GOP Top Brass Discuss Strategies; What to Do About Paul and Returning to Core Values

[Sesshomaru]

I think the GOP will lose if they elect a pro-war candidate because the Dem turnout and money is massive.

BUT if they elect Ron Paul and put their resources behind him, his anti-war stance will resonate with 70% of the people. No Dem can now back track because they now committed themselves to the war in some form or fashion. I firmly believe that Ron Paul can win if hes nominated.

Also, I think this revolution is about ideas AND making Paul president. Consider this, I would not want Paul to do awesome stuff and then, at the end of his 2nd term, have the party nominate someone who only pays lip service to the message and fucks everything up. So voting in candidates who truly believe in the message will be critical.

 

[Ernest]

If the GOP really has "seen the light" then not only will they have to embrace Ron Paul but almost every one if not all of them need to vacate and we will put new people in.

I don't trust the GOP. The tyrants showed themselves real well over the summer and have been stepping all over "conservatism" and "traditionalism" for years. The GOP gets remade or we do something else.

 

[pacelli]

This has nothing with moving towards actual conservative/libertarian values. It has to do with using Ron Paul talking points to win elections. Basically, how do we get a Guiliani or Thompson to sound enough like Ron Paul that we can swing some of his voters and not lose the general in a landslide. I don't see how this is a good thing. It's not like they're going to embrace the real deal.

Ah ha.

 

[RlxdN10sity]

They will adopt his positions as if they were their own original thoughts. Then do what they have been saying from the beginning plus some. None of the candidates can be trusted except Ron Paul. How will these pro-war, pro-globalist candidates be able to switch without looking like super flip-floppers?

 

[cswake]

^^ They'll give Sanford permission to endorse Paul. That would guarantee a big win there.

 

[Libertytree]

Sess, I agree with you 1000%.

It IS the idea's and we have to put people in the inside that will address the major grievances we espouse. They will pretend to do it for us but we cannot accept that, it has to be "us", regular folk.

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

There are something like 88,000 Meetup members. Imagine if they all wrote a letter to their state GOP chairman. If it comes down to a brokered convention, don't you think that would have a huge impact?

Let's do it! Everyone tell your MeetUps and give them a link to this thread. If we don't say anything, they'll be able to tell themselves we don't care so much, or matter so much, after all.

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

Is that it?

I haven't seen RP not being able to respond to these critiques with reasonableness and consistency. People will realize that these critiques are flakes.

I can't see Republicans voting democratic unless the dem nominee is well worth it and Hillary is really not worth it. Republicans remember B Clinton in the WH and will do everything to prevent another Clinton in the WH.

If he had been able to respond to these critiques in a better manner, he might have finished higher than 5th in NH and Iowa and would be higher in the polls in other states. If you haven't noticed, Paul's speaking abilitites leave a lot to be desired. You can't just assume that the Democrats would vote for Paul based soley on his positions on the war, Patriot Act, and federal drug war alone, totally ignoring social issues, economic issues, and past positions of dismantling every social program created by FDR, LBJ, and Bill Clinton. And then at the same time say that the Republicans would magically come together behind a Ron Paul nominee and totally ignore his positions on the war, Patriot Act, federal drug war, and other national security issues. The Republicans will lose in the general election no matter who their nominee is because of Bush, Iraq, and the economy, not Ron Paul.

 

[quickmike]

I say screw the republican party.

I backed them too many times in the past by voting for a candidate that promised vetos to big govt spending and ended up with just another president that goes along with all the increases. Now, here we are all these years later and we FINALLY have a guy running that actually has lived what he preaches for over 30 years and what do they do? They blow him off as a "gadfly" candidate. As far as im concerned they can go down in flames to the socialist democrats next november. If they really want to show that they are TRULY for smaller government, they would be backing Ron Paul. The fact that they are not doing this clearly shows that they are nothing but talk.

For me, its Ron Paul or nothing this year. They need to be shown that if they nominate another RINO, they will go down in flames. This needs to be the message that they hear loud and clear.

 

[RockEnds]

Just a reminder how much the shape of the election has changed in less than a year:

http://news-releases.uiowa.edu/2007/april/040307poll.html

The political process doesn't end with precinct caucuses and primary elections, either. We're in the party. We're speaking with others in the party. We're identifying those within the party who are also interested in small government and greater local control. We're planning platform reform. We're looking for local candidates. We're here, and we're not going away any time soon.

 

[Ralph O'Brien]

I hope this is true... it sure seems like Huckabee is on board

Cold day in HELL before I vote for Custer(reincarnated Mc Cain) and Huckster is just a lying Elmer Gantry! Let the REVOLUTION continue. I e-mailed RNC many times and suggest others do as well.

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[AlbemarleNC0003]

There are something like 88,000 Meetup members. Imagine if they all wrote a letter to their state GOP chairman. If it comes down to a brokered convention, don't you think that would have a huge impact?

I've already written all of my county and state GOP officials. I haven't heard a word back. It's been over a week.

 

[susano]

Here's a link to the Meetups: http://www.meetup.com/cities/

You have to click on a state, then the cities with Meetups come up. Then you have to click on each city, scroll down to the Ron Paul Meetups, and click on those. On each one is an organizer and a "contact" to click one. Each one needs to emailed and asked to do this. I don't there is any way to mass email through Meetup. If there is someone correct me.

Just a short note, with a title like: Urgent: Contact your state GOP Chairman, with a link to this thread.

I can do my state, Michigan, when I get home tomorrow night. Now, 49 people need to step up for the others.

Perhaps people can post what state they are taking, right here.

 

[susano]

They need to be shown that if they nominate another RINO, they will go down in flames. This needs to be the message that they hear loud and clear.

That is exactly the message that 88,000 Meetup members need to send to their state GOP chair.

 

[CountryRoads]

Until the Republican party stands for universal liberties and rights and a non interventionist policy, I won't be voting for their candidate (unless its Ron Paul). I've had enough of their costly wars (war on drugs, iraq, bases everywhere etc). Same with democrats for that matter.

 

[RSLudlum]

This actually came up in a conversation with my father a couple of days ago. He said that he was scared that so many of us would not even vote in the general election for the republican nomination and that the dems would win. But he did say thanks to us, returning to some main republican values didn't seem so much like a pipedream anymore and never thought that someone like Paul with so little face time exposure could make such an impact in the race both Repub/Dem and bring the arguement back that small gov't can be achieved!

 

[susano]

Just a reminder how much the shape of the election has changed in less than a year:

http://news-releases.uiowa.edu/2007/april/040307poll.html

The political process doesn't end with precinct caucuses and primary elections, either. We're in the party. We're speaking with others in the party. We're identifying those within the party who are also interested in small government and greater local control. We're planning platform reform. We're looking for local candidates. We're here, and we're not going away any time soon.

That's right! It could come to a brokered convention. Each state GOP chair is going to have those emails and letters from Meetup members on their mind. We need to act just like any other power base would - JUST DO IT.

 

[susano]

Here's a link to the Meetups: http://www.meetup.com/cities/

You have to click on a state, then the cities with Meetups come up. Then you have to click on each city, scroll down to the Ron Paul Meetups, and click on those. On each one is an organizer and a "contact" to click one. Each one needs to emailed and asked to do this. I don't there is any way to mass email through Meetup. If there is someone correct me.

Just a short note, with a title like: Urgent: Contact your state GOP Chairman, with a link to this thread.

I can do my state, Michigan, when I get home tomorrow night. Now, 49 people need to step up for the others.

Perhaps people can post what state they are taking, right here.

I'll email all Michiagn Meetups with this request.

Somebody, ANYBODY, pick a state and say you'll do it.

 

[michaelwise]

My God parents family were were chairman of the Republican party of Philadelphia for a very long time. I have always been a registered Republican my whole life. Although I have never been actively involved in politics myself until this campaign, I thought to myself today, I should become an active member of the party and shake things up a bit. I've always believed in core Republican values but have since lost all hope for my party until now. It may take decades to get the party back on track but what the heck, we've got to have a new start some time.

 

[susano]

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