Gold is officially replacing the US dollar June 28th (when NDAA takes effect)

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Ron Paul has always said this whole ball game can change rapidly ....

FORBES (04/22/12) "Beijing is planning to avoid U.S. financial sanctions on Iran by paying for oil with gold. China’s imports of the metal are already large, and you can guess what additional purchases are going to do to prices."

"On the last day of 2011, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012. The NDAA, as it is called, attempts to reduce Iran’s revenue from the sale of petroleum by imposing sanctions on foreign financial institutions conducting transactions with Iranian financial institutions in connection with those sales. This provision, which essentially cuts off sanctioned institutions from the U.S. financial system, takes effect on June 28."

Bye bye reserve status. The folks @ CNBC today are going to look like complete idiots.


(CONT.) http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2012/04/22/the-best-reason-in-the-world-to-buy-gold/

UPDATE -- Jim Sinclair's take on this move:

The implications of China paying for Iranian oil in gold is the most important event in the modern history of gold

1. It is reasonable to assume that China has been threatened with total or at least selective exclusion from the SWIFT system if it pays in any currency for Iranian oil.
2. Gold has been decided by China as the means of making payment for massive international purchases free of the SWIFT system.
3. Other Asian and Middle Eastern nations will now see the gold they hold as money free of Western economic interference.
4. Gold now is not only money free of liability, but also free from interference regarding settlement by the long arm of Western influence.
5. The SWIFT system is becoming ever more a weapon of Western international political will.
6. In case of war anywhere, it is now demonstrated for all to see that only gold will buy the materials required. Paper currencies are under the SWIFT system's control in settlement.
7. Far from being a barbaric relic, gold is now clearly the money of state survival in every sense.
8. It is reasonable and possible for the supply of physical gold to fall far behind the size of the massive short positions now common to algorithm and hedge fund paper shorts. That will make an effective cover at a reasonable price as compared to a certain day's close impossible the following day on an exogenous event.
9. It may not be possible to use TA of any nature to determine a price of overvaluation for gold. Should the USA decide to take on China in full out economic war with the physical market totally illiquid, such as through isolation from the SWIFT system, consider the gold price that might result.
 
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We're already losing the WRC status...

That WRC status has been as good as gone since the BRICS meeting in south america last month... They agreed to trade in their Local currencies to each other. All five of them... Signed contracts and everything, news only reported on RT.com and infowars, natch.

Hope you guys and gals have already started buying your gold...
 
That WRC status has been as good as gone since the BRICS meeting in south america last month... They agreed to trade in their Local currencies to each other. All five of them... Signed contracts and everything, news only reported on RT.com and infowars, natch.

Hope you guys and gals have already started buying your gold...

Somehow I missed that. Thanks for posting about it. :)

Now mining stocks or the real thing? ... choices, choices.
 
What happens when I bump this thread July 15th?

I'm betting things are exactly as they are now. Any thoughts?
 
What happens when I bump this thread July 15th?

I'm betting things are exactly as they are now. Any thoughts?

I see this as the beginning of the end. Today Ron Paul said it may be 5 years before we lose our reserve status. I used to wonder if they would eventually "let" Ron Paul win so we, the People, could feel like we had a victory against the Fed when, in actuality, they knew all along they were doomed with their house of cards. I also find it so ironic people in Greece are fighting over austerity measures and here in the U.S. we are fighting for Ron Paul so we can take the cuts, liquidate our debt, and get it over with. Rand Paul made that point to the GOP at CPAC, i.e., look, we know we are on an unsustainable path and need to make the cuts, Ron Paul makes it palatable to young people in a way nobody else could do. He was spot on.
 
Given that China has reduced their imports from Iran by about half of what they were a year ago, this is not a particularly significant story. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-iran-oil-asiabre83m0n7-20120423,0,3175534.story

BEIJING/SEOUL (Reuters) - China halved its Iranian crude imports in March compared with a year earlier due to disputes over contract terms, its deepest cut so far this year as Western sanctions complicate Tehran's oil exports.

South Korea cut its imports by 40 percent in March from a year earlier, official data showed, as it sought to secure an exemption from U.S. sanctions. Japan, which has secured a waiver, made steep cuts in April imports.

Iran traditionally sells most of its oil exports to Asia, where China, India, Japan and South Korea are the biggest buyers. Exports were 2.3 million barrels per day (bpd) in the Iranian year to March 19.
In the first quarter of this year, China's crude imports from Iran were a third lower at 346,183 bpd compared to a year earlier, customs data showed, mainly because the state-run China Petroleum & Chemical Corp (Sinopec) slashed purchases by 285,000 bpd, or just over half of the amount it imported daily in 2011.

350,000 barrels a day is a pretty small amount. For comarison, the US consumes about 21 million barrels a day.

And at this time it is just speculation that China MAY start to buy Iranian oil with gold. There has been no official announcement from either Iran or China that this will happen though Iran has said it would accept gold (and any other currency including US dollars) in payment for oil.
 
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Really hard to say WHEN the dollar will fall. It is still pretty effective when it comes to buying stuff. But the collapse is inevitable.
 
Folks laughing at the OP didn't understand Sinclair's point. He isn't claiming that on June 28th, the dollar is instantly void. He's talking about a dynamic which is forcing large sovereigns to develop alternatives to the dollar being the death knell for it's priviliged status.
 
WOWOW... if China does this we are talking about the beginning of the end for the dollar and things can change very quickly...
 
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