Glenn Beck evolving?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

As far as relevance, there are only two talk show hosts, in that format, that command a bigger audience, Rush & Hannity.

We don't have a bunch of Limbaugh and Hannity threads.

 

[Cap]

Maybe we should give him his own sub-forum. /s

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

We don't have a bunch of Limbaugh and Hannity threads.

Well, Limbaugh rarely has guests on his program. Hannity has a lot, but our folks are rarely on there. If Rand was on Hannity and mentioned on the show quite often, I suspect there would be a lot more discussion of him.

Additionally, there are some here that are incensed that Beck is describing himself as a "libertarian". Personally, I don't care what label anyone chooses, since I never had my political affiliation tattooed on my ass, so I do not care what label someone uses to describe themselves.

 

[Article V]

All the Paulers I saw at OWS were trying to educate those misguided souls. They were imploring them that they were protesting the symptoms and not the cause.

Having been at OWS and having been a moderator of many Ron Paul Facebook groups, I can assure you that early on in OWS many Ron Paul supporters were not there to educate; they honestly joined OWS thinking it was a movement against Wall Street cronyism.

I had to write several letters to the owners of the Facebook groups I moderated to implore them not to support OWS so quickly because, being so close to it and having watched it develop through the progressive political machine long before any feet were actually on the ground, I knew that the OWS movement was actually nothing more than a violent tool of the left. Once that reality became clear, THEN many early Ron Paul supporters left OWS while some others chose to stay to educate because of the unlikely friendships they made. But in the early phases of OWS, many gullible Ron Paul supporters were sucked in and helped inadvertently tarnish some aspects of the R3volution. Heck, the V for Vendetta imagery of OWS came from those early Ron Paul supporters, and because of them that imagery is now permanently associated with violence, chaos, and stuck-up leftist progressives who hate capitalism.

Sad but true.

 

[Article V]

I think Rubio is done.

This is so ignorant it's laughable. Rubio hasn't even come close to peaking; he is a rising force.

 

[XTreat]

I voted for George W. Bush while I was IN Iraq in 2004.

I used to argue until I was blue in the face that we needed to fight the terrorists over there so we wouldn't have to fight them here.

I maintained this position until about 2008-2009.

Can I be in your group?

 

[vita3]

My advice on: Let this swindler do his profit thing & leave him behind

 

[compromise]

This is so ignorant it's laughable. Rubio hasn't even come close to peaking. Rubio will be a rising force that will have to be tamed, educated, or defeated.

I think she was talking about Rubio from Beck's point of view, in which case she's probably correct. But among most GOP primary voters, Rubio will be a far stronger candidate than Santorum.

 

[Article V]

Rand will blow Santorum out of the race in the first month, despite Frothy playing the terror card and the drug card. I don't think Frothy can begin to compete with Rand in a debate. I worry about someone like Jeb far more than Frothy.

Santorum will not seek the nomination. He will instead align himself early on via endorsements, use his base and influence to gain attention and power, then try to parlay that into a VP nod or a much more likely Cabinet seat. This is so obvious it's textbook.

 

[XTreat]

He still thinks of anarchists as people who support complete chaos, which is how anarchists are viewed by the majority of people on earth. This isn't exactly Beck's fault. Because of the way the word "anarchy" has evolved in the English language, Beck hasn't quite learned the more conservative, legitimate, pragmatic political philosophy of anarchism that classical anarchists support. At some point, if they ever want to be heard and understood by Beck or society-at-large, classical anarchists will likely have to change the word that identifies them (in the same way classical liberals in America eventually had to call themselves libertarians) if they ever want to break through the noise progressive chaos-creators have formed around the term "anarchy."

He is friends with and listens to Penn Jillete, whom most of us agree is pretty legit, I think he just disregards anarchy for the same reason many of us did/do. It takes time to educate yourself and convince yourself its possible and practical.

 

[Article V]

Religious fundamentalism plays well in Iowa. The last election cycles have proven this with Huckabee and Santorum.

How shallow is your knowledge of political history? Pat Robertson and Jimmy Carter proved it long before Huckabee or Santorum. Huckabee's and Santorum's strategic focus on Iowa was purely because of the success Robertson and Carter had years before. The only thing that has changed over the years in Iowa is their ever-growing government subsidies income and their political tyranny over the other 49 states in the union.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

The only thing that has changed over the years in Iowa is their ever-growing government subsidies income and their political tyranny over the other 49 states in the union.

Is it really tyranny when their choices aren't winning? Robertson, Huckabee and Santorum were all duds, and didn't go on to win the GOP nomination despite what Iowa wanted.

 

[Article V]

I'm on mobile, so I can't check... those "supporting" Beck in this thread, what are their join dates?

Yeah! Let's seek out and attack anyone who supports Beck! They're witches! BURN THEM ALL!

 

[Article V]

Is it really tyranny when their choices aren't winning? Robertson, Huckabee and Santorum were all duds, and didn't go on to win the GOP nomination despite what Iowa wanted.

Yes, it really is: their choices and forceful efforts to be first always have an unnatural impact of narrowing the race and limiting the choices of the rest of the nation. It's one of the destructive impacts of subsequent decision-making; and subsequent decision-making, especially when the same group always votes first, is a breeding ground for bad decision-making in a complex decision market.

 

[FrankRep]

And Glenn Beck is the reason Judge Napolitano got his own "Freedom Watch" show on Fox Business. Too bad Judge Nap wasn't able to keep the show after Beck left Fox.

Why does Glenn Beck hate the Freedom Movement so much that he helped Judge Napolitano get his own show? See we can't trust him.

 

[Working Poor]

By the time the election rolls around he will be for who ever Bush/Cheney backs. Whoever he starts talking about first is going to be the one he crusifies

 

[FrankRep]

By the time the election rolls around he will be for who ever Bush/Cheney backs. Whoever he starts talking about first is going to be the one he crusifies

No. Glenn Beck calls George Bush a Progressive and compared him to Obama. If you're going to attack Glenn Beck, at least accurate information.


Glenn Beck calls Bush a ‘progressive,’ says Obama is doing ‘exactly’ the same thing

Glenn Beck Claims that George W. Bush and John McCain Are Progressives

 

[July]

Interesting thread....

I think, if he is really truly "evolving" or not, it will be apparent when the time comes.

But just from a purely objective standpoint, it was my feeling during the 2012 campaign that whenever we would get angry and upset over some media smear or blog article, our negative commentary would often feed into conservative fears that we were "militant" or trying to "destroy the party" and "needed to be stopped" at all costs. There is a grain of truth to that. If we attacked the reporters and called them names, they'd retaliate with another hit piece on Ron. Then we'd react again emotionally, and they'd suggest to conservatives that were were a threat to the party and trying to create chaos. Conservatives then, in a vain attempt to protect "their party" from an outside threat, did everything they could to shut out the young and passionate Ron Paul supporters....shooting themselves in the foot in the process. So if nothing else, there is a lesson to be learned from that.

 

[Todd]

If you mean he has evolved into what Goebbels predicated his theory of how to efffectively sling propaganda, then I agree.....he has evolved.

 

[DGambler]

Yeah! Let's seek out and attack anyone who supports Beck! They're witches! BURN THEM ALL!

Did I say that? No, I was interested if there was a trend.