GMO labeling on the Ballot in Oregon

[Natural Citizen]

This is really interesting because chemical companies from outside states have spent upwards of 25 million dollars fighting this. This is a record. And what is interesting is that we have a public vote for labeling and it's really tight. Even if they lose they've pulled off a huge fight. And one that won't go away after the night is through.


Food labeling

Would require genetically engineered foods to be labeled as such.
50.6% Reporting

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Recreational marijuana

Would legalize the sale and use of recreational marijuana.
50.6% Reporting

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[TH="class: results-name"] No
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Open primary system

Would create a top-two open primary system.
50.3% Reporting



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[Mani]

Any update?


The Label one is neck and neck.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Any update?


The Label one is neck and neck.

51.3 No

48.7 yes

62% reporting

I'm actually happy with this considering the special interest money from out of state that was dumped into the thing.25 million? Phhht. These chemical companiers are crapping bricks. It's a huge win by the people of Oregon even if it doesn't pass just because it's a trend that we see evolving and succeeding at the grassroots level. People have the right to know what they are eating. By disfranchising them it impedes their ability to choose and participate in a genuine free market. What these companies are doing is investing millions to protect themselves from the free market. And that's a fact, jack. Heh...

 

[ghengis86]

51.3 No

48.7 yes

62% reporting

WTF? What's the basis of the negative position?

 

[Brett85]

That's good news. Another government mandate voted down.

 

[Natural Citizen]

WTF? What's the basis of the negative position?

Misinformation campaign from the chemical companies. 25 million dollars worth. It's okay though. Moving forward...

 

[Mani]

Misinformation campaign from the chemical companies. 25 million dollars worth. It's okay though. Moving forward...

what kind of misinformation? Saying it will hurt the farmers or something?

 

[Natural Citizen]

what kind of misinformation? Saying it will hurt the farmers or something?

Yep. Same old misinformation. Here you go. It's discussed...

This is from tonight's mid term election coverage. Well...the coverage where the issues and ballot initiatives were actually discussed as opposed to the other legacy/corporate networks where they were just counting numbers. Heh...



Whether it passes or fails, the game is going to played from here on out. There is no stopping it. Have faith in that.

 

[mad cow]

Whether it passes or fails, the game is going to played from here on out. There is no stopping it. Have faith in that.

Oh,of that I have no doubt.Statist gonna State.

This law should cost Safeway,WalMart,Costco and such some minuscule less than one% of their profits while at the same time costing Farmer John and his roadside produce stand 85% of his profits and thus driving him out of business.

I'm sure that the big grocery concerns will pour some serious money into this the next time it comes up.
Yay mandatory labeling,enforced at gunpoint!

 

[PRB]

Misinformation campaign from the chemical companies. 25 million dollars worth. It's okay though. Moving forward...

You want government to force companies to label foods, and you dare accuse another person of misinformation

 

[oyarde]

You want government to force companies to label foods, and you dare accuse another person of misinformation

I grow , sell , buy food with no label , none needed , potatoes , onions , green beans , eggs etc still in the original package as nature intended

 

[donnay]

You want government to force companies to label foods, and you dare accuse another person of misinformation

It's already being done! Calories, carbohydrates, sodium, ingredients... Doesn't it seem rather odd that they don't want to label about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)? If they have nothing to hide what's the problem?

When I buy local, I ask the farmer right up front whether the fruits and vegetables come from organic heirloom seeds. If they stutter, or stagger in anyway with a response, I simply do not buy from them. It's pretty much that simple.

 

[Deborah K]

It's already being done! Calories, carbohydrates, sodium, ingredients... Doesn't it seem rather odd that they don't want to label about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)? If they have nothing to hide what's the problem?

When I buy local, I ask the farmer right up front whether the fruits and vegetables come from organic heirloom seeds. If they stutter, or stagger in anyway with a response, I simply do not buy from them. It's pretty much that simple.

You bet it's already being done!! This godforsaken state I live in just pulled Red Raspberry leaf supplement off the shelf because the producers are now being mandated to add in the labeling that it has trace amounts of led (no more than what's in the dirt we grow our food in, mind you). And so now, the ONE ingredient that was controlling night sweats and hot flashes for me is off the shelf until all the labels are changed. But the bastards won't label GMO food!!!

 

[Deborah K]

You want government to force companies to label foods, and you dare accuse another person of misinformation

Do you NOT see the inconsistency??? Do you NOT see that the balance is tipped in favor of the multinational corporations like Monsanto???

 

[Natural Citizen]

This law should cost Safeway,WalMart,Costco and such some minuscule less than one% of their profits while at the same time costing Farmer John and his roadside produce stand 85% of his profits and thus driving him out of business.

Farmers Abandoning GMO Seeds: Non-GMO is more profitable

 

[specsaregood]

It's already being done! Calories, carbohydrates, sodium, ingredients... Doesn't it seem rather odd that they don't want to label about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)? If they have nothing to hide what's the problem?

Do you really want to go with the "its already being done" argument in order to promote a govt mandate? Might want to think that through...

 

[Natural Citizen]

You want government to force companies to label foods, and you dare accuse another person of misinformation

Do you understand the concept of a citizens ballot initiative? The people's right to work toward building their own government at the state level? This is much like we see see with marijuana reform. I assure you that I'll waste very little time or energy with misinformation. Do you want to have this debate here? We already have a wealth of debate on it elsewhere around the board. Perhaps best to just bump and continue those. Watcha wanna do? Here or there? I have some time to kill this morning. Well...for a little while anyway.

 

[Deborah K]

Do you really want to go with the "its already being done" argument in order to promote a govt mandate? Might want to think that through...

Sometimes, in order to win, you have to play their game, and use their rules against them.

 

[Deborah K]

Do you understand the concept of a citizens initiative? The people's right to work toward building their own government at the state level? This is much like we see see with marijuana reform. I assure you that I'll waste very little time or energy with misinformation. Do you want to have this debate here? We already have a wealth of debate on it elsewhere around the board. Perhaps best to just bump and continue those. Watcha wanna do? Here or there? I have some time to kill this morning. Well...for a little while anyway.

I really don't get the inconsistency with some people - they're all over weed being LEGAL (which results in regulation and taxation of it), but don't want GMO crap to be labeled.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I really don't get the inconsistency with some people - they're all over weed being LEGAL (which results in regulation and taxation of it), but don't want GMO crap to be labeled.

Well. The thing is that the issue is ultimately going to be decided at the geo-political level anyhow. It really is a matter of foreign policy now. (If you find the time maybe check out the "Monsanto In Foreign Policy" thread in the foreign policy sub forum here.) Domestically, the people will ultimately win based upon that alone. But I do agree with you. Really, people just aren't as smart as they like to think they are and so we get more ad-hominem as a retaliatory thing as opposed to actually discussing it like big boys and girls.

You know, I was just thinking about that bill that the Koch network along with Monsanto scribbled up and paid Congressman Pompeo to try to pass through. What that did was void the people's right to ever know what they were eating and it also voided the state's ability to protect it's people from government intrusion. What this essentially did was protect these companies from the free market since people simply wouldn't have a means to choose without labels. Now we didn't hear a peep aboput this mercantilist tyranny from the folks running around yapping about statism. I thought that was funny. Got me to chuckling a bit. There's a thread around here some place about that. I made sure of it.