Glenn Beck absolutely trashing Rand Paul

Glenn, Pat, and Stu, the good cop bad cop game. I remember those swine cackling about Debra Medina, and Glenn talking about how he could french kiss Rick Perry.
 
Brian4Liberty said:
I actually listened to the clip, and I didn't get that impression at all. It was more like a discussion that might occur right here on RPF than an "absolute trashing".
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The sugar is still there. It will continue to be. Until, it is not. Usually, at a crucial junction. Such is Beck.

F*ck Beck.
 
Brian4Liberty said:
I actually listened to the clip, and I didn't get that impression at all. It was more like a discussion that might occur right here on RPF than an "absolute trashing".
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I don't follow Beck too closely. My expectations were that he was a libertarian and very supportive of Rand. His co-host was uncertain if he would vote for Rand vs Hillary. And he said he thought Rand was an establishment Republican Too me those a shocking things for a libertarian to say. His co-host compared him to Nancy Pelosi.

I guess I take it as a bigger deal when they pre-endorse Ted Cruz over Rand before the election has even started. Glenn Beck explicitly said that Cruz is the better choice. To me that seems like a major deal. But, I'm approaching it from the view that I expected Beck to be a strong ally instead of a tepid non-enemy
 
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Krugminator2 said:
I don't follow Beck too closely. My expectations were that he was a libertarian and very supportive of Rand. His co-host was uncertain if he would vote for Rand vs Hillary. And he said he thought Rand was an establishment Republican Too me those a shocking things for a libertarian to say. His co-host compared him to Nancy Pelosi.

I guess I take it as a bigger deal when they pre-endorse Ted Cruz over Rand before the election has even started. Glenn Beck explicitly said that Cruz is the better choice. To me that seems like a major deal. But, I'm approaching it from the view that I expected Beck to be a strong ally instead of a tepid non-enemy
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The good news is that they eliminated everyone except for Rand and Cruz, and spent the majority of the time talking about Rand.

Yes, Beck and especially his co-host are more of what I call "teo-cons". They are libertarian leaning, yet still retain the neoconservative foreign policy stances. Thus their preference for Cruz, who is the same way.
 
William Tell said:
Glenn, Pat, and Stu, the good cop bad cop game. I remember those swine cackling about Debra Medina, and Glenn talking about how he could french kiss Rick Perry.
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You ever listened to the interview Ron did with Pat before he was Beck's sidekick? At the beginning of his 2008 presidential run?
It will tell you all you ever need to know about Pat and anybody that would hire him.
 
specsaregood said:
You ever listened to the interview Ron did with Pat before he was Beck's sidekick? At the beginning of his 2008 presidential run?
It will tell you all you ever need to know about Pat and anybody that would hire him.
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No, I never heard it before, thanks for that. So much of what Ron said there is mainstream now, about spying and all that. Its sort of surreal.
 
specsaregood said:
You ever listened to the interview Ron did with Pat before he was Beck's sidekick? At the beginning of his 2008 presidential run?
It will tell you all you ever need to know about Pat and anybody that would hire him.
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Wow. That is the guy who wasn't sure if he would vote for Rand Paul. That guy is insanely disrespectful in that interview toward Ron Paul. He is a clown. He treats Rand well by comparison. That is crazy how poorly Ron Paul was treated. Ron Paul was actually doing a great job explaining things. That guy is a slob.
 
Traditional Conservative said:
Yeah. And the candidate who gets endorsed and supported by the Beck-Levin-Hannity types always loses. The candidates that they hated the most (McCain and Romney) ended up winning.
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Beck never hated Romney. I think his whole strategy throughout 2012 was to help get Romney nominated.

I don't think Hannity or Levin ever did either.
 
erowe1 said:
Beck never hated Romney. I think his whole strategy throughout 2012 was to help get Romney nominated.

I don't think Hannity or Levin ever did either.
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They all wanted a "conservative" to get the GOP nomination rather than Romney. They may have supported him against Obama, but they certainly didn't support him in the GOP primary.
 
Traditional Conservative said:
They all wanted a "conservative" to get the GOP nomination rather than Romney. They may have supported him against Obama, but they certainly didn't support him in the GOP primary.
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Beck did support him in the GOP primary, albeit furtively, which was why he worked so hard to squash Newt's hopes. And the others didn't seem to oppose him or acknowledge that he wasn't what they considered conservative.
 
erowe1 said:
Beck did support him in the GOP primary, albeit furtively, which was why he worked so hard to squash Newt's hopes. And the others didn't seem to oppose him or acknowledge that he wasn't what they considered conservative.
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To be fair, Romney is probably less bad than Newt or Santorum.
 
erowe1 said:
And the others didn't seem to oppose him or acknowledge that he wasn't what they considered conservative.
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That simply isn't the case. I heard Rush say many times on his show that Romney wasn't a conservative.
 
Bernie Sanders? Any good Communist would not have sold out on Audit The Fed.
 
Okay, so I listened to the entire broadcast in context. I heard no "trashing" of Rand Paul - absolutely none - on Glenn's part. In fact, when Pat expressed doubts about Rand - essentially saying that he had crossed over to the dark side and sold his soul to the Establishment, Glenn called him out on it. And when Pat gave Rubio a baffling A- despite his flippant indecisiveness on immigration, Glenn went ballistic. What I did hear from Glenn, however (and I've experienced this myself), was a morally conflicted person challenging himself on whether "playing the game" sometimes compromises a person's dignity, and on that, I actually agree. I also heard some prescient criticisms from his co-hosts on how many D.C. staffers are seeing a mirror image of themselves in Rand: someone who went to Washington with an idealistic desire to change the way things are done in the city, but eventually "came down to earth" and realized that sometimes you have to make friends with the Establishment and sacrifice your values in order to get somewhere.

Remember that Rand was scorned by many of his colleagues when he first came to Washington, but is now seen as more amiable and willing to be manipulated into doing things the party wants. Ted Cruz, on the other hand, is hated by most everyone up there, save for Mike Lee, Jeff Sessions, and a few Tea Party-elected conservatives in the House. The Establishment is trying to smear him as a "one man army" and, as McConnell intoned, "crush" any primary challengers who might side with him. The love affair some Rand Paul supporters have with Mitch McConnell is rather bizarre: the same dirty tricks he played against Rand when he was running against Trey Greyson in Kentucky are being used against Cruz, Lee, Louie Gohmert, and other foes of the Establishment. This is the same man whose allies denounce Campaign For Liberty, FreedomWorks, the Senate Conservatives Fund, and Heritage as the "for-profit wing of the GOP" and trash anyone who dares take their promises to repeal ObamaCare seriously.

Glenn, by the way, never he said he preferred Cruz. He never even specified which of the two he prefers. Last time they talked about this, he said he likes both equally, but that Rand had a better shot at getting the nomination. I'd say that's pretty accurate. Ted Cruz is invincible in debates, though, so I can't say I wouldn't like to see him on stage. I like him just as much. But Rand is definitely my pick for president if the election was held today.
 
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Traditional Conservative said:
That simply isn't the case. I heard Rush say many times on his show that Romney wasn't a conservative.
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Rush wasn't in the list you gave.

But if you throw him in, then yeah, pretending not to like Romney was part of the script he followed in 2012, after having already pushed for him in 2008 saying he was the ideal conservative.
 
No one takes Beck seriously anymore. All threads on places such as Free Republic result in a bunch of mockery. Quite the change from 2009.

Get lost, Beck.

Traditional Conservative said:
I listened to it live. Beck didn't sound that anti Rand to me. He basically just said the same thing that many of us have said, which is that Ron couldn't win the Presidency running on a completely honest and principled platform, and Rand has had to make some compromises with the establishment in order to have a real chance to win in 2016 and do what his dad couldn't do.
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Yeah, I am not hearing this "absolute trashing". Still, I wish Beck and some of these other talk radio hosts would go away.
 
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RonPaulFanInGA said:
No one takes Beck seriously anymore. All threads on places such as Free Republic result in a bunch of mockery. Quite the change from 2009.

Get lost, Beck.



Yeah, I am not hearing this "absolute trashing". Still, I wish Beck and some of these other talk radio hosts would go away.
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I'm not going to listen to Beck....I don't want to ruin my whole day, but it's to early in the election cycle for Beck to go full-retard. I'll take your word that it's not "absolute trashing". It's still honey season.
 
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