Gun Owner and RP supporter RAIDED at whim of congressbitch

[Doktor_Jeep]

I have an even stronger word on mind.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212008/news/regionalnews/gun_seizure_lawsuit_120836.htm

 

[torchbearer]

hmmmmmmm

 

[hypnagogue]

Interesting news. More facts needed for an opinion of course.

 

[jkm1864]

Bleeding heart liberals gotta love them because they never see past their stupid emotions.. Just imagine all the people whom are going to die due to criminals having guns and the honest people being disarmed. I have always felt that criminals that shoot people do so because they are cowards and their is no concern for retribution because the honest citizen isn't packing 24/7.

 

[ladyjade3]

Hmmm... sounds like he *might* possibly have been behaving like a nut.

 

[Kalifornia]

Hmmm... sounds like he *might* possibly have been behaving like a nut.

Im not sure 'behaving like a nut' is probable cause for a raid of your home and seizure of all your weapons.

 

[synapz]

im not sure 'behaving like a nut' is probable cause for a raid of your home and seizure of all your weapons.

qft +1

 

[Maverick]

"The office staff felt that Razzano's behavior was disruptive and threatening," said Lt. Kevin Smith, a police spokesman.

Razzano's home was raided the next morning.

That's all they had to go on? "Disruptive" or "threatening behavior" are rather subjective assessments. Also, consider the source of those accusations.

We'll have to see what other information comes out of this. I hope they had something more concrete to go on if they want to try to justify the raid.

 

[Kalifornia]

That's all they had to go on? "Disruptive" or "threatening behavior" are rather subjective assessments. Also, consider the source of those accusations.

We'll have to see what other information comes out of this. I hope they had something more concrete to go on if they want to try to justify the raid.

Im guessing they went with 'doctrine of preemption'.

 

[Maverick]

Im guessing they went with 'doctrine of preemption'.

I'm thinking it's time we just got on with it, and refer to law enforcement as Pre-Crime Units, amirite?

 

[Kalifornia]

I'm thinking it's time we just got on with it, and refer to law enforcement as Pre-Crime Units, amirite?

Isnt that the whole justification for the criminalization of drugs?

 

[Maverick]

Isnt that the whole justification for the criminalization of drugs?

Because if you smoke a little weed, we all know that means you're definitely going to go out and mass-murder 20 people

And what's with arrests for "paraphenalia?" Just possessing something that could possibly be used for an illegal activity that's only illegal because you could maybe go out and do something bad, is in and of itself illegal. What bullshit.

 

[Kalifornia]

Because if you smoke a little weed, we all know that means you're definitely going to go out and mass-murder 20 people

And what's with arrests for "paraphenalia?" Just possessing something that could possibly be used for an illegal activity that's only illegal because you could maybe go out and do something bad, is in and of itself illegal. What bullshit.

Just about all victimless crime law falls into one of those crazy categories. Gun control, drug war, prostitution, you name it.

The real enemy is the preemption doctrine.

 

[Maverick]

The real enemy is the preemption doctrine.

And that's why I said we should just go ahead and establish ourselves a Department of Precrime. At least then we're being honest about it.

 

[Kalifornia]

And that's why I said we should just go ahead and establish ourselves a Department of Precrime. At least then we're being honest about it.

True. I think Im gonna go kick every socialist and fascist I can find preemptively in the nuts.

 

[Doktor_Jeep]

Hmmm... sounds like he *might* possibly have been behaving like a nut.

yes, go ahead and think that.

To think otherwise might be too scarey for you.

It's always easy to justify the actions of those who set precedents to crush you at their whim, than it is to fully realize what happened and handle the scarey truth.


I expect the same things went on in the minds of many who were packed into frieght cars, then shoved out of them at places where the smell of burning flesh hung in the air. Yet they still obeyed and did not fight back, because all of the evidence before them bore a truth that they could not handle either.

 

[Doktor_Jeep]

True. I think Im gonna go kick every socialist and fascist I can find preemptively in the nuts.

Remind me not to get into WWII reenactments around you lest I find the old chicken bag in my back pocket.

And anyone who wants to think that that guy had it coming for "being a nut", let me tell you, I have been in situations where people would put words in my mouth, and hyperventilate and ninny acting scared to get what they wanted, trying to get others to do it for them.

I guess it has to happen to some of you morons before you get it. But you will get it alright, and I won't shed a tear over your bleached bones on the roadside.

 

[Kalifornia]

Remind me not to get into WWII reenactments around you lest I find the old chicken bag in my back pocket.

And anyone who wants to think that that guy had it coming for "being a nut", let me tell you, I have been in situations where people would put words in my mouth, and hyperventilate and ninny acting scared to get what they wanted, trying to get others to do it for them.

I guess it has to happen to some of you morons before you get it. But you will get it alright, and I won't shed a tear over your bleached bones on the roadside.

woah there pard, I was the one defending your boy. Its a man's constitutional right to act crazy. last I checked, getting a bit heated isn't probable cause for invadinf a mans home and seizing his property.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

wow um ok then.

Remind me not to get into WWII reenactments around you lest I find the old chicken bag in my back pocket.

And anyone who wants to think that that guy had it coming for "being a nut", let me tell you, I have been in situations where people would put words in my mouth, and hyperventilate and ninny acting scared to get what they wanted, trying to get others to do it for them.

I guess it has to happen to some of you morons before you get it. But you will get it alright, and I won't shed a tear over your bleached bones on the roadside.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Sadly, there just aren't enough facts (the article was either hastily written, or there was bad investigative journalism). I mean, "unpopular" political beliefs? I think that describes everyone on Ron Paul Forums. Doktor Jeep, thanks for sharing this.

I can't even tell by reading the article whether or not the guy is going to get a trial. That would throw up some bright red flags if he doesn't.