Group Project: Let's Rank The Presidents and Summarize Their Presidencies

Great idea. Are there any websites that would be good resources for studying the presidents?

I found a website with all the State of the Union speeches. I'm not so sure that every one of these speeches reflects their actual actions as POTUS and certainly puts a bit of a spin on things, but I think it is a nice place to start.

hxxp://stateoftheunion.onetwothree.net/texts/index.html

Replace xx with tt in the URL.
 
I found a website with all the State of the Union speeches. I'm not so sure that every one of these speeches reflects their actual actions as POTUS and certainly puts a bit of a spin on things, but I think it is a nice place to start.

hxxp://stateoftheunion.onetwothree.net/texts/index.html

Replace xx with tt in the URL.

Thanks.
 
What if we grouped them rather than argue over a definitive ranking?

Perfect score: William Henry Harrison
God tier: Cleveland, Van Buren, Harding
Good tier: Coolidge,

And so on...

Dirt tier: Bush 1,
Slime tier: Bush 2, Obama, Carter
Shit tier: Nixon, LBJ, Truman
Satanic tier: FDR, Wilson, Lincoln
 
What if we grouped them rather than argue over a definitive ranking?

Perfect score: William Henry Harrison
God tier: Cleveland, Van Buren, Harding
Good tier: Coolidge,

And so on...

Dirt tier: Bush 1,
Slime tier: Bush 2, Obama, Carter
Shit tier: Nixon, LBJ, Truman
Satanic tier: FDR, Wilson, Lincoln

Hmmmm.
 
What if we grouped them rather than argue over a definitive ranking?

Perfect score: William Henry Harrison
God tier: Cleveland, Van Buren, Harding
Good tier: Coolidge,

And so on...

Dirt tier: Bush 1,
Slime tier: Bush 2, Obama, Carter
Shit tier: Nixon, LBJ, Truman
Satanic tier: FDR, Wilson, Lincoln

This, please. I'm not very educated on our past presidents. This would give me a great jumping off point to better inform myself. I only recently became aware that Lincoln wasn't too good a dude.
 
Ok let's do groupings. I'm going to post MaxPower's list in the OP and the Recarving Rushmore list plus slowly work on my own.
 
thomas jefferson belongs near the bottom as a very corrupted president.Jefferson fell very far from his original ideologies when he decided to invent the idea of sending native americans to reservations.....
 
What if we grouped them rather than argue over a definitive ranking?

Perfect score: William Henry Harrison
God tier: Cleveland, Van Buren, Harding
Good tier: Coolidge,

And so on...

Dirt tier: Bush 1,
Slime tier: Bush 2, Obama, Carter
Shit tier: Nixon, LBJ, Truman
Satanic tier: FDR, Wilson, Lincoln

WH Harrison was one of the biggest government presidents prior to Wilson. He appointed a big government cabinet. The joke that he did not do anything is BS. Then you can factor in his election rhetoric and inaugural speech agenda. This really needs to stop.
 
thomas jefferson belongs near the bottom as a very corrupted president.Jefferson fell very far from his original ideologies when he decided to invent the idea of sending native americans to reservations.....

The Indians, a warlike barbaric people, had been scalping Americans for almost 200 years. They also got the white man hooked on tobacco and gave them syphilis. Not only that, Indians were wealthy landowners hogging vast tracts of land while poor people in Europe were starving to death.
 
What if we grouped them rather than argue over a definitive ranking?

Perfect score: William Henry Harrison
God tier: Cleveland, Van Buren, Harding
Good tier: Coolidge,

And so on...

Dirt tier: Bush 1,
Slime tier: Bush 2, Obama, Carter
Shit tier: Nixon, LBJ, Truman
Satanic tier: FDR, Wilson, Lincoln

Eh, God tier?
 
The Indians, a warlike barbaric people, had been scalping Americans for almost 200 years. They also got the white man hooked on tobacco and gave them syphilis. Not only that, Indians were wealthy landowners hogging vast tracts of land while poor people in Europe were starving to death.

Oh boy, that one made me laugh. Pot, meet stir stick.
 
Oh boy, that one made me laugh. Pot, meet stir stick.

You might think its funny, but 200 years ago it was the accurate consensus view. Indians were not peaceful libertarians. The concept of freedom and individual liberty developed historically almost exclusively via Western culture. The enemies of freedom will use any method possible, including historical revisionism, and a prime example today is to portray Indians as libertarians, and those of European stock as savages. The truth is that it is the other way around.
 
You might think its funny, but 200 years ago it was the accurate consensus view. Indians were not peaceful libertarians. The concept of freedom and individual liberty developed historically almost exclusively via Western culture. The enemies of freedom will use any method possible, including historical revisionism, and a prime example today is to portray Indians as libertarians, and those of European stock as savages. The truth is that it is the other way around.

I'm not disputing what you posted, and I'm aware that Western culture is responsible for our being here on this forum at all.

I'm just laughing in advance at the reaction. But then again, this IS RPF and I might be surprised.
 
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