Glenn Beck has "had it up to here" with us (Ron Paul Supporters)

[CaptLouAlbano]

The anonymity of the internet feeds into this devil may care attitude and it contibutes to this rabid lack of civility. For all the energy and ethusiasm our movement brings to the table there is a element that is bordeline fanatical. It's a double edged sword and we've seen it happen numerous times in the public square (e.g. chasing down Hannity and pelting him with snowballs, the boorish, uncouth behavior at political events, etc.).

Good point. I saw a statement posted somewhere at one time that made me laugh. It said (and I paraphrase), years ago we had insane asylums, today those same people post on the internet.

Well folks, hope you all have a good day, but I am logging off and going to try and get a few things done. Take care.

 

[Carlybee]

The anonymity of the internet feeds into this devil may care attitude and it contibutes to this rabid lack of civility. For all the positive energy and ethusiasm our movement brings to the table there is an element that is bordeline fanatical. It's a double edged sword and we've seen it unravel numerous times in the public square (e.g. chasing down Hannity and pelting him with snowballs, the boorish, uncouth behavior at political events, etc.).

Yes because nothing says fanatical like throwing a snowball...as opposed to say using your position in the media to push neverending war and propping up fascist ideology.

 

[TheGrinch]

The anonymity of the internet feeds into this devil may care attitude and it contibutes to this rabid lack of civility. For all the positive energy and ethusiasm our movement brings to the table there is an element that is bordeline fanatical. It's a double edged sword and we've seen it unravel numerous times in the public square (e.g. chasing down Hannity and pelting him with snowballs, the boorish, uncouth behavior at political events, etc.).

Liberty is popular. That means having to side with some you might not like. Get over it, because you seem to want to sling more blame at a fringe minority than a guy who's painting us all as fanatical delusional terrorists because we won't fall in line with the guy who cheated us. People like Beck exist to paint narratives, or there's no reason he shouldn't be kissing our ass like the rest of establishment and media isn't.

Did he report on the cheating? Has he ever given us a fair shake? Was he a part of co-opting and destroying the tea-party with establishment hacks? Fuck him then.

 

[AuH20]

Yes because nothing says fanatical like throwing a snowball...as opposed to say using your position in the media to push neverending war and propping up fascist ideology.

Beck doesn't push fascism. And he's not a proponent for neverending war. He has a religious based connection to Israel, which I personally disagree with. I don't see the propping up of Israel as a primary national security objective, despite what the Scripture says. He believes it is part of God's plan, which many evangelicals subscribe to. This belief doesn't necessarily make them evil people.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Good grief, LE.

What? I only said the truth and you know it.

I am not defending what Beck did. I couldn't stand him for it. But that doesn't change the fact that there are some people out there, who at the very least, do not demonstrate good judgement.

 

[Mini-Me]

Everyone sees weird stuff in their sleep.

 

[georgiaboy]

georgiaboy,

I think the answer is because Beck sees Obama as so incredibly bad for this country that even the worst possible GOP nominee is better than Obama. He may have a point, because given Obama's background and true beliefs a second term could very well be disastrous. It won't change my vote (or lack thereof), but it is inconsequential here in SC as Romney will win the state by 10 points or more. If I was in a swing state, I might be thinking differently, because although I do not like Romney, I really detest Obama.

Sorry, Lou, this gives Glenn room to call me deranged for voting differently? You said yourself that deference should be exercised.

I just tend to respect anyone for their beliefs even if they are completely the opposite of mine. I guess I just come from a different generation than most here.

Goes both ways. Of the millions of RP supporters out there, what percent show respect for others' beliefs vs not? What percent at the RNC convention acted out of respect for the rules and the process? What percent of the RNC treated the RP supporters from a place of respect? How respectful of RP supporter beliefs was Glenn?

Understand, I believe in giving respect regardless of whether its given to me, but that doesn't mean Glenn's behavior, to a nationwide audience, is justified.

 

[sparebulb]

(e.g. chasing down Hannity and pelting him with snowballs, the boorish, uncouth behavior at political events, etc.).

Beck neocon spin.

Hannity was neither "chased" or "pelted". He chose to run away and hide behind a girl to enter a building. No snowballs ever connected with him or his people.

You choose to always criticize Ron Paul supporters. You have been a perfect Beck activist.

 

[Carlybee]

Beck doesn't push fascism. And he's not a proponent for neverending war. He has a religious based connection to Israel, which I personally disagree with. I don't see the propping up of Israel as a primary national security objective, despite what the Scripture says. He believes it is part of God's plan, which many evangelicals subscribe to. This belief doesn't necessarily make them evil people.

Which results in the push for neverending war because Israel will never reconcile withe the rest of the middle east and the evangelicals will continue to prop up Israel and starting wars without congressional approval is fascist by design, ergo Beck supports it. I've listened to that jackass for years..anything that sounds libertarian in his rhetoric is a facade. He is as rah rah as they get and equates patriotism with gettin those islamo fascists. Does he hold "some" liberty positions? Yes but he seems to be arbitrary on a lot of issues.

 

[cajuncocoa]

You choose to always criticize Ron Paul supporters. You have been a perfect Beck activist.

There are a few like that in this thread...one wonders why they joined the Ron Paul Forums.

 

[DGambler]

There are a few like that in this thread...one wonders why they joined the Ron Paul Forums.

You know why, the same reasons some hardcore RP on here go and post on Hannity's forums or other forums. The one thing that irks me is that some of these people think that just by them being here that they should automatically be considered a RP supporter with just a different point of view.

I welcome and enjoy spirited debate, but you have to look at issues through the lenses of personal liberty first, a lot of these guys don't.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Guys, he just needs a little more time. He's turning the corner.

 

[LibertyEagle]

There are a few like that in this thread...one wonders why they joined the Ron Paul Forums.

When was it ever a prerequisite to not tell the truth in order to be a Ron Paul supporter?

 

[LibertyEagle]

You know why, the same reasons some hardcore RP on here go and post on Hannity's forums or other forums. The one thing that irks me is that some of these people think that just by them being here that they should automatically be considered a RP supporter with just a different point of view.

I welcome and enjoy spirited debate, but you have to look at issues through the lenses of personal liberty first, a lot of these guys don't.

With liberty, comes responsibility. And that includes recognizing that some of the things that a few supporters have done has not been helpful to our efforts.

 

[bubbleboy]

GB can burn in hell.

 

[NEPatriot]

Isn't politics the art of compromise?

Well, we didn't get #&@^ so neither do you.

We didn't become Ron Paul supporters by being idiots in your audience who need to be spoon fed opinions by people on television or radio.

Gary Johnson for spite.

Live with it.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I just tend to respect anyone for their beliefs even if they are completely the opposite of mine. I guess I just come from a different generation than most here.

No, you don't. You just said you detest Obama. The only difference between you and the people on the forum you look down on is that your division of outsider-insider, like-hate is along more mainstream lines. It's acceptable to you to detest Democrats. And it's baffling to you that Republicans could detest Republicans. But really it's just drawing the lines in different places, in what is, in fact, a Ron Paul-inspired way. It's drawing the lines to define the topography of Liberty vs. Tyranny rather than Republican vs. Democrat.

 

[cajuncocoa]

When was it ever a prerequisite to not tell the truth in order to be a Ron Paul supporter?

Some seem to have a disproportionate distaste for Ron Paul supporters. That is also true. Just sayin'.

 

[DGambler]

No, you don't. You just said you detest Obama. The only difference between you and the people on the forum you look down on is that your division of outsider-insider, like-hate is along more mainstream lines. It's acceptable to you to detest Democrats. And it's baffling to you that Republicans could detest Republicans. But really it's just drawing the lines in different places, in what is, in fact, a Ron Paul-inspired way. It's drawing the lines to define the topography of Liberty vs. Tyranny rather than Republican vs. Democrat.

+Rep, that is the most clear and concise way that I've seen it articulated, may I borrow it and spread it far and wide?

 

[cajuncocoa]

No, you don't. You just said you detest Obama. The only difference between you and the people on the forum you look down on is that your division of outsider-insider, like-hate is along more mainstream lines. It's acceptable to you to detest Democrats. And it's baffling to you that Republicans could detest Republicans. But really it's just drawing the lines in different places, in what is, in fact, a Ron Paul-inspired way. It's drawing the lines to define the topography of Liberty vs. Tyranny rather than Republican vs. Democrat.

I agree wholeheartedly with this....+rep