Get ready for the independent campaign

Badger Paul

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A lot will depend on what happens between Obama and Clinton, but I see McCain sweeping all before him now on Feb.5 (unless we can take a few caucuses) Republicans are going to want to settle up and watch Clinton and Obama tear each other apart. After Feb. 5, Ron should suspend his campaign, tell his supporters to get what deleagtes they can in the remaining states, win re-election to his Congressional district, then get ready for a fall campaign.

McCain means war. It's that simple. We have to stop him.
 
I'm not so sure about McCain dominating yet. The establishment GOP hates him. They'll be working hard to push Mitt. But since Feb. 5th is so soon, I can also see how the general public will react by voting for a "winner" candidate.
 
McCain has been given the nod by the higher ups. The GOP may hate it, but it's a done deal. We just have to keep fighting and hope for the best.
 
Do we really want Dr. Paul to be the spoiler who puts HILLARY in office?? I mean McCain is bad, but she is much worse..... I don't want Dr. Paul to be the Ross Perot of this election.
 
Right now,Rasmussen has Paul at 15% against McCain and Hillary and 12% against McCain and Obama. If he stays in the republican fight until May with Mitt and McCain, his name recognition will improve and he will likely poll higher than the 15% he is getting today. 15% in National polls gets him into debates in September and October...from there, who knows what could happen. He has to poll ate greater than 15% by September though, or their is no chance.
 
Do we really want Dr. Paul to be the spoiler who puts HILLARY in office?? I mean McCain is bad, but she is much worse..... I don't want Dr. Paul to be the Ross Perot of this election.

Yes, we do. At the very least, Perot caused Bush to run on a true conservative platform. he didn't act on it, but he at least ran and won on it. If it takes Paul handing the presidency to Hillary, to change the republican party, or give real legitimacy to the libertarians, I will take it in the name of change.
 
I think Paul will sit back and let the economy fall apart over the next 4 years and then run again in 2012... and this time with all the organization in place... and all the lessons we have learned since then... we will be ready and funded from the get go.
And in the meantime he and we will focus on running Ron Paul Republicans and Ron Paul Democrats in every single federal election in 2010 when turnout will be much lower.
 
I disagree, Paul should stay in for all 50 states. Never quit....then run 3rd party....to WIN !!
 
Do we really want Dr. Paul to be the spoiler who puts HILLARY in office?? I mean McCain is bad, but she is much worse..... I don't want Dr. Paul to be the Ross Perot of this election.
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This isnt 1992, Ross Perot at the end of the day was all about Ross Perot, the guy could give a crap about the creation and efforts of building a 3rd party and if I remember correctly was really only a 1 issue candidates, Nafta. Also, if you remember correctly, Perot dropped out right before jumping back in, had he not dropped out he would have carried states and sent the election process into disaray. There is no doubt in my mind, that Ron Paul at full strength with full participation in the debates could win states and throw the system into flux with no clear majority, then the election would go to the Legislature where deals can be made. No one should ever feel guilt about not participating in the systems game, where you feel bad about not voting strategically, eventually if enough people decide to waste their vote on a third party candidate because the other two parties stink, he will get a ton of votes. BTW do any older folk remember a time in history where the people have been so angered and frustrated with the system itself as they are now? I have never seen both sides getting such an angry response from people.
 
good luck funding an independent run.. we cant muster shit right now in terms of dollars.. because we cant win shit.. so the sheeple wont donate.

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what's everyone talking about? we're taking the nomination and the presidency. read your memos, please.
 
He's gonna have a lot of bargaining power with us behind him to the end.

But watch 5 Feb, and the other 25 or so states (and GET OUT THE F***ING VOTE!) before you "decide" how he should best switch gears!
 
Do we really want Dr. Paul to be the spoiler who puts HILLARY in office?? I mean McCain is bad, but she is much worse..... I don't want Dr. Paul to be the Ross Perot of this election.

The GOP doesn't need a spoiler to loose if someone else besides Paul wins the nomination.
 
Can't this talk wait until we see what happens with the Republican nomination? As far as I know, Ron Paul has not dropped out.
 
Im a republican but i will not vote for McCain = Bush Jr. and Hillary is on the same level! why do people get all independent and give up posts it's BS!
 
Bloomberg will enter the race in March/April if this goes brokered.

It would be fun to see a 4 party race if Ron doesn't get the Republican nom...
 
i agree Ron Paul will not be a spoiler

Hillary would win against any GOP candidate--especially if they end up pairing her up with Obama. Ron Paul as an independent is the only hope this country has to avoid electing the CFR President.
 
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