Glenn Beck--IT'S ON. FEMA CAMP DEBUNKING

[micahnelson]

The legislation is there, along with the legislation for the continuity of government which we haven't even seen.

I am not saying there is no threat, I am just saying the threat is heightened by alarmists. At the beginning of this movement, many claims about impending government threat were inflated out of ignorance or a desire to impress urgency on people.

Its time for that to stop. People get it.

Now its time to isolate the real threats, attack them, and provide hope and a vision for the future that doesn't involve big daddy government.

 

[constituent]

who needs "fema camps" when you've got abandoned military bases littering the countryside?

 

[fedup100]

Beck was threatened................

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread452394/pg1

 

[donnay]

Just so you know I am going to spoil tomorrows show-- it is an aerial shot of Auschwitz.

Just remember (this is for anyone who thinks Meigs debunked FEMA camps today) the Germans didn't believe Hitler would have done such horrendous things either-- until it was too late.

 

[pcosmar]

Fema camps aren't real.
Otherwise, stop making us all look like kooks.



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http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
AR 210–35 • 14 January 2005
Page 5
Chapter 1
Introduction
1–1. Purpose
This regulation provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison
camps on Army installations. Sources of civilian inmate labor are limited to on– and off–post Federal corrections
facilities, State and/or local corrections facilities operating from on–post prison camps pursuant to leases under Section
2667, Title 10, United States Code (10 USC 2667), and off–post State corrections facilities participating in the

 

[FunkBuddha]

I'm on the fence about the FEMA camps but I ahve to say that was the least convincing debunking I've ever seen. They took a small piece of evidence and put everything into it without addressing other issues. I don't understand why this segment was delayed. This wasn't even half-assed... it was more like 1/16th assed.

 

[micahnelson]

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
AR 210–35 • 14 January 2005
Page 5
Chapter 1
Introduction
1–1. Purpose
This regulation provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison
camps on Army installations. Sources of civilian inmate labor are limited to on– and off–post Federal corrections
facilities, State and/or local corrections facilities operating from on–post prison camps pursuant to leases under Section
2667, Title 10, United States Code (10 USC 2667), and off–post State corrections facilities participating in the

So the labor performed by prisoners can be performed for the Army, as opposed to the Department of Transportation.

I'm not seeing FEMA in there anywhere, no KBR, no shackle-traincars, no operation roundemallup...

I just see the army trying to cut its budget using inmates to paint or mow grass or whatever on army bases.

 

[jmdrake]

The legislation is there, along with the legislation for the continuity of government which we haven't even seen.

I am not saying there is no threat, I am just saying the threat is heightened by alarmists. At the beginning of this movement, many claims about impending government threat were inflated out of ignorance or a desire to impress urgency on people.

Its time for that to stop. People get it.

Now its time to isolate the real threats, attack them, and provide hope and a vision for the future that doesn't involve big daddy government.

Well that's one way to look at it. The other is that the shadow government backed down after it was clear the alarm was raised. Several times during the current administration trial balloons have gone up and the administration backed down after a loud outcry. For instance there was the "tax by mile" proposal put forward by the transportation secretary. There was the "mandatory service exploratory committee" that was in the bill - then out the bill - then in a supplemental bill - then...who knows?

As for the proof you say you want, just look at the mass detention facility that used at the 2004 RNC to house those who violated the "free speech zones".

As for the thread topic, Glenn Beck clearly isn't trustworthy. But I totally agree with the sentiment that we can use his current "conversion" to our advantage. If he turns out to be genuine (which I doubt) great. If not then there won't be any damage as long as people are smart enough to not actually join his organization and/or send him any money.

 

[AuH20]

I'm on the fence about the FEMA camps but I ahve to say that was the least convincing debunking I've ever seen. They took a small piece of evidence and put everything into it without addressing other issues. I don't understand why this segment was delayed. This wasn't even half-assed... it was more like 1/16th assed.

Agreed.

 

[paulitics]

In the long run, all that matters is the legislation and the path our country is heading towards. This is such a straw man by debunking whether camps are in use today.

 

[jmdrake]

So the labor performed by prisoners can be performed for the Army, as opposed to the Department of Transportation.

I'm not seeing FEMA in there anywhere, no KBR, no shackle-traincars, no operation roundemallup...

I just see the army trying to cut its budget using inmates to paint or mow grass or whatever on army bases.

I see a frog boiling...slowly.

 

[micahnelson]

As for the proof you say you want, just look at the mass detention facility that used at the 2004 RNC to house those who violated the "free speech zones".

So we protest those things.

Those things are REAL. Protesting real things is something normal people do, and will join in with you to do. Protesting imaginary detention facilities that might happen someday maybe seems like a waste of deeply needed credibility.

 

[Oyate]

The legislation is there, along with the legislation for the continuity of government which we haven't even seen.

Dang son, maybe you should look at little harder. The series of executive orders isn't imagination, there are there, they are real.

I am not saying there is no threat, I am just saying the threat is heightened by alarmists. At the beginning of this movement, many claims about impending government threat were inflated out of ignorance or a desire to impress urgency on people.

We've been saying economic collapse is coming and it's inevitable. All the while Greenspan and the gang were telling us everything was PEACHY-KEENO. The ONLY thing inflating is the currency.

Its time for that to stop. People get it.

Now its time to isolate the real threats, attack them, and provide hope and a vision for the future that doesn't involve big daddy government.

I TOTALLY AGREE IN PRINCIPLE. However, Glenn Beck "debunking" these concerns before people even do their own research, that is a problem.

Do you want people to become interested and do their research or take Glenn Beck's word for it?

 

[micahnelson]

I see a frog boiling...slowly.

And I see little boy calling wolf...frequently.

 

[AuH20]

Beck was threatened................

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread452394/pg1

Glenn Beck has a bodyguard that drives him back and forth to his New Canaan home. Very interesting.

 

[donnay]

And I see little boy calling wolf...frequently.

Your description is what I see in Glenn Beck.

He is simply poisoning the well.

 

[dannno]

Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
AR 210–35 • 14 January 2005
Page 5
Chapter 1
Introduction
1–1. Purpose
This regulation provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison
camps on Army installations. Sources of civilian inmate labor are limited to on– and off–post Federal corrections
facilities, State and/or local corrections facilities operating from on–post prison camps pursuant to leases under Section
2667, Title 10, United States Code (10 USC 2667), and off–post State corrections facilities participating in the

So the labor performed by prisoners can be performed for the Army, as opposed to the Department of Transportation.

I'm not seeing FEMA in there anywhere, no KBR, no shackle-traincars, no operation roundemallup...

I just see the army trying to cut its budget using inmates to paint or mow grass or whatever on army bases.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Please read again.

How are we supposed to take you seriously when you say things that are obviously wrong?

I mean, you are trying to say that labor performed by prisoners can be performed for the army, but the legislation clearly says that the army will now be establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prisons. We don't have those right now that I'm aware of.

..Yet that isn't what you said, you said something completely different yet I literally just copied and pasted from the legislation. Are you trying to confuse people here who are not reading the legislation thoroughly or is it your reading comprehension that needs work??

 

[jmdrake]

So we protest those things.

Those things are REAL. Protesting real things is something normal people do, and will join in with you to do. Protesting imaginary detention facilities that might happen someday maybe seems like a waste of deeply needed credibility.

You don't get it. The 2004 RNC detention facility IS real! It didn't become "imaginary" when they quit using it!

 

[jmdrake]

And I see little boy calling wolf...frequently.

That would be you.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

You're aware that most C4L people and Paul supporters aren't conspiracy theorists, right? Perhaps the 1% who think shit like FEMA camps are a real threat will be put off, but, well, I kinda hope they get put off enough to leave the movement anyway.

If there is only 1% then we are a pretty damn stupid movement. What happened to Americans of Japanese descent in WWII?

If you think no one in government has not planned for a worse case economic disaster and means to subdue and control the population in such an event your an idiot.

It was wrong when we did it to Americans of Japanese decent. It is wrong today. It is wrong to plan for it or consider it as an option.