Glenn Beck: I'm Done With Establishment Republicans, I Support Constitutonalists Like Rand

[erowe1]

shortsighted libertarians. No one has to like Glenn Beck or subscribe to his channel but the extreme hate, given the many other pressing matters, is pretty baffling. Glenn Beck isn't the problem. It's the psychopaths entrenched in the two-party duopoly that will be undoing of us.

Beck worked hard to earn every bit of the hate he has here.

 

[AuH20]

Beck worked hard to earn every bit of the hate he has here.

In large part because he retalliated against the truther contingent. Beck acted just as childish as his detractors. And then the feud started. Then enter the Alex Jones factor and it's the Hatfields and the McCoys. I'm an open-minded person who isn't hyper-sensitive to comments. If you're paddling in the anti-establishment direction, I'll support you. That goes for Alex Jones, Adam Kokesh and whomever. I don't have the time nor energy to create more enemies when Godzilla is stomping down the boulevard.

 

[cajuncocoa]

shortsighted libertarians. No one has to like Glenn Beck or subscribe to his channel but the extreme hate, given the many other pressing matters, is pretty baffling. Glenn Beck isn't the problem. It's the psychopaths entrenched in the two-party duopoly that will be undoing of us.

Beck implied that Ron Paul supporters are terrorists. I don't suffer asshats.

 

[twomp]

Why do I feel like I am on a msnbc forum here?

FUCK ALL OF YOU who say FUCK GLENN BECK.

FUCK GLENN BECK! He has trashed Ron Paul AND his supporters which if you haven't noticed includes us. If he wants to support Rand Paul, that's all good. Any support is better then no support but it doesn't mean we forget what he's done in the past. He is a tyrant in liberty clothing. He supports HIS version of libertarians.

This is meant towards Glenn Beck NOT his listeners so I don't see why you are so offended? Maybe there is a better forum for you out there where you can cheer the man on but you are on the wrong website if you think we have forgotten what he has done and said TOWARDS US.

 

[AuH20]

Beck implied that Ron Paul supporters are terrorists. I don't suffer asshats.

Do you know how much hate mail Beck received???????? Death threats, bomb threats............ Do you think he just created this classification out of thin air??????? Beck acted like a petulant child but do you really believe he did that without provocation??????? Cmon. People need to grow up. And this applies to Beck as well as the most ardent 911ers who went out of their way to terrorize Beck.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

In large part because he retalliated against the truther contingent. Beck acted just as childish as his detractors. And then the feud started. Then enter the Alex Jones factor and it's the Hatfields and the McCoys. I'm an open-minded person who isn't hyper-sensitive to comments. If you're paddling in the anti-establishment direction, I'll support you. That goes for Alex Jones, Adam Kokesh and whomever. I don't have the time nor energy to create more enemies when Godzilla is stomping down the boulevard.

That assumes Beck IS paddling in the anti-establishment direction. I used to think so, but I no longer do. I am utterly convinced that he exists to try and draw naive "freedom minded people" into the establishment fold in order to maintain the status quo at all costs.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Do you know how much hate mail Beck received???????? Death threats, bomb threats............ Do you think he just created this classification out of thin air??????? Beck acted like a petulant child but do you really believe he did that without provocation??????? Cmon. People need to grow up. And this applies to Beck as well as the most ardent 911ers who went out of their way to terrorize Beck.

Yes, that hate mail came out of thin air, it had nothing to do with Beck calling Paul a terrorist. Nothing at all. Go back to sleep, we have everything under control...

 

[cajuncocoa]

Do you know how much hate mail Beck received???????? Death threats, bomb threats............ Do you think he just created this classification out of thin air??????? Beck acted like a petulant child but do you really believe he did that without provocation??????? Cmon. People need to grow up. And this applies to Beck as well as the most ardent 911ers who went out of their way to terrorize Beck.

I wonder if that hate mail came before or after the video I linked above? If before, he certainly did nothing to quell the tide by calling us terrorists.

 

[AuH20]

Yes, that hate mail came out of thin air, it had nothing to do with Beck calling Paul a terrorist. Nothing at all. Go back to sleep, we have everything under control...

It actually occurred far before that. The seeds of this antagonistic relationship were planted long before. Jones and Beck both have huge egos. And Jones naturally pitted his audience against Beck's for obvious reasons. And then Beck went out of his way to discredit Jones. It's just ugly all around.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

It actually occurred far before that. The seeds of this antagonistic relationship were planted long before. Jones and Beck both have huge egos. And Jones naturally pitted his audience against Beck's for obvious reasons. And then Beck went out of his way to discredit Jones. It's just ugly all around.

I was there. I actually watched Beck at the time, and my recollection is dramatically different from yours.

ETA - and no, I have nothing whatever to do with Jones, and I never have.

 

[AuH20]

I was there. I actually watched Beck at the time, and my recollection is dramatically different from yours.

ETA - and no, I have nothing whatever to do with Jones, and I never have.

We're dealing with two man-children who want to be top dog. They then dispatch their audience to do their bidding and create this unproductive shooting war.

 

[twomp]

Glenn Beck helped discredit the Tea Party. The group that he now wants to distance himself from. He is now working on the libertarians. That man is a parasite.

 

[AuH20]

I was there. I actually watched Beck at the time, and my recollection is dramatically different from yours.

ETA - and no, I have nothing whatever to do with Jones, and I never have.

But that is where the thrust of the hate came from. And then Beck being the immature douche he is, anted up and went out of his way to counter Jones. And the ping-pong game was afoot.

 

[RockEnds]

That assumes Beck IS paddling in the anti-establishment direction. I used to think so, but I no longer do. I am utterly convinced that he exists to try and draw naive "freedom minded people" into the establishment fold in order to maintain the status quo at all costs.

I agree.

 

[jmdrake]

But like you already admitted, she doesn't shove it down anyone's throat, at least not using state force. Not one of your complaints against her have involved her shoving anything down anyone's throat. The entirety of your opposition to her in this thread has revolved around what her personal religious convictions are.

The "no such thing as marital rape" line is another one. So what if she thinks that (and I'm not familiar with the debate, or whether or not she does)? Do you think the states should treat what husbands do to their wives the same way they treat rape between unmarried people? If not, then your position is probably the same as Schafly's. And once again, your whole problem with her is that she takes the same policy position as you, but bases it on the wrong personal religious views.

Well looks like I came late to this thread that apparently got Confederate banned. I will say this. I went to a liberal law school (are there any that aren't), and once we went over the hair trigger that is rape law in some states, even the most liberal feminists in the class felt at least a little squeamish about applying the same standard for rape inside marriage to rape in general. I'm not talking about the obvious "Man with knife ties woman up and has his way with her" rape. No. We read a case where a man was convicted of rape when the admitted facts were the woman invited him into her bed, let him get on top, and then said no once he had started penetration. He was convicted of rape for not pulling out fast enough! While these feminist women were bothered by this, a little, they still felt "no" should apply in that situation. But in the case of a married couple? Well...they weren't so sure. It seemed like it would be too easy for an angry wife to set her husband up for a rape charge. Anyhow, if someone's marriage is so toxic that the marriage bed becomes a potential crime scene it's time for a divorce.

 

[Article V]

Glenn Beck helped discredit the Tea Party. The group that he now wants to distance himself from.

Please defend this claim when Beck just had a black-tie Tea Party special on his tv show two weeks ago.

 

[Article V]

Beck implied that Ron Paul supporters are terrorists. I don't suffer asshats.

Did you read the transcript? Beck said quite specifically that he felt the "vast majority" of Ron Paul supporters "get it"; but that he feared "some of the fringe supporters" might take the word 'revolution' a bit too seriously especially when bolstered by Guy Fawkes imagery.

I wasn't a fan of that clip, but I didn't for one minute think Beck thought Ron Paul supporters are terrorists.

 

[Article V]

I don't listen to Glenn enough to have a specific policy beef. He and the other conservative pundits agree with me many times on issues related to shrinking the size of gov't. Candidate support is the critical piece of the puzzle. If we talk about shrinking gov't and then support, nominate, vote for, and elect, candidates who won't work to implement what we favor, then we get exactly nowhere or worse.

So basically you put Beck outside the circle of trust as a libertarian because he chose to endorse a candidate other than Ron Paul. Personally, knowing Beck's policy beliefs, I never thought he'd endorse Ron Paul; but I have to admit that Beck is still a libertarian. And I like to think that Beck's years of daily support for libertarian policy is more beneficial than any fleeting candidate endorsement which most people aren't influenced by anyway. Voters vote based off policy and personality; if Beck teaches voters libertarian policy and voters identify with a candidate's personality, then Beck's endorsement or non-endorsement is irrelevant and his libertarian teaching is a net positive for our movement.

The guy's not evil; he's just not as libertarian as all of us.

 

[Article V]

Well looks like I came late to this thread that apparently got Confederate banned.

He got banned? For what? I didn't notice anything incendiary enough for anyone to get banned.

 

[cajuncocoa]

If Beck is a libertarian, then I am Miss America.