Getting the Muslim vote in Ames (Hamadeh)

[Razmear]

One issue that should be important to Muslims, and all Americans is Habeas Corpus, which has recently been revoked.
The right to know why you are imprisoned has been established since 1305, over 700 years ago in England, yet Bush and the Neo-Con's wiped it away without a second thought.

eb

where I found the date reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus

 

[Hook]

Ron paul isn't coddling anyone. It is the supporters doing all the inviting to the Muslims.

 

[Razmear]

I personally thing it's a really bad idea. So not only Ron Paul, in minds of an ignorant Paris Hilton following public, blames us for 9/11 attack, he also tries to coddle a muslim vote. I'd say not to do that...

$0.02

We should reach out to All Americans, Muslims included.
I say go for it.

$0.03
eb

 

[Lord Xar]

I personally thing it's a really bad idea. So not only Ron Paul, in minds of an ignorant Paris Hilton following public, blames us for 9/11 attack, he also tries to coddle a muslim vote. I'd say not to do that...

$0.02

I see what you are saying, but how could anybody actually fault Ron Paul for getting votes without making it sound racial?

You have Obama and Hillary pandering and promising Amnesty to NCLR (la raza), a racist organization in my mind and they, -- obuma and hilgary, are considered just fine by this..

so, I think if anyone tried to say anything you could easily call them on it for being biased. Plus, I do not think the muslim population in america take kindly to reporters that to seek their vote is akin to promoting terrorism.. but not only that.. to seek their vote is not important.......... what do you think?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I mean I realy wish the campaign could get back to me, My family and I have experience with this stuff. I know i can raise him 50,000 dollars and more, more importantley more votes in AZ! I tried calling them now they must be at lunch not answering .

Don't take it personally. They haven't gotten back to me either. Seriously, they are still so backed up on their email, they can't see straight.

But, since this is for a fundraiser, why don't you call them Hamadeh? I'm sure they will put you in touch with a decision maker.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Muslims are Americans, just like everyone else. I think it is a good idea for some of us to reach out to them.

 

[Akus]

I see what you are saying, but how could anybody actually fault Ron Paul for getting votes without making it sound racial?

You have Obama and Hillary pandering and promising Amnesty to NCLR (la raza), a racist organization in my mind and they, -- obuma and hilgary, are considered just fine by this..

so, I think if anyone tried to say anything you could easily call them on it for being biased. Plus, I do not think the muslim population in america take kindly to reporters that to seek their vote is akin to promoting terrorism.. but not only that.. to seek their vote is not important.......... what do you think?

La raza doesnt associate with murder as far as a typical whitebread america is concerned. Muslims do.

 

[NOLA]

Whoa...where did this come from. This thread should not be "let's get Muslim votes at the expense of other groups" kind of thread. I would be fully supportive of a thread on here made by a Jew or a Hindu or pretty much any other religion. That is the beauty of the Ron Paul Presidency. It attacts to it people of various belief systems that never have thought of working together for a common cause: freedom. Freedom is the basic underpining which allow you to broadcast your views in the first place. Please, do not make this thread into anything else beside how do we foster an environment and reach out to Muslims in a meaningful way. There is not enough time for Ron Paul for us o bicker among ourselves. If it is your view that Muslims somehow condone terrorism that is your view. That is not my view nor is it any of the other Muslims that I know. That is a view of a minority of individuals, and I don't care what any of the polls say.

 

[Nefertiti]

My point was not only do you have to sell Muslims on Ron Paul, you also have to sell them on the political process. For someone who may have not been raised in Iowa and instead may come from a country that is basically a dictatorship, the caucus process and even the straw poll is a concept that you are going to have to sell them on. This is going to take some time. Many Muslims are convinced all American politicians are the same and don't even think about voting.

Anyway, I found another useful Iowa link:

http://www.uiowa.edu/~muslims/'

The Muslim Student Associations are good to aim at-not just mosques.

 

[Dustancostine]

NOLA it seems you are Muslim, are you Nefertit?

Will either of you volunteer to help me do this?

Thanks,
Dustan

 

[torchbearer]

NOLA as in New Orleans?

 

[Dustancostine]

WOW I just found this site http://www.islamicfinder.org on the uiowa site listed by Nef, and you can type in a zip code and it will tell you all of the Islamic Organizations and Muslim Owned business within 30 miles.

For instance for Des Moines:

Masjids and Islamic Centers City Miles

Muslim Community Organization Des Moines 1.4
Islamic and Cultural Center Bosniak Des Moines 3.2
Muslim Center Des Moines 3.7
Islamic Center Of Des Moines Urbandale 4.7
Islamic Organizations and Services City Miles
MSA - Drake University - Des Moines Des Moines 1.4

Muslim Owned Businesses City Miles
Hilal Groceries Des Moines 1.4
International Groceries & More Urbandale 4.7
Dr. Ahmed Abdel Latief Clive 5.4
Aisha R. Syed Realtor® / Iowa Realty West Des Moines 5.7

Islamic Schools and Colleges City Miles
New Horizons Academy Des Moines 4.7

 

[Nefertiti]

Researching Iowa and Muslims is pretty depressing as most of the results are a bunch of people paranoid that Muslims are taking over the state...

In any case, I came across this:

http://www.freemuslims.org/news/article.php?article=2035

Seems this group would support Ron Paul, although I have to tell you this group probably would not appeal to most Muslims. Their ideas border on the heretical.

 

[NOLA]

Yeah, I live in New Orleans...waiting for Ron Paul to come down here. and tour the Hurricane damage. Hopefully, right after Ames he can come down here. Those businesses can put up flyers if they want. Someone had put an FEC site up and I had saved it. I am going to put in common Muslim name...so I know that they are comfortable in donating and then give them a pitch to donate to Ron Paul.
Islamicfinder is a pretty good site. I just made the Muslims for Ron Paul facebook group. I am waiting for people to accept their invitations. Hope this spreads. You guys are more than free to join even if you aren't Muslim. I personally don't like the idea of grouping people togetrher, but Islam is something that transcends race, color or nationality.

 

[max]

The economic system of Islam is based on decentralized free market enterprise with an interest free monetary system. Jesus also railed against the money lenders - chasing them out of the temple with a whip.

Free markets with sound money are what God intended...not this Zionist Central Banking cartel that keeps us in perpetual debt and tax slavery...

Muslims will jump aborad the RP bandwagon once they understand this...IThe hell with whitebread Muslim hating, TV brainwashed America....Those fools will never vote for RP anyway...We need to target the disaffected who never voted because they know the system is a scam.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Oh geez.

 

[Dustancostine]

Yeah, I live in New Orleans...waiting for Ron Paul to come down here. and tour the Hurricane damage. Hopefully, right after Ames he can come down here. Those businesses can put up flyers if they want. Someone had put an FEC site up and I had saved it. I am going to put in common Muslim name...so I know that they are comfortable in donating and then give them a pitch to donate to Ron Paul.
Islamicfinder is a pretty good site. I just made the Muslims for Ron Paul facebook group. I am waiting for people to accept their invitations. Hope this spreads. You guys are more than free to join even if you aren't Muslim. I personally don't like the idea of grouping people togetrher, but Islam is something that transcends race, color or nationality.

Great Work NOLA!!!

 

[specsaregood]

Excellent Idea and good work getting it going.

To the doubters who say this will get spun the wrong way. Let the spin machine come. Let the fear mongers further prove THEIR racism and prejudices. I agree with others that many muslims, once told the whole story about Ron Paul would support his presidency. We are looking at shaking up the current establishment GOP with this campaign; this is a good thing.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Hamadeh, I think your participation in contacting Muslim voters will especially have a profound impact since peopel tend to listen to others' who share a common background. Hearing these things from you will convince them more than hearing them from me. Im going to send emails, etc as well. I love this idea. I've noticed a number of young Muslims in the Ron Paul group on facebook. how many other GOP candidates can say the same?

 

[Dan Klaus]

bump for an update..my wife is Muslim and would be happy to email the Imams and other centers for the Islamic faith..I don't want to inundate them - have they been contacted??