Glenn must be losing his base.

Israel is a sovereign nation, not a colonial protectorate. America has no right to boss her around.
 
FrankRep said:
Come on Gunny.

True or False: The Republican party tends to support/like/help/praise Israel.
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Sure they do, but they are cursing Israel through their sheer ignorance. Ron Paul is incapable of just 'making a show' when that show does more harm than good.

Israel is a sovereign nation, not a colonial protectorate. America has no right to boss her around! Our current foreign policy is a CURSE against Israel, not a blessing! No candidate running will bless Israel more than Ron Paul. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was recently in Congress nearly begging us to adopt Ron Paul's foreign policy. It's time to treat Israel like adults instead of children!

You see, I agree that we as a nation need to bless Israel in order to be blessed. The problem is, our current policy is not a blessing it is a curse. I'm willing to bet that Ron Paul understands this intuitively, even if he can't actually articulate it. Convincing Ron Paul to agree to continue cursing Israel because the conservative movement in America is too hard hearted and stiff necked to actually think it through is just not going to happen.

ETA -- think Nineva, think Jeremiah. True biblical heros with integrity are incapable of cursing in order to win popularity. I don't place Paul with the Biblical prophets, but I do recognize a common integrity.
 
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This mofo praises paul one minute then says he's does not see him qualified to be POTUS but then says Paul is on the side of the people while rest are not, WTF I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS.
 
Zippyjuan said:
Sorry. He is nnutty. Or is that nunty?
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Glenn is fucking a Mormon. If he were fucking a libertarian, he would be supporting Ron Paul. At best, he is a soft-light mirror that reflects positively the image of those surrounding him. As is, he is reflecting the religious-progressive big government movement. Glenn Beck is not mostly on board with any issue, not the Fed - not a single issue. You know that no other candidate will do even ONE of these:

1) balance the budget
2) end the Fed
3) restrict the US government to its constitutional powers (e.g., end the FDA, DEA, BATF, etc.)

Anybody who thinks Glenn is or ever has been close to supporting Ron Paul has been fooled. If you want Glenn's support, I recommend getting him off the wagon and fucking some hot libertarian chick. He won't change until he is in a different peer environment. But when the hot libertarian chick is gone or his peer group changes, so will Glenn. The guy has no fucking soul. As an atheist, you have to trust me on this one.


PS!: This is not about Mormons! It is about his peer group which is fundamentally STATIST. Israel is just an excuse, the statists will never run out of excuses for their behavior.
 
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The Free Hornet said:
Glenn is fucking a Mormon. If he were fucking a libertarian, he would be supporting Ron Paul. At best, he is a soft-light mirror that reflects positively the image of those surrounding him. As is, he is reflecting the religious-progressive big government movement. Glenn Beck is not mostly on board with any issue, not the Fed - not a single issue. You know that no other candidate will do even ONE of these:

1) balance the budget
2) end the Fed
3) restrict the US government to its constitutional powers (e.g., end the FDA, DEA, BATF, etc.)

Anybody who thinks Glenn is or ever has been close to supporting Ron Paul has been fooled. If you want Glenn's support, I recommend getting him off the wagon and fucking some hot libertarian chick. He won't change until he is in a different peer environment. But when the hot libertarian chick is gone or his peer group changes, so will Glenn. The guy has no fucking soul. As an atheist, you have to trust me on this one.


PS!: This is not about Mormons! It is about his peer group which is fundamentally STATIST. Israel is just an excuse, the statists will never run out of excuses for their behavior.
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Oh, please. :rolleyes:

http://www.cato.org/multimedia/video-highlights/david-boaz-ron-paul-vs-gary-johnson-freedom-watch
 
AuH20 said:
Beck is far from stupid, but he expects God to rescue us in the end, which is abit presumptuous. So this path for rescue is tied to an unquestioning support for Israel. So logically he's on-board with Ron Paul's solutions but he's scared to death of being on the wrong side of the Scripture.
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I think you might have it. But his idea that our interventions overseas haven't caused any blowback, is stupid.
 
Glenn Beck doesn't seem dishonest here, but perhaps a little confused.

The odd thing is that even if you accept his 'religious war' theory, a policy of non-intervention and neutrality is still the best option. It would aid Israel as well as the United States.
 
Many evangelical Christians are not for indiscriminate loyalty to Israel. Indoctrination, propaganda and preaching via a few influential persons have created followers. However the magnitude and importance of the Israel issue is overblown in the msm. The reason for the press and (republican) politicians to be so staunchly Israel first has more to do with who lobby, influence and sometimes control them. Dutch documentary, 2007, 'The Israel Lobby' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98) includes a small interview with pastor John Hagee (Christians united for Israel). Also with colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Kenneth Roth (Human Rights Watch), Tony Judt and Richard Perle explaining how it works.
 
Frysia said:
Many evangelical Christians are not for indiscriminate loyalty to Israel. Indoctrination, propaganda and preaching via a few influential persons have created followers. However the magnitude and importance of the Israel issue is overblown in the msm. The reason for the press and (republican) politicians to be so staunchly Israel first has more to do with who lobby, influence and sometimes control them. Dutch documentary, 2007, 'The Israel Lobby' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98) includes a small interview with pastor John Hagee (Christians united for Israel). Also with colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Kenneth Roth (Human Rights Watch), Tony Judt and Richard Perle explaining how it works.
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You should read Mearsheimer and Walt's book too if you haven't already. Very eye-opening.
 
this piece pissed me off a bit, just the whole, "Im Right and you're wrong Ron, segment" Bullshit, I mean even if you think you are right, you have to provide proof on why the other guy is wrong.


The laugher was "I'd trust Frothy or Michelle part" Really? I suppose he does like the "hard stance" that Frothy brings. But Bachmann, she sounds batshit crazy most of the time she talks about foreign policy. Id never trust her with Nukes.
 
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