Hamas attacks Israel

Can't blame them.

Do you think the US should be sending money to Israel?

I'm agnostic on the question of "who's the bad guy between Israel and Palestine" but I'm 100% opposed to the US using taxpayer money to support Israel in any way.
 
Checking in on the beacon of democracy in the Middle East....

(THIS IS FROM TODAY 1/21/2025)



Source from JPost:
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-838603

Denying Israel's victimhood is now punishable by jailtime in democratic Israel.

Anyway, conspiracies are stupid anyway....

(FREEBIE) In unrelated news, where exactly did Elon get the X and Grok logo ideas?

 
Do you think the US should be sending money to Israel?

I've been at this site for sixteen years. I've been quite consistent and vocal on my positions on such matters.

But to answer directly, NO. I hope that is sufficiently unambiguous.

I'm agnostic on the question of "who's the bad guy between Israel and Palestine" but I'm 100% opposed to the US using taxpayer money to support Israel in any way.

They are BOTH bad guys. If they murder each other to the very last beating heart, I would lose no sleep. Drothers, I'd rather they grew up and chose to live together but after 78 years it appears that all parties have chosen to continue to hold their losing positions. So be it. I don't live there and I don't much care what they choose to do with one another.

That all said, were I to pay non-trivial attention to what has gone on there, and I have assiduously avoided this, I am sure I would be horrified. But I would be fair about my emotions. I would not wring my hands over the po' PO' "Palestinians" while calling for extermination of Jews, nor the complement. As it stands, however, I see clearly that giving a hat-fuck about either side is like getting all teary-eyed over the plight of addicts. There is no point because those people want the shit in which they marinate. I leave them to their devices to the extent the leave me out of their mischief, which is oone of the reasons I live on a small farm away from anything that might be seen as "civilization". Contrary to the standard line of the progressive ilk, such people have little to no interest in altering their choices.

I once spend a couple hours with a heroin addict who was clearly having a bad day. When I asked whether she was interested in getting cleaned up, her response was basically no way in hell, telling me "I love my heroin." Have a nice day.

And so it is with humanity in general. Some people are eager to cry and whinge about their dolorous circumstances, yet have no interest in helping themselves, content to have others do all the heavy lifting.

Fuck that, and fuck them.
 
If you cannot take the time to explain yourself in your own words, then we have nothing to talk about. Tossing a link at me with nothing more fails.

You're not interested in anything but attempting to justify their actions.

Which is sick, if you ask me.
 
You're not interested in anything but attempting to justify their actions.

Which is sick, if you ask me.

I see - so now you presume to understand my interests. Please elaborate. How's about we hash it our for real. No bullshit, no evasions, no links, just man to man argumentation minus the hand-wringing and other overwrought emotions? If you can prove your case, I am happy to concede.

Up for it?
 
I see - so now you presume to understand my interests. Please elaborate. How's about we hash it our for real. No bull$#@!, no evasions, no links, just man to man argumentation minus the hand-wringing and other overwrought emotions? If you can prove your case, I am happy to concede.

Up for it?

Not really. The facts are out there. Let's leave it.
 
IDF bombs 5 year-old Palestinian girl pulling a horse cart.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=5+year+old+animal+cart+gaza+killed&t=ffsb&ia=web

Hamas terrorists brutally murdered hostage brothers Kfir and Ariel Bibas with their ‘bare hands’: Israeli officials
https://nypost.com/2025/02/21/world...ibas-with-their-bare-hands-israeli-officials/

It really goes both ways and it's all bullshit osan is correct, they BOTH suck.



I've been at this site for sixteen years. I've been quite consistent and vocal on my positions on such matters.

But to answer directly, NO. (My view have changed - older/wiser (IDK??) I hope that is sufficiently unambiguous.



They are BOTH bad guys. If they murder each other to the very last beating heart, I would lose no sleep. Drothers, I'd rather they grew up and chose to live together but after 78 years it appears that all parties have chosen to continue to hold their losing positions. So be it. I don't live there and I don't much care what they choose to do with one another.

That all said, were I to pay non-trivial attention to what has gone on there, and I have assiduously avoided this, I am sure I would be horrified. But I would be fair about my emotions. I would not wring my hands over the po' PO' "Palestinians" while calling for extermination of Jews, nor the complement. As it stands, however, I see clearly that giving a hat-fuck about either side is like getting all teary-eyed over the plight of addicts. There is no point because those people want the shit in which they marinate. I leave them to their devices to the extent the leave me out of their mischief, which is oone of the reasons I live on a small farm away from anything that might be seen as "civilization". Contrary to the standard line of the progressive ilk, such people have little to no interest in altering their choices.

...

And so it is with humanity in general. Some people are eager to cry and whinge about their dolorous circumstances, yet have no interest in helping themselves, content to have others do all the heavy lifting.

Fuck that, and fuck them.
 
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