 'Citizens for a Free Kuwait' public relations campaign.

This was itself was a front-group, created by an American PR firm hired by the Kuwaiti government.

 
4X0FQfd.jpg


RlvHjvo.jpg

11/12: You may notice a trend with these atrocity tales: children as the subject of violence.

This makes sense. Regardless of the intricacies of a conflict, if one side is slaughtering children, they are obviously irredeemably evil. Who could defend baby killers?

 
xnuTb0m.png

12/12: Today, we may be seeing the creation of atrocity propaganda in real time, this time through the medium of social media.

History should remind us to not be guided by emotion, and treat all claims which direct us toward demands for war with a good degree of skepticism.

 
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C6jkHfu.png


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The worst part of all this when the Israeli forces decide to ground offensive into Gaza and Palestinian civilians and children get killed.

Unfortunately the Mainstream Media will not bother reporting it.
 
I stand with Israel and I wish the best for all the non-involved in Gaza. I have some friends in Israel and I have some Jewish friends. I don't really think we need to help them with money and weapons, I'm quite sure they have enough. But I think some sympathy would be appropriate. Similarly I would offer sympathy to the innocents in Gaza who do not have a good time ahead of them.

Certainly. The (real, actual) killings by the Hamas terrorists are horrendous and unforgiveable. Likewise the loss of innocent life on both sides will be terrible and tragic.

One point of contention, apparently they do not have enough money. Every neocon-neolib-MIC shill has called for more money for Israel and Ukraine.

I've seen pictures. After killing a couple hundred people at a festival, would you really have major doubts here?

One of the reasons I researched the festival was to try to find the truth amongst the propaganda. The first lie was that it was a festival for peace in support of Gaza. Blatant lie. It was a hippie trance festival. Ecstasy, sex and drugs.

What pictures have you seen? Feel free to post. I have found no evidence of 260 dead bodies. I have looked. An emotional friend of one of the kidnaped from the festival was on Jesse Waters Neocon Orgy tonight. The tragedy described was about 120 people kidnapped, yet no mention of 260 dead.

We are awash in a sea of war propaganda and lies right now. Believe any of it at your own risk of looking foolish later.
 
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Yes we are. There is a neocon orgy of propaganda and lies on Fox News today. The sad part is how many people, people who should know better, swallow the media propaganda narrative hook, line and sinker.
 
Of all the lies, manipulation suddenly, the media should be believed as a badge of Truth? after all the lies they said about the two Iraqi wars and the Libyan intervention?

Do we not remember the lies they said about the Ukrainian conflict as well?

Suddenly we should believe the media on the Israeli/Hamas conflict?
 
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Of all the lies, manipulation suddenly, the media should be believed as a badge of Truth? after all the lies they said about the two Iraqi wars and the Libyan intervention?

Do we not remember the lies they said about the Ukrainian conflict as well?

Suddenly we should believe the media on the Israeli/Hamas conflict?

You have to look at the media from both sides in a conflict. For the Israeli/Hamas conflict Al-Jazeera is a good source for the other side. For Ukraine/Russia RT is good.

Once you read both, the truth is usually in the middle somewhere.
 
One of the reasons I researched the festival was to try to find the truth amongst the propaganda. The first lie was that it was a festival for peace in support of Gaza. Blatant lie. It was a hippie trance festival. Ecstasy, sex and drugs.

Why didn't you just ask me? I've been to at least a dozen of those things and have heard at least one of the DJs who was there. It's my favorite scene.

However you're not completely correct. The woman who was gang raped and had her legs snapped and killed then was paraded through the streets of Gaza was a prominent peace activist, and part of the reason they had the festival there was to discuss and sympathize with the Palestinian plight (not the Hamas violence, they would not support that like BLM does..), and send some positive vibes. I guess they didn't have enough mushrooms.

The festivals I've been to similar to that one typically have music all afternoon and night until sunrise. Then they have yoga and educational talks during the day until the music starts up again.
 
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More disgusting and inhuman insanity. It's coming from both sides and I refuse to participate in any capacity.

It's like a switch was flipped and everyone suddenly turned into homicidal and genocidal maniacs who are craving war, death, and destruction.

It's clear we're ramping up for an immense amount of violence across the world simultaneously, which will of course devolve into more draconian measures, censorship, lockdowns, restrictions on travel, economic collapse, and then the eventual great reset that the elites have been eager to facilitate for quite a long time.

Everyone knows they're trying to manufacture the great reset and thought it'd be done with another contrived pandemic, but because they milked COVID dry and ran out of fear propaganda to perpetrate upon us, they instead played the middle eastern war card because people don't care about death unless it's happening in Israel apparently.

Meanwhile the vaccine, lockdowns, hospitals, and everything in between over the last few years has killed millions of people directly and indirectly, but barely anyone gave a damn about that in the end. All they had to do was mass censor it on social media and keep running with the same abject denialism in "trusting the science" until people moved onto the next current thing and forgot about what they just did to humanity.

Here we are again, possessed by the current thing, blind to recent history, doomed to repeat it.

It's all so tiring. Wish we could all unite on the first principle of it being the people vs the elites, and quit trying to slaughter each other
 
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