Governor Nixon removing STL PD from Ferguson

[PaulConventionWV]

Waco, Ruby Ridge...

Those aren't neighborhoods...

 

[Lucille]

Grigg: “Outside Agitators” in Ferguson
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/outside-agitators-in-ferguson/

...Ferguson is a town of about 21,000 people — two-thirds of whom are black — has an unremarkable violent crime rate (thefts are regrettably plentiful there) and — as the world has seen — a police department that has received the full panoply of military toys and battlefield-grade weapons.

Although it has been armed to the gills through the Pentagon’s 1033 program, the police department has no functional dashcams or body cameras to record “interactions” with the public; the department has received that hardware, but hasn’t gotten around to using it. It’s all a matter of priorities: Military-grade armaments and equipment can enhance officer safety, while video recorders can imperil the career security of abusive police officers. And as the treatment of journalists, both foreign and domestic, by Ferguson police demonstrates, police in that jurisdiction — as elsewhere — are very concerned about the threats posed by video recording devices in the hands of Mundanes.
[...]
Federal officials are not the only “outside” influences contributing to the militarization of the Ferguson PD. Three years ago, then-St. Louis County Police Chief Timothy Fitch was one of dozens of police officials who traveled to Israel on a training junket sponsored by the so-called Anti-Defamation League. While there, the officers were “briefed by senior members of the Israel National Police as well as officials from the Israel Defense Forces and Intelligence/Security organizations.”

Fitch pointed out that his police agency, whose jurisdiction includes Ferguson, “currently houses the St. Louis Terrorism Early Warning (TEW) group, which is the region’s fusion center serving the city of St. Louis and seven counties in Missouri and Illinois.”

A “fusion center” is a Homeland Security soviet that consolidates law enforcement, military, and intelligence operations. It serves as both a collection point and local control node for the Regime’s surveillance and internal security system. Fusion centers also play an important role in indoctrinating “local” police about domestic “threats” as identified by groups such as the ADL and the group calling itself the Southern Poverty Law Center. The notorious 2009 report identifying the “modern militia movement” as the leading “domestic terrorism” threat was the product of the Missouri Information Analysis Center, which operates through a fusion center in that state. More than fifty of those entities pockmark the American landscape like syphilitic sores.

Significantly, many of the Ferguson residents peacefully protesting the killing of Michael Brown have expressed contempt for the soi-disant Reverend Al Sharpton, whose presence is good and sufficient evidence that the powers behind the scenes have set the spin cycle to “race agitate.” Sharpton, as was recently revealed, is not merely an “outside agitator,” but also a federal snitch.

Now that the federalized “local” police in Ferguson have become a liability, the Feds have decided to cut out the middleman: The FBI has now been given operational command, which means that the city is now under tender care of the same agency responsible for the murders at Ruby Ridge and the holocaust at Mt. Carmel.

 

[The Free Hornet]

Plenty of reasons. We had a SWAT team gun down a white kid armed with a spoon a few year back. No rioting. No one threw bricks through a Whole Foods window or knocked off Nordstrom's for spring-wear. Not even a knocked over recycling bin. It's total horseshit why anyone would tolerate this behavior.

Yes, I'm omitting your last line. One group is not tolerating this behavior and you may not like how that intolerance is expressed, but at least they didn't tolerate a SWAT team killing SpoonBoy.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Plenty of reasons. We had a SWAT team gun down a white kid armed with a spoon a few year back. No rioting. No one threw bricks through a Whole Foods window or knocked off Nordstrom's for spring-wear. Not even a knocked over recycling bin. It's total horseshit why anyone would tolerate this behavior. If they attacked the police department I could understand....

Black neighborhoods don't riot every time a black kid is killed, either.

It's just that it's more common for them. "White trash" neighborhoods don't get harassed like this.

 

[Anti Federalist]

When has a predominantly white neighborhood ever had a reason to be mad at the cops (to the same extent as the poverty-stricken black neighborhoods)?

Kelly Thomas was white.

Baby Bou Bou was white.

Patricia Cook was white.

Jason Turk was white.

Emily Harrison was white.

I could go on and on...

The only difference is that white people, mistakenly, think they are still part of, and being served by, the system

Thus, when cops do shit like this to well broken in and compliant white people:

They respond like this:

I'll leave it to you to decide which is worse...prostrate, cowering compliance, or rioting and looting.

 

[Occam's Banana]

The head of the proverbial nail cannot be hit any more squarely than this:

Kelly Thomas was white.

Baby Bou Bou was white.

Patricia Cook was white.

Jason Turk was white.

Emily Harrison was white.

I could go on and on...

The only difference is that white people, mistakenly, think they are still part of, and being served by, the system.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Kelly Thomas was white.

Baby Bou Bou was white.

Patricia Cook was white.

Jason Turk was white.

Emily Harrison was white.

I could go on and on...

The only difference is that white people, mistakenly, think they are still part of, and being served by, the system

Thus, when cops do shit like this to well broken in and compliant white people:

They respond like this:

I'll leave it to you to decide which is worse...prostrate, cowering compliance, or rioting and looting.

Forget it. Apparently my point has been lost completely.

 

[pcosmar]

Forget it. Apparently my point has been lost completely.

?? You had a point?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Forget it. Apparently my point has been lost completely.

No, elaborate, if I missed your point.

I'm not trying to be shitty with you.

But clearly, white folks have just as much to fear from a hyper aggressive, militarized police force as anybody else, they just don't realize it.

 

[Ender]

Yes, I'm omitting your last line. One group is not tolerating this behavior and you may not like how that intolerance is expressed, but at least they didn't tolerate a SWAT team killing SpoonBoy.

Exactly. Amazing the prejudices that pop up on this forum.

Nasty black community because a few, who were not involved in the protest, did some looting.

Respectable white neighborhood because they sat on their butts and did NOTHING when SpoonBoy was killed.

 

[mad cow]

The only difference is that white people, mistakenly, think they are still part of, and being served by, the system

If by system you mean the convenience stores,tire shops,strip malls and such owned and run and worked in by my neighbors, then yes I am still a part of and being served by it.
That's why I will never loot them in a riot no matter what my so-called grievances might be.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If by system you mean the convenience stores,tire shops,strip malls and such owned and run and worked in by my neighbors, then yes I am still a part of and being served by it.
That's why I will never loot them in a riot no matter what my so-called grievances might be.

No, I mean the system of government overseers.

"So called"?

What, am I imagining the dead kid in the street, gunned down by a cop?

 

[mad cow]

No, I mean the system of government overseers.

"So called"?

What, am I imagining the dead kid in the street, gunned down by a cop?

I was talking about my so-called grievances.And whites have rioted and vandalized and looted,1999 Seattle WTO riots come to mind,there are many others.

I don't particularly like the WTO and I hate militarized cops,but whatever happens,my neighbors are safe from me ever looting their stores,burning their cars or throwing bricks through their windows.
I find it to be inexcusable behavior,but hey,that's just me.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I was talking about my so-called grievances.And whites have rioted and vandalized and looted,1999 Seattle WTO riots come to mind,there are many others.

I don't particularly like the WTO and I hate militarized cops,but whatever happens,my neighbors are safe from me ever looting their stores,burning their cars or throwing bricks through their windows.
I find it to be inexcusable behavior,but hey,that's just me.

As are mine.

I would hope that if it ever came to that, I could convince the mob to riot and loot the proper targets.

 

[69360]

Those aren't neighborhoods...

Close enough. Did white people in Idaho and Texas loot and burn afterwards? Nope.

 

[Lucille]

Kelly Thomas was white.

Baby Bou Bou was white.

Patricia Cook was white.

Jason Turk was white.

Emily Harrison was white.

I could go on and on...

The only difference is that white people, mistakenly, think they are still part of, and being served by, the system

Thus, when cops do shit like this to well broken in and compliant white people:

They respond like this:

I'll leave it to you to decide which is worse...prostrate, cowering compliance, or rioting and looting.

I've always thought that the sign in the last pic should read something like, "Thank you for smoking, David Hanberry!" The jackbooted thugs couldn't even find the perp when operating under Marital Law, FFS.

Anti-Tyranny Tipping Point?
Boston kowtowed—Ferguson didn’t. Article by John Whitehead.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/john-w-whitehead/anti-tyranny-tipping-point/

The difference between what happened in Boston in the wake of the Boston Marathon explosion and what is happening now in Ferguson, Missouri, is not in the government’s response but in the community’s response.
[...]
Consider that it was just a little over a year ago that the city of Boston was locked down while police carried out a military-style manhunt for the suspects in the Boston Marathon explosion. At the time, Americans welcomed the city-wide lockdown, the routine invasion of their privacy, and the dismantling of every constitutional right intended to serve as a bulwark against government abuses.

 

[Warlord]

Kelly Thomas did it to himself.

 

[ProIndividual]

Yeah, right, he just beat himself to death. Roger that...lol

 

[ProIndividual]

And now the National Guard are going in...and the next rung of the hierarchy is reached. Up, up, and away, until we get all the way up and the coercive monopoly becomes fully visible to all. Remember what I said:

The problem is solved by trotting out a token house slave and overseer to placate the field slaves? The problem is solved by further centralizing the authority used to deal with the matter within the monopoly on law enforcement? As opposed to allowing competition through decentralization? Yeah, and if this doesn't work in the end, they'll just further centralize the authority until they run out of layers in the hierarchy. And then the monopoly becomes apparent, and the "changes" in authority are seen for what they are...changing which head of the hydra (multi-headed dragon) is eating you.

One rung at a time...

 

[devil21]

No, elaborate, if I missed your point.

I'm not trying to be shitty with you.

But clearly, white folks have just as much to fear from a hyper aggressive, militarized police force as anybody else, they just don't realize it.

White people's day to day in cities isn't as harsh....but when the hammer drops there's no mistaking it, for that same reason.