GOP REP: BOEHNER MAY RESIGN TONIGHT... REBELS HAVE 17-20 VOTES

[BSU kid]

I'm guessing Boehner never resigned....would we not know by now

 

[osan]

You all must surely realize that this is nothing more than theater.

Yes?

 

[AGRP]

You all must surely realize that this is nothing more than theater.

Yes?

A handful of members are either extremely naive or trolls. I think its the latter.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

This is the impression I was under... which leads me to believe a Democrat could easily win the speakership.

Which i'd be thrilled with. Let the Dems own this mess!

SERIOUSLY SCARY!

You do realize that the speaker can keep a bill off the floor, can let it be open for amendments or not and controls committee assignments - right?

And That the Dems control the Senate.

Making the speaker a Dem would be like giving the the Dems the House, and therefore both houses and the Executive Office.

-t

 

[satchelmcqueen]

is there a chance ron paul could be nominated to take his place?

 

[NoOneButPaul]

SERIOUSLY SCARY!

You do realize that the speaker can keep a bill off the floor, can let it be open for amendments or not and controls committee assignments - right?

And That the Dems control the Senate.

Making the speaker a Dem would be like giving the the Dems the House, and therefore both houses and the Executive Office.

-t

Fine.

Let them crash it.

The entire thing has to, and is destined to, crash anyway so we might as well let the Dems take the fall and present Rand as the more moderate version of his father.

It's not perfect but it's the best play I can see. It's not like Neo-Republicans matter anyway or wouldn't still hold power in the house.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

is there a chance ron paul could be nominated to take his place?

same question =D...

 

[dillo]

is there a chance ron paul could be nominated to take his place?

Well anyone can technically be speaker of the house, it could be George Clooney

 

[Brett85]

is there a chance ron paul could be nominated to take his place?

Ron Paul is retired.

 

[JK/SEA]

You all must surely realize that this is nothing more than theater.

Yes?

dammit...and i was almost out of that rabbit hole.

Thanks for the slap....i needed that.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The selection process:

Selection

The House of Representatives elects the speaker of the House on the first day of every new Congress, and also in the event of the death or resignation of an incumbent speaker. The incumbent Clerk of the House of Representatives requests nominations: there are normally two, one from each major party (each party will have previously met to decide on its nominee). The Clerk then calls the roll of the Representatives-elect, each Representative-elect indicating the surname of the candidate he or she is supporting. Representatives-elect are not restricted to voting for one of the nominated candidates: they may vote for any person, even for someone who is not a member (or member-elect) of the House at all. They may also abstain by voting "present".[3]

To be elected, a candidate must receive an absolute majority of all votes cast for individuals (i.e. excluding Representatives who abstain or are absent). If no candidate wins such a majority, then the roll-call is repeated until a speaker is elected. The last time repeated votes were required was in 1923, when the speaker was elected on the ninth ballot.[3]

The new Speaker is then sworn in by the Dean of the United States House of Representatives, the chamber's longest-serving member.

In modern practice, the speaker is chosen by the majority party from among its senior leaders, either when a vacancy in the office arrives, or when the majority party changes. It is usually obvious within two or three weeks of a House election who the new speaker will be. Previous speakers have been minority leaders (when the majority party changes, as they are already the House party leader, and as the minority leader is usually their party's nominee for speaker), or majority leaders (upon departure of the current speaker in the majority party), assuming that the party leadership hierarchy is followed. In the past, other potent candidates have included chairmen of influential standing committees.

So far the Democrats have always elevated their minority leader to the speakership upon reclaiming majority control of the House, however Republicans have not always followed this leadership succession pattern. In 1919, for instance, Republicans bypassed James R. Mann, R-IL, who had been minority leader for eight years, and elected Frederick Gillett, R-MA, to be speaker. Mann "had angered many Republicans by objecting to their private bills on the floor;" also he was a protégé of autocratic Speaker Joseph Cannon, R-IL (1903–1911), and many Members "suspected that he would try to re-centralize power in his hands if elected Speaker."[4] More recently, although Robert H. Michel was the Minority Leader in 1994 when the Republicans regained control of the House in the 1994 midterm elections, he had already announced his retirement and had little or no involvement in the campaign, including the Contract with America, which was unveiled six weeks before voting day. Michel opted not to seek re-election because he had been isolated in the caucus by Minority Whip Newt Gingrich and other younger and more aggressive congressmen; so it would have been unlikely that Michel could have retained a House leadership post in the succeeding session of Congress.

It is expected that members of the House vote for their party's candidate. If they do not do so, they usually vote for someone else in their party or vote "present". Those who vote for the other party's candidate often face serious consequences, up to and including the loss of seniority. The last major instance where a representative voted for the other party's candidate was in 2000, when Democrat Jim Traficant of Ohio voted for Republican Dennis Hastert. In response, the Democrats stripped him of his seniority and he lost all of his committee posts.

If the speaker's party loses control of the House in an election, and if the speaker and majority leader both remain in the leadership hierarchy, they would become the minority leader and minority whip, respectively. As the minority party has one less leadership position after losing the speaker's chair, there may be a contest for the remaining leadership positions. Most speakers whose party has lost control of the House had not returned to the party leadership (Tom Foley lost his seat, Dennis Hastert returned to the backbenches and resigned from the House in late 2007). However, Speakers Joseph William Martin, Jr. and Sam Rayburn did seek the Minority Leader post to retain the House party leadership, as their parties swapped control of the House in the late 1940s and early 1950s. Nancy Pelosi is the most recent example of an outgoing speaker who was elected Minority Leader, after the Democrats lost control of the House in the 2010 elections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

 

[itshappening]

OK, so 17 need to vote for *someone* and can't just vote present or abstain otherwise Boehner can win the majority of the votes cast for an individual.

So there's two options:

1) Someone stands as a "stalking horse" to give the 17 someone to rally behind and vote for thereby denying Boehner 218 votes and forcing a second ballot.

2) The 17 members - if there's that many - vote for a phantom candidate like Newt Gingrich just to make a point of denying Boehner an "absolute majority of votes cast for an individual". This has the advantage of no-one having to stand and look disloyal.

In either case it would force a 2nd ballot, something that hasnt happened since 1923 and Boehner would have to resign.

 

[Agorism]

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/...-block-boehners-election-as-speaker-tomorrow/

Hotair was wondering about 20 congressmen as well.

 

[itshappening]

The best thing we can do is encourage rebel representatives to vote for Newt Gingrich for speaker. Make sure he is nominated, seconded and backed by 17 of the rebels. This would force a second ballot and if the members stand firm then Boehner would have to resign.

Boehner might agree to restore Amash etc. to their committee votes in exchange for their vote and may attempt to buy off other dissenters in the ranks so they would have to stand firm and simply tell him YOUR FIRED

 

[brushfire]

Ron Paul is retired.

The speaker doesnt need to be a current member of the house.

 

[Agorism]

The best thing we can do is encourage rebel representatives to vote for Newt Gingrich for speaker. Make sure he is nominated, seconded and backed by 17 of the rebels. This would force a second ballot and if the members stand firm then Boehner would have to resign.

Boehner might agree to restore Amash etc. to their committee votes in exchange for their vote and may attempt to buy off other dissenters in the ranks so they would have to stand firm and simply tell him YOUR FIRED

Well if we had the votes, why not just fire him. Next guy would let them have their seats back.

 

[Spoa]

Today, the 113th congress begins.

 

[LibertyEagle]

He'll get the votes. Boner ain't goin' anywhere.

 

[Athan]

, the 113th congress begins.

 

[osan]

SERIOUSLY SCARY!

You do realize that the speaker can keep a bill off the floor, can let it be open for amendments or not and controls committee assignments - right?

And That the Dems control the Senate.

Making the speaker a Dem would be like giving the the Dems the House, and therefore both houses and the Executive Office.

-t

All the better. America NEEDS scary because thus far nothing else has worked to get their heads out of their anuses.

I say let them go to the wall - take it all the way. We will either fight or fold. I for one am tired of this pending issue and would like to come to good resolution on the question, one way or the other.

Bring it. I welcome it. Get the little hard-on out and get a democrat in. If nothing else, I want to live to see the wailing and the gnashing of teeth by all of the willfully stupid people who begged for things to come to this.