Glenn must be losing his base.

I'll be straight foreword for you. If you don't worship Israel, you won't be elected President. How's that for a "definition" of SUPPORT?

I'm not going to give up on Ron Paul until he is in the Oval Office. How's that for support?
 
It's in Genesis, which I posted earlier in the thread. And don't forget the warnings of Zechariah, which Beck loves I might add. He and others believes this will pass:

my response:

upon my believe in Christ's death, burial and resurrection, God has made me to become a citizen of heaven (philippians 3:20), an ambassador on earth (2 Corinthians 5:20).

i should love all, just as God loved all and sent Christ to die for the sins of all. including the Israelites. God set me apart from this sinful world through Christ's death, burial and resurrection? i am now a new creation in Christ Jesus. am i now to be destroyed by God? no. i am no longer an object of God's wrath due to the salvation i find in Christ (1 Thes. 5:9).

i recognize the nation that God chose to bring forth the Savior of the world. i recognize that i am a wild olive branch that has been grafted into the Vine in this age of grace. i also do not know to mind of God, nor do i know His plans, although He knows mine and He knows my heart. and my heart is thus: to spread the Gospel of Christ throughout the nations, just as he has tasked (Romans 10:17). and to have peace in the faith that God has all of this (Israel, the US, the world, the universe) under His control and will work it out to meet His ends, even in the midst of disobedience, rebellion and unbelief.

i feel sorry for people who have come to the conclusion that they must work work work to gain salvation.
 
It's in Genesis, which I posted earlier in the thread. And don't forget the warnings of Zechariah, which Beck loves I might add. He and others believes this will pass:

Israel of the Old Testament =/= Israel of the New Testament =/= Modern Israel

All who accept Christ are Jews. They are the Spiritual Israel.
 
I am gobsmacked, struck dumb - I feel like my brain was just hit by a massive hammer. The sheer utter clusterfuck of a miserable failure of logic that is Glenn Beck in this video



makes me weep for all humanity, that it must persevere whilst surrounded by men and women who not only believe what Mr. Beck has to say, but also pay hard-earned money for the privilege of exposing themselves to this monumental idiocy.

Many in the small town I live in question why I no longer attend their 9/12 or Tea Party meetings. I never had a quick answer, no mental crossroads at which I could point to and say,

"This is why I don't listen to Beck any longer. This is why I no longer associate myself with you. You are the reason why this nation is out of control, heading for both economic and geographic collapse - you, your ignorance, your stupidity, your lack of intellectual curiosity - added to generations upon generations of people of all races and religions, living in all areas of the country, that have literally grown fat from government largess and handouts, and literally grown dumb by a process intended to re-enslave that particular portion of the American populace."

In the name of sweet almighty Jesus' sandy, sweaty jockstrap, please, Mr. Beck: shut up.

You are not Alex Jones. You are not Thomas Jefferson. You're not even me, for crissakes. We know what the CFR is. We know that Newt and Romney and Obama and McCain and Giuliani are all on the same team - it's a big fucking club, Glenn - and YOU AIN'T IN IT. Neither are we. None of us ever will be. We know that the folks I've just listed are all puppets of their corporate paymasters, and even they will never be more than golems of the NWO.

We know this. You know this too, Glenn. The only explanation of Beck's idiotic screed yesterday I can offer the world is that somehow, Mr. Beck believes that...that...that...ah, the hell with it.

I can't understand. I don't speak stupid.
 
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Eisenhower Cables Congratulations to Israel on Independence Day

JTA



WASHINGTON, Apr. 16 (JTA) –

President Eisenhower today cabled congratulations to Israel President Itzhak Ben Zvi and the people of Israel on the occasion of Israel Independence Day. "I am happy to extend to your Excellency and to the people of Israel on behalf of the people of the United States congratulations and sincere good wishes on this anniversary of the independence of Israel," Mr. Eisenhower's message stated.

Several members of the House joined today in congratulating Israel on its Independence Day and urging the United States Administration to provide arms to the Jewish State. Led by Rep. John J. Rooney, New York Democrat, several Congressmen voiced support of Israel and opposition to the Administration's policies in the Middle East. Rep. Rooney is chairman of an appropriations subcommittee in charge of State Department funds.​

April 17, 1956

Ike wasn't rude, of course he would send them that cable; President Paul might even have BB over for dinner, but BB will go home with his begging bowl empty
Ike stopped Israel, UK, France in the Suez crisis
 
That's good. That's why we're here, remember?

You comment seemed like it could be discouraging for some. You know, "Ron Paul needs to praise Israel or he's not going to win, so just give up". If that rule exists, do you have a plan to cheat?
 
I am gobsmacked, struck dumb - I feel like my brain was just hit by a massive hammer. The sheer utter clusterfuck of a miserable failure of logic that is Glenn Beck in this video



makes me weep for all humanity, that it must persevere whilst surrounded by men and women who not only believe what Mr. Beck has to say, but also pay hard-earned money for the privilege of exposing themselves to this monumental idiocy.

Many in the small town I live in question why I no longer attend their 9/12 or Tea Party meetings. I never had a quick answer, no mental crossroads at which I could point to and say,

"This is why I don't listen to Beck any longer. This is why I no longer associate myself with you. You are the reason why this nation will very likely collapse - you, your ignorance, your stupidity, your lack of intellectual curiosity, your incredible stupidity - plus generations upon generations of people of all races and religions, living in all areas of the country, that have literally grown fat from government largess and handouts, and literally grown dumb by a process intended to re-enslave that particular portion of the American populace."

In the name of sweet almighty Jesus' sandy, sweaty jockstrap, please, Mr. Beck: shut up.

You are not Alex Jones. You are not Thomas Jefferson. You're not even me, for crissakes. We know what the CFR is. We know that Newt and Romney and Obama and McCain and Giuliani are all on the same team - it's a big fucking club, Glenn - and YOU AIN'T IN IT. Neither are we. None of us ever will be. We know that the folks I've just listed are all puppets of their corporate paymasters, and even they will never be more than golems of the NWO.

We know this. You know this too, Glenn. The only explanation of Beck's idiotic screed yesterday I can offer the world is that somehow, Mr. Beck believes that...that...that...ah, the hell with it.

I can't understand. I don't speak stupid.


Beck is far from stupid, but he expects God to rescue us in the end, which is abit presumptuous. So this path for rescue is tied to an unquestioning support for Israel. So logically he's on-board with Ron Paul's solutions but he's scared to death of being on the wrong side of the Scripture.
 
I am gobsmacked, struck dumb - I feel like my brain was just hit by a massive hammer. The sheer utter clusterfuck of a miserable failure of logic that is Glenn Beck in this video



makes me weep for all humanity, that it must persevere whilst surrounded by men and women who not only believe what Mr. Beck has to say, but also pay hard-earned money for the privilege of exposing themselves to this monumental idiocy.

Many in the small town I live in question why I no longer attend their 9/12 or Tea Party meetings. I never had a quick answer, no mental crossroads at which I could point to and say,

"This is why I don't listen to Beck any longer. This is why I no longer associate myself with you. You are the reason why this nation will very likely collapse - you, your ignorance, your stupidity, your lack of intellectual curiosity, your incredible stupidity - plus generations upon generations of people of all races and religions, living in all areas of the country, that have literally grown fat from government largess and handouts, and literally grown dumb by a process intended to re-enslave that particular portion of the American populace."

In the name of sweet almighty Jesus' sandy, sweaty jockstrap, please, Mr. Beck: shut up.

You are not Alex Jones. You are not Thomas Jefferson. You're not even me, for crissakes. We know what the CFR is. We know that Newt and Romney and Obama and McCain and Giuliani are all on the same team - it's a big fucking club, Glenn - and YOU AIN'T IN IT. Neither are we. None of us ever will be. We know that the folks I've just listed are all puppets of their corporate paymasters, and even they will never be more than golems of the NWO.

We know this. You know this too, Glenn. The only explanation of Beck's idiotic screed yesterday I can offer the world is that somehow, Mr. Beck believes that...that...that...ah, the hell with it.

I can't understand. I don't speak stupid.



You should read Atlas Shrugged RIGHT NOW!
 
You should read Atlas Shrugged RIGHT NOW!

Have read it. Loved it. Consumed it like a bagful of tacos at the age of 12 - that was the first time I read it. I'll never forget the response from teachers, though: one actually confiscated my copy on the grounds that it was above my comprehension level. After verbally excoriating her before the entire class, she returned it with profanity - which I reported. She was suspended without pay. I don't remember her ever returning to our little school, come to think of it.
 
It's in Genesis, which I posted earlier in the thread. And don't forget the warnings of Zechariah, which Beck loves I might add. He and others believes this will pass:

Before Christ was crucified he said this speaking of Jerusalem: Matt.24:1-8 - "Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 'Do you see all these things?' he asked. 'I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down'"

1 Chronicles 21:15 - "And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite."

Acts 1:6-7 - "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said to them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in his own power"

Matt.24:4-8 - "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains"

Lk.19:36-46 - "Then the crowds spread out their robes along the road ahead of him, and as they reached the place where the road started down from the Mount of Olives, the whole procession began to shout and sing as they walked along, praising God for all the wonderful miracles Jesus had done. 'God has given us a King!' they exulted. 'Long live the King! Let all heaven rejoice! Glory to God in the highest heavens!' But some of the Pharisees among the crowd said, 'Sir, rebuke your followers for saying things like that!' He replied, 'If they keep quiet, the stones along the road will burst into cheers!' But as they came closer to Jerusalem and he saw the city ahead, he began to cry. 'Eternal peace was within your reach and you turned it down,' he wept, 'and now it is too late. Your enemies will pile up earth against your walls and encircle you and close in on you, and crush you to the ground, and your children within you; your enemies will not leave one stone upon another- for you have rejected the opportunity God offered you.' Then he entered the Temple and began to drive out the merchants from their stalls, saying to them, 'The Scriptures declare, My Temple is a place of prayer; but you have turned it into a den of thieves'"

Revelation 2:9 - ".... and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."
 
Beck is far from stupid, but he expects God to rescue us in the end, which is abit presumptuous. So this path for rescue is tied to an unquestioning support for Israel. So logically he's on-board with Ron Paul's solutions but he's scared to death of being on the wrong side of the Scripture.

No, Beck is demonstrably stupid. Anyone, even those I hold dear to me, that subscribes to the belief that a people are entitled to a parcel of Earth "because God said so" is, sadly, stupid. Furthermore, anyone who expects an invisible man that lives in the clouds to swoop down and smite one's enemies is also, sadly, not only stupid, but also hopeless.

Rather than arguing pointlessly with me over whether or not Mr. Beck is certifiably dumb (he is), why not discuss with the thread methods by which Ron Paul supporters can bridge the gap between ignorance and intelligence? We would be the first in recorded history to pull off that feat.

Sure, we could begin by not posing our questions in a condescending manner, but hey, fuck it - this is the internet. Sarcasm doesn't work well here. :-)
 
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No, Beck is demonstrably stupid. Anyone, even those I hold dear to me, that subscribes to the belief that a people are entitled to a parcel of Earth "because God said so" is, sadly, stupid. Furthermore, anyone who expects an invisible man that lives in the clouds to swoop down and smite one's enemies is also, sadly, not only stupid, but also hopeless.

Rather than arguing pointlessly with me over whether or not Mr. Beck is certifiably dumb (he is), why not discuss with the thread methods by which Ron Paul supporters can bridge the gap between ignorance and intelligence?

Actually, Glenn Beck just showed Ron Paul and his supporters how to win over the Republican party. Glenn Beck is not stupid.
 
Beck is far from stupid, but he expects God to rescue us in the end, which is abit presumptuous. So this path for rescue is tied to an unquestioning support for Israel. So logically he's on-board with Ron Paul's solutions but he's scared to death of being on the wrong side of the Scripture.

Aye, the problem is what is the definition of 'blessing' and what is the definition of 'cursing.'

I think our current policy, whereby we provide fungible foreign aid to help provide free state funded abortion and act like Israel is some kind of protectorate where we get to tell them what they should and should not do, is a curse. However, if we were to end all foreign aid to everywhere and treated Israel as a sovereign nation, which by the way Prime Minister Netanyahu has already been asking us to do, now that would be a blessing.

I don't disagree with the reasoning of these people here, I disagree with their conclusions. They are superficial and simplistic, and think "giving money = blessing" as if it were money, not righteousness, that is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
Actually, Glenn Beck just showed Ron Paul and his supporters how to win over the Republican party. Glenn Beck is not stupid.

Respectfully requesting that you might expand on this thought a bit. The folks of which I speak in this little town of mine reflect Beck like a mirror. Are you positing that if we can win Beck, we can win the nation? Rational thought, reasoned explanation - these are foreign concepts to devotees of Mr. Beck - THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT CRAVE TO BE LED LIKE SHEEP.

Therefore, by what logic do you propose that Beck has just shown Paul supporters the way to win over the Establishment GOP?
 
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Actually, Glenn Beck just showed Ron Paul and his supporters how to win over the Republican party. Glenn Beck is not stupid.

How, by pledging to maintain foreign aid to Israel and to continue the protectorate relationship we have burdened them with?
 
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