Getting word huck fans want to help our fight?

[newyearsrevolution08]

Last night was their first night of media bias and the first time I saw a large jump over here based on it. I think they would have been welcomed anytime they came honestly but they didn't see what was going on until it happened to them. How can you know until it happens to you? and once it does you then realize the issues that we ron paul supporters have been facing and why we support the man we do.

We should have been welcoming them sooner I think.

Good news though.

 

[Sey.Naci]

You sure those 167+ aren't talking about the Hucksters moneybomb tomorrow? Apparently, he's having one too.

 

[liberteebell]

slacker, those are huck fans and others who WOKE up last night due to the media bias that happened. The only person with a platform to combat that is ron paul and more people are finally seeing it.

So it will end up

WIDE AWAKE AMERICANS who vote for the person and their views vs. Sheepish Americans who base their vote on what the media tells them

I think we will win this fight in the end dont you?

I am EXCITED for everyone participating in this including those newly converted huck fans as well. How exciting is all of this, imagine being part of the effort that actually takes the nation back for the better?

AMAZING

and man oh man am I praying for everyone to donate tonight and tomorrow! not sure if God wants me to pray for money to be raised so I asked for something else and here it is..

"Dear God please help America wake up and realize what has been going on and please help this bias that has been going on get changed to give the people of this great nation the opportunity to vote their hearts based on what would make this nation great and not would be the easy way out.

Please help us be able to fund this effort in a way that can combat this evil that is trying to keep this message from being heard and please put it on others hearts as well to do the same

Oh and if possible can you please lower the gas prices for awhile so we can afford driving

thank you father God,
Amen"

Now I know that last part about gas prices was materialistic but man is it expensive over here in california for us and odds are the same around the nation but I hope God doesn't hold that small part against me and understands the hardship we all face with the cost of living these days.

I am so excited about tonight and tomorrow and we are all doing a sign holding tomorrow during rush hour as well to celebrate this great day!!!!!!

keep up the fight everyone.....

Love it!

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Trust me I know who they were talking about. There maxoutformike has been known for awhile as well. But yes they contacted me to find out what to do and trust me we were NOT talking about the maxoutformike site during this in the least. Not trying to be rude to those supporting the huckster but am happy to see some of them coming to support ron paul now.

I do hope their money bomb does go great too because they will need it to fund adverts now that he will not be getting the free air time..

We are going to be seeing a ton of new donators tonight/tomorrow and many will be coming from huck fans who's eyes are now opened to the bias and media manipulation that goes on. I think it is great but by all means I hope the hucksters money bomb goes great too BUT not really on my agenda or those who contacted me about changing their support to ron paul.

Woohoo lets keep up the fight and support the one man who can give us back control of this great nation!!!

Lets go Ron Paul!!!!!

 

[Sey.Naci]

Last night was their first night of media bias and the first time I saw a large jump over here based on it. I think they would have been welcomed anytime they came honestly but they didn't see what was going on until it happened to them. How can you know until it happens to you? and once it does you then realize the issues that we ron paul supporters have been facing and why we support the man we do.

Actually, while I'm more than happy to welcome the new Hucksters, I don't see the logic of this turnaround. How is their suddenly seeing the media bias a reason for switching? I mean, don't you switch candidates b/c you believe more in one's position than another's? What has having been subjected to MSM blackouts, smears, etc. to do with the decision?

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Well here is the question

if you never saw media manipulation would you believe it?

ODDS are no, now once you saw it and saw how much power it has could you simply forget about realizing it and STILL vote for someone who does not have a way to stop it?

I guess some would but like me who used to like MCCAIN (msm told me I swear!) and then once I woke up guess who I turned to ?

Ron Paul of course..

I think it makes perfect sense myself.

Actually, while I'm more than happy to welcome the new Hucksters, I don't see the logic of this turnaround. How is their suddenly seeing the media bias a reason for switching? I mean, don't you switch candidates b/c you believe more in one's position than another's? What has having been subjected to MSM blackouts, smears, etc. to do with the decision?

 

[LandonCook]

This is what I sent to huckabee supporters:

Dear Huckabee supporters,

I will admit right now that I am not a Huckabee supporter, but a Ron Paul supporter. After watching the last debate you probably already know that both Paul, and Huckabee were completely left out of the debate. Its called a Media Blackout and we have been dealing with this for 5 months, but it seems it has just started with Mike last night. Mike and Ron are the ONLY two Candidates left in this race with principles and morals and the media is now shunning both! I was so mad last night after the debate that I went and donated to both Huckabee and Paul. We have got to keep fighting. I love my country too much to ever give up on freedom. I hope you never concede your conservative principles, its what makes us strong, its what makes our country strong. There is not much we can do about the media, Ron Paul supporters have been boycotting fox, especially since we found out they had been funding Hillary's campaign. But I wish you all the best of luck and keep you all in my prayers.

Your fellow countryman,
Landon Walsh

 

[Sey.Naci]

Still don't see it.

Forgive me. Am not trying to be ornery, just trying to understand this turnaround. It's the logician in me. LOL

a) People have supported Huck, presumably due to his views
b) Huck supporters witness Huck and RP being subjected to MSM bias
c) Huck supporters become RP supporters.

Huh? Why, if they have supported Huck all along, have they turned to thinking that RP - just because of the media bias they witnessed Jan 30th, which BOTH Huck & RP experienced - is now their saviour and not, still, Huck?

There must be something else going on, such as their having liked what little RP had an opportunity to say last night. Or, better yet, they've checked out RP's website and read all the stuff that the MSM hasn't been reporting.

 

[miketwalker]

Huh? Why, if they have supported Huck all along, have they turned to thinking that RP - just because of the media bias they witnessed Jan 30th, which BOTH Huck & RP experienced - is now their saviour and not, still, Huck?

I would relate it to the change in debates in recent weeks. Before Paul would talk about the economy heavily and people like McCain woud laugh on stage about him even talking about it and everyone was too busy going "war war war" (heck McCain still thinks the number one issue being voted on is islamic terrorism which it isn't). However, the second signs of recession came out and the government started talking about it a few weeks back everything shifted to the economy.

I think the comparison is that Huckabee people went "Wait, my candidate's not crazy, why are you shunning him? What is going on?" and looking it up and seeing it happening to Paul all along and saying "Why would they do that to him?" to try to find out why they would do it to their candidate and in the process find they agree with him and are impressed by him and our movement still keeping going after months of it. We saw Huckabee's frustration the first time it happened to him last night while Paul remained calm as usual and everyone's probably finding themselves impressed that he could keep his cool for so long.

Plus, Cooper told him "You can talk about being a conservative in 2 questions" and never did. I think the Huckabee people are smart enough to have noticed that and go "Wait, I never heard him talk, why would they block him? Maybe he had something good to say like my candidate did... and they wouldn't let him. What am I missing?"

I think the media just became the cat... and the Huckabee supporters became the curiousity.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Not sure really, before I got "turned on" to ron paul (not the best way to word that I guess) I only had a couple issues that were important to me and even those issues were not even issues that I understood myself.

For me to go from mccain of all people to ron paul is a even larger swing then huckabee to ron paul and honestly many people only vote on one or two issues and not the entire range of issues or the platform itself that the candidate stands for.

For instance today you see some huck fans coming here asking that we group up to combat this media bias, I never saw that UNTIL today which so happened to be RIGHT AFTER their guy got tanked last night by them and I think you can agree with that.

I am seeing more "lets all get along" TODAY then I have seen in the entire campaign and that is YES all from just last nights media bias as they themselves will tell you.

Go read in the reagan subforum here and see what some of the huck fans are saying and no they never did talk about this bias issues UNTIL last night so yes I think many did WAKE UP and realize that maybe giving the power BACK to us instead of being shown and told how to believe might be a better platform to back rather then huckabees platform.

Nothing against his supports or the huckster himself I am sure but once you realize you have been lied to or fed only half the story you tend to want to change that and no the huckster is not that change BUT ron paul and his crazy supporters are and we have been screaming it since the beginning.

Still don't see it.

Forgive me. Am not trying to be ornery, just trying to understand this turnaround. It's the logician in me. LOL

a) People have supported Huck, presumably due to his views
b) Huck supporters witness Huck and RP being subjected to MSM bias
c) Huck supporters become RP supporters.

Huh? Why, if they have supported Huck all along, have they turned to thinking that RP - just because of the media bias they witnessed Jan 30th, which BOTH Huck & RP experienced - is now their saviour and not, still, Huck?

There must be something else going on, such as their having liked what little RP had an opportunity to say last night. Or, better yet, they've checked out RP's website and read all the stuff that the MSM hasn't been reporting.

 

[Ex Post Facto]

I'm behind Ron Paul because he is behind the constitution and civil liberties. I could care less about Ron Paul's issues per se, but happen to agree with most of them. I would vote for Dennis Kucinich, because he backs the constitution, and has a track record to show it. I care less about issues, and more about Freedom.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

great words Ex Post Facto

 

[OptionsTrader]

It's a big tent.

 

[mstrmac1]

OP: Many will be joining our fight tomorrow and from a very active source

Forgive me but who is this active source?

 

[Mini-Me]

Although Huckabee himself is a charlatan, his active supporters really are generally good people - the unfortunate part is that they were blinded by their religious sympathies. They just want to believe SO BADLY that Huckabee is a "good Christian" that they allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking he's somehow different from all of the other corrupt politicians. Matthew 7:15 comes to mind (New King James version): "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves." There's another good one I can't pinpoint, too...

Even if they don't go as far as realizing that Huckabee is a fraud and more of the same, it's wonderful to see some of Huck's Army soften up to Ron Paul. Although I'm not a Christian anymore myself, the great thing about Ron Paul is that he has such a "big tent" support base, and evangelical Christians have just as much reason as anyone to believe in the principles this country was founded on. This gives me an added boost of hope for both Paul's campaign and the longevity of our movement. While Huck may not actually mean what he says, he's helped us a lot by paying lip service to Constitutional principles and softening his supporters up for these ideas. Now that the media establishment has decided that Huck has outlived his usefulness (since he's helping to turn people onto Paul and his presence increases the chance of a brokered convention), his supporters are now getting a glimpse of the establishment's horrid corruption. The media has no business trying to push "frontrunners" on the public, and even though I don't like Huck, the treatment he received was almost as unfair as what has been happening to Paul. This is really serving to drive home the painful truth that our political process is not what it's supposed to be (to understate the situation...), and I think (hope!) it's really starting to wake a whole bunch more people up to our country's plight. As someone else mentioned, Huck's treatment last night legitimized for Huck supporters what Paul supporters have been saying all along about the media, and I think that shocking moment of, "Wow...you mean they aren't crazy?" will probably start pouring over into other areas.

 

[Sey.Naci]

Not sure really, before I got "turned on" to ron paul (not the best way to word that I guess) I only had a couple issues that were important to me and even those issues were not even issues that I understood myself.

For me to go from mccain of all people to ron paul is a even larger swing then huckabee to ron paul and honestly many people only vote on one or two issues and not the entire range of issues or the platform itself that the candidate stands for.

For instance today you see some huck fans coming here asking that we group up to combat this media bias, I never saw that UNTIL today which so happened to be RIGHT AFTER their guy got tanked last night by them and I think you can agree with that.

I am seeing more "lets all get along" TODAY then I have seen in the entire campaign and that is YES all from just last nights media bias as they themselves will tell you.

Go read in the reagan subforum here and see what some of the huck fans are saying and no they never did talk about this bias issues UNTIL last night so yes I think many did WAKE UP and realize that maybe giving the power BACK to us instead of being shown and told how to believe might be a better platform to back rather then huckabees platform.

Nothing against his supports or the huckster himself I am sure but once you realize you have been lied to or fed only half the story you tend to want to change that and no the huckster is not that change BUT ron paul and his crazy supporters are and we have been screaming it since the beginning.

OK, am beginning to see it. The problem was that pieces or steps in the decision process seemed to be missing. So what you're saying is:

1. they finally see the bias, since their guy was subjected to it
2. this makes them realize that RP supporters had NOT been exaggerating when we complained of the media blackout, smears, etc. on RP
3. they learn during the debate the key focus of RP's message is to restore the Constitution and personal liberties (monetary and foreign policy go along with that).
4. therefore, the best candidate to address the very thing that affected THEIR candidate in the debate is OUR candidate, RP.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

to sum it up yes indeed

sometimes I guess I need to explain things better. that is my cross to bare

OK, am beginning to see it. The problem was that pieces or steps in the decision process seemed to be missing. So what you're saying is:

1. they finally see the bias, since their guy was subjected to it
2. this makes them realize that RP supporters had NOT been exaggerating when we complained of the media blackout, smears, etc. on RP
3. they learn during the debate the key focus of RP's message is to restore the Constitution and personal liberties (monetary and foreign policy go along with that).
4. therefore, the best candidate to address the very thing that affected THEIR candidate in the debate is OUR candidate, RP.

 

[fuzzybekool]

Huckabee has come around more to RP's positions than any other candidate i think.

 

[CzargwaR]

Lets spread some love .....R[EVOL]UTION style!! to Huck's supporters !

 

[Babylon]

Sadly, although Huckabee supporters get it, i don't think Huckabee does - I mean I know he realizes he got shafted, but I don't see him coming around to Paul's positions, he was still sucking up to McCain pretty well the last time I checked, still angling for that VP position.

I have seen Huck supporters saying they could never support McCain, I wonder if that tune would change if Huck was his VP?

Of course, Ron Paul would never run as a VP with any of the snakes, because prinicple and honor are more than a sound bite to him.

Huckabee is not stupid. (Indeed, he may be the most intelligent of the bunch, not that I agree with his policies).
He surely knows McCain would never even consider him as VP.

He doesn't bring jack-shit to a McCain ticket.

To McCain, Huckabee is a backwoods proletariat... he's not in the same class. People seem to forget that McCain is a multi-millionaire WASP.

Huckabee must know he will have no influence at the convention... after this election, all that awaits him is, perhaps, being a pundit on Fox.

I do not know what Huckabee is up to, but within a matter of days, he will be as irrelevant as Paul has become. (in the eyes of the majority of voters).

I hope he does something outrageous.

But, I suspect that even if he endorsed Paul outright (or vice versa) the media would utterly ignore it at this point.