Giving up alcohol, any advice?

jmdrake said:
Oh let the great wise sages of SouthPark guide you. :rolleyes: Danno you can't be serious. Then again seeing the nutty stuff you've posted in the past....
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My sister and nephew are in AA. It's a cult.
Penn and Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it too. Couldn't find anyone to produce any science on it.
If it ain't scientific and you still believe it works, well, you can do the math there.
 
I have this book and have used it successfully: http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Weeks-S...357157225&sr=8-1&keywords=7+weeks+to+sobriety

Your #1 top supplement to stop alcohol cravings is the amino acid L-Glutamine.
You also want to take a B-100 supplement.

If you have a problem with sleeping/insomnia, some Tryptophan or 5-HTP along with some L-Theanine before bed may help a lot.

Avoid sugar, simple carbohydrates, coffee/caffeine, nicotine, and other things that may further screw up neurotransmitters. Eat plenty of whole foods, drink a lot of water, and a whey protein shake in between meals can help immensely.

You have to COMMIT to abstinence, otherwise it's extremely easy to fall back into drinking a lot again.

You may also find some information of interest here: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/alcoholism-000002.htm
 
jmdrake said:
Oh let the great wise sages of SouthPark guide you. :rolleyes: Danno you can't be serious. Then again seeing the nutty stuff you've posted in the past....
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Meh, they are usually spot on about 97% of the time..

Have you been to an AA meeting before? I went to one with a friend one time (he was required to go or else go to jail) and even he admitted afterward it was a cult. He didn't say before because he wanted me to actually go and see it for myself.

The whole idea that people are completely powerless to keep their alcohol consumption at reasonable levels is absurd. Even people who don't keep their alcohol consumption at reasonable levels have the power to, they just choose not to use it.
 
dannno said:
The whole idea that people are completely powerless to keep their alcohol consumption at reasonable levels is absurd. Even people who don't keep their alcohol consumption at reasonable levels have the power to, they just choose not to use it.
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You obviously have never had a real alcoholic in your family.

Say the same thing about heroin and you'll see how ridiculous your statement is.
 
dannno said:
I went to one with a friend one time (he was required to go or else go to jail) and even he admitted afterward it was a cult.
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I don't think the people who only go because the court orders them to go are the ones it works for.
 
fisharmor said:
My sister and nephew are in AA. It's a cult.
Penn and Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it too. Couldn't find anyone to produce any science on it.
If it ain't scientific and you still believe it works, well, you can do the math there.
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Penn and Teller should do a Bullshit episode on themselves. While there is no "science" involved with AA, addiction scientists have picked up on the methods and used them. Read the book "The Power of Habit" to understand and quit watching crap on TV. Because of the anonymous nature of AA it's hard to measure the results. But the methods they use of having a group where you feel safe to divulge your past to because they are "just like you" helps people with various addictions recognize their "triggers" (when they are weak) and deal with them.
 
dannno said:
Meh, they are usually spot on about 97% of the time..
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So I take it you bought into their attack on truthers too? :rolleyes:

Have you been to an AA meeting before? I went to one with a friend one time (he was required to go or else go to jail) and even he admitted afterward it was a cult. He didn't say before because he wanted me to actually go and see it for myself.

The whole idea that people are completely powerless to keep their alcohol consumption at reasonable levels is absurd. Even people who don't keep their alcohol consumption at reasonable levels have the power to, they just choose not to use it.
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Did you know the person who started AA had been through the "scientific professional" treatments twice before stopping without their help? Sorry things didn't work out for your friend. Court ordered anything isn't good. But anyone who thinks having a support group that you can be totally honest with isn't helpful for breaking addiction has never really dealt with addiction.
 
erowe1 said:
I don't think the people who only go because the court orders them to go are the ones it works for.
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Yeah, that's a common complaint. The courts flood AA groups with people who only use AA as a 'Get Out Of Jail' card.
 
fisharmor said:
My sister and nephew are in AA. It's a cult.
Penn and Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it too. Couldn't find anyone to produce any science on it.
If it ain't scientific and you still believe it works, well, you can do the math there.
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if you believe it works, it's still got a placebo effect on you, don't it?

By the way, it's funny that Penn & Teller didn't offer any alternative, just like they didn't offer any alternative to "anger management", they just say "hey, yours doesn't work, har har".
 
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