Glenn Beck supported Ron Paul, except on Foreign Policy. That was the deal breaker for him.
Glenn Beck: I'm Done With Establishment Republicans, I Support Constitutonalists Like Rand
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Considering that foreign policy is benefitting no one but the Military Industrial Complex, and is bankrupting the nation, the fact that Beck supports it would be a deal breaker for me--even if Beck didn't Beckstab us every election year.
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Best line of the video was when Glenn referenced the purist element of libertarianism and said (paraphrasing) that they believe in maximum freedom, except when you disagree with them, then you cannot be part of the camp.
Yeah, but he never said that he would support Ron for President, which was my point. It's not like Beck said that he was going to support Ron's run for President and then later changed his mind and decided not to support him.
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Beck is a Jacksonian in his FP views. Reagan and Goldwater were Jacksonian as well - both of whom were supported by Ron Paul.
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Rand's views on foreign policy are certainly not the same as Ron's, but do you think they are so different (and if so, how?) that Glenn Beck will continue to support Rand?
In either case, Rand Paul's foreign policy is more in line with Glenn Beck's.
Maybe it even comes down to the fact that Rand Paul knows how to speak Conservative.
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Our current state of military adventurism is far beyond Jacksonian. We've gone full-bore Lyndon Baines Johnsonian. Ron Paul sees this. We all see this. Why can't (or why won't) Beck?
Beck said that his foreign policy views were somewhere in the middle between Ron Paul and Rick Santorum, which makes it sound like Rand will be his ideal candidate.
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I read that glen resents being rejected on libertarian websites. Which ones does he read?
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You think that is the best part? It doesn't even make sense...
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Well then you apparently haven't been paying attention. Beck has a 100% record of supporting our guy until the election when he decides everyone MUST support the establishmentarian. It's not like he does it half the time or most of the time. This is what he does ALL of the time. 100%. He has never once behaved differently. Expecting him to all the sudden (secretly, apparently) change when he is behaving identical to the last 5 years is lunacy.
How many times does a guy have to pretend to be your friend just long enough to stab you in the back until you figure out that he's not a friend? Ten times? A dozen?
This guy is poison. Mark my words. I was the guy in your shoes in 2009 and 2011. It's not like this behavior is in any way new for Beck.
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You have maximum freedom to call a pig a cow, but that doesn't make it so.
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And if we let RINOs into the club, we might as well let Greens in too, because we no longer stand for anything at all.
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Makes perfect sense, and is evidenced on this site daily.
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That's a pretty wide range! "Somewhere in the middle" of such a wide range is about as vague as one can be. I have a feeling this "somewhere" point is closer to Ricky than to Ron. I still think Beck moves back into the Santorum camp if RS decides to run.
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Then why have I never seen a concensus on this site regarding, for example, immigration?
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I hope he reads this one. I hope he reads this thread. I was the guy defending him for 3.5 years. Just ask others on RPF's. His track record is undeniable. "Two years to the election? I'm your best friend!! Two months to the election? VOTE ESTABLISHMENT OR DIE!"
Every time.
not 90% of the time
EVERY time.
How many times do we have to go through this before we get a clue?
I won't believe that Beck is waking up until he repents for the scores of times he's already don this to us.
Beck is one of the primary reasons we have not been able to form a real antiestablishment coalition in America.
Beck is one of the primary reasons the establishment is still in control.
Maybe some folks trust him that he's turned a new leaf (what's this, like the 10th new leaf now?) but it doesn't take me getting burned ten times before I figure out the stove is hot.
