Get ready for a new war - Israeli Embassy in India attacked by car bomb !

[Xelaetaks]

I don't even know what you're trying to say, to be honest with you.

Nevermind I probably misunderstood what you wrote before. I thought you were implying there are no muslim/islam extremists but I don't think that is what you were saying. Ah

 

[milo10]

While you may be on to something with this statement, there is a great deal of paranoia when it comes to Jews and conspiracy theories. There are always some reptilian Rotschilds, Rockefellers and so on, who just want to suck the blood of the "gentiles".

Iran teaches in school the Protocols of the elders of Zion as if it were some historical document and not some Russian White army trash. Hell, Iran should pay Russian FSB/KGB(since white army is gone) royalties for using their propaganda material.

Btw, JuicyG, I assumed before you were from Israel. I don't know if that's the case, but I do appreciate you and Rafi keeping the discussion cordial. I'm aware that Israel is to some extent in a war zone, so I don't want to come off as the sanctimonious outsider.

 

[milo10]

Nevermind I probably misunderstood what you wrote before. I thought you were implying there are no muslim/islam extremists but I don't think that is what you were saying. Ah

Okay

 

[JuicyG]

Btw, JuicyG, I assumed before you were from Israel. I don't know if that's the case, but I do appreciate you and Rafi keeping the discussion cordial. I'm aware that Israel is to some extent in a war zone, so I don't want to come off as the sanctimonious outsider.

No, I`m not from Israel and I`m not Jewish. I`m Armenian though which made me look closer into what Islam stands for. Many of my people were wiped out by them, when Imams gave the ok to killing Christians, saying all Christians can die.( I think it`s bit sad Israel doesn`t admit to the Armenian genocide due to Turkey relations and some politics but this is different story). Sadly this mentality has never gone away in Islam. Once a theocracy like Iran gets powerful, armed with nukes, expect disaster to happen.

There is an Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem and they lived in peace with the people there for thousands of years, being tolerant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Quarter
Why can`t Islam do the same?

 

[Demigod]

Islam had nothing to do with the Armenian genocide.

The Armenians went with the Russians and the Ottomans massacred them in response so to secure their rear.

 

[JuicyG]

Islam had nothing to do with the Armenian genocide.

The Armenians went with the Russians and the Ottomans massacred them in response so to secure their rear.

Things are not that simple. Armenia was a Russian ally because of Christian Orthodox faith but there was a religious war Turkish Islam was waging on the world.

Scholars cite an exemplary event in 1896 as part of Turks' overall jihad on Christians in that era: "The leader of the mob cried: 'Believe in Muhammad and deny your religion.' No one answered… The leader gave the order to massacre..."[181] Concluding that "This 1894-1896 Jihad against Christians in Eastern Turkey claimed 250,000 lives. Many Armenian women were forced into harems, and many women and children were sold as slaves. Rape, considered one of the rights of "booty" in Muslim Jihad."[182]

If you didn`t convert to Islam and renounced your faith, you were as good as dead.

 

[Rafi]

We recognize the Armenian genocide. Forget what our Knesset (Parliament) says or not. It is disgraceful that they play politics with this bull, and look where it got us. Turkey loves our asses now!

 

[Demigod]

Things are not that simple. Armenia was a Russian ally because of Christian Orthodox faith but there was a religious war Turkish Islam was waging on the world.



If you didn`t convert to Islam and renounced your faith, you were as good as dead.

Then how did my ancestors stay alive as well as all the christian people in the Balkans.If you were not Muslim the only thing you had to do was pay some extra taxes and were not allowed to get high positions in the administration which was quite normal because they were the winners and occupiers.In the same time Spain and England managed to exterminate a whole continent and the Spanish even to convert the entire South to Catholicism .

Actually the truth is that when the Ottomans came most of the Orthodox christian nobility swore allegiance to the Ottoman Sultan for keeping their rights as nobility and most importantly the privilege to burn Rome.Yes after they were killed in the future battles their lands were taken by the Ottomans but this was just a betrayal and nothing more.

Faith had a very small part in the Ottomans plans and it was usually aimed towards Catholics.

 

[The Canadian]

I know many of you are very suspicious of Israel and think that we're itching for an attack on iran because we like war and fighting and you like to blame the mossad for stuff because it sounds sexy, but yesterday was the 3rd anniversary of the assassination of Imad Mughniyeh who blew up the Jewish Community Center in Argentina in 1992 and killed over 80 of my people, and he WAS assassinated by the Mossad.

As as much as you think this is a burning of the Reichstag to attack Iran, it was just a revenge attack for assassinating Mughniyeh. Fortunately, they suck at pinpoint assassinations.

And we'll attack Iran soon, and don't need an excuse to do it. The fact that persians are building nuclear facilities is excuse enough, and though you're not threatened by that across the atlantic, we certainly are. You guys (America) can stay out of it, we don't need your help. We'll take the consequences, which judging from when we took out Iraq and Syria's nuclear reactors, didn't amount to a hill of beans.

Rafi last time I check Iran was part of the IAEA and Isreal wasn't. Any reason why Iran is open about the nuclear program and Isreal isn't ?? The attacks on the cars in India could of been from what you say it is, but most likely it was from Isreal and a pretext. You bombed and murdered Americans on the USS Liberty to blame on Egypt. So this doesn't seem so far fetched does it. Nobody is going to attack Isreal when you have 300 plus nukes. But YOU GUYS WILL ATTACK A COUNTRY WITH NONE. Isreal's been hijacked just like the USA and if you think your just going to attack Iran then go home think again. Russia and China will not allow you to and if they intervien then so the USA and the Brits. It's called WW3......... Missles in Mexico anyone !!!!

 

[eduardo89]

I see many post that. But do you have a link? As far as I know, he was only against congress getting involved in the affairs of another sovereign nation, that's why he did not vote to condemn Israel's action.

This. Juicy loves to bend the facts to suit his pro-Zionist agenda. Ron Paul has never said he supported Israel attacking Iraq, he was, however, opposed to the US congress condemning another country for exercising their sovereignty.

 

[eduardo89]

There is an Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem and they lived in peace with the people there for thousands of years, being tolerant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Quarter
Why can`t Islam do the same?

Haha what are you talking about? Christians and Muslims lived in relative peace in Jerusalem for a thousand years...The ones who had it best out of all Christians in Jerusalem under Muslim and Ottoman rule were the Armenians.

 

[JuicyG]

Then how did my ancestors stay alive as well as all the christian people in the Balkans.If you were not Muslim the only thing you had to do was pay some extra taxes and were not allowed to get high positions in the administration which was quite normal because they were the winners and occupiers.In the same time Spain and England managed to exterminate a whole continent and the Spanish even to convert the entire South to Catholicism .

Actually the truth is that when the Ottomans came most of the Orthodox christian nobility swore allegiance to the Ottoman Sultan for keeping their rights as nobility and most importantly the privilege to burn Rome.Yes after they were killed in the future battles their lands were taken by the Ottomans but this was just a betrayal and nothing more.

Faith had a very small part in the Ottomans plans and it was usually aimed towards Catholics.

I see you know some history. However keep in mind that Islam took over most of Orthodox land and they`ve arrived with their armies near Vienna at the gates of catholic west, conquering even Budapest.
At that point armies of the west united and drove them back. They(Turkish Islam) put puppet leaders in some orthodox christian lands because they couldn`t afford to invade due to backlash from catholic west.
But I suggest you research a bit history and see how many massacres Turkish Islam did when engaged in combat, when those people refused to convert. It happened throughout orthodox Europe not just in Armenia. Happened to great extent in Greece for example.

 

[eduardo89]

Rafi last time I check Iran was part of the IAEA and Isreal wasn't. Any reason why Iran is open about the nuclear program and Isreal isn't ?? The attacks on the cars in India could of been from what you say it is, but most likely it was from Isreal and a pretext. You bombed and murdered Americans on the USS Liberty to blame on Egypt. So this doesn't seem so far fetched does it. Nobody is going to attack Isreal when you have 300 plus nukes. But YOU GUYS WILL ATTACK A COUNTRY WITH NONE. Isreal's been hijacked just like the USA and if you think your just going to attack Iran then go home think again. Russia and China will not allow you to and if they intervien then so the USA and the Brits. It's called WW3......... Missles in Mexico anyone !!!!

Israel doesn't have to follow international law. They don't have to allow inspectors into their nuclear facilities. They don't have to follow UN resolutions demanding they cease occupation of Palestine, the Golan Heights and the Shebaa Farms. They don't have to end te illegal blockade of Gaza. They don't have to follow international law regarding the use of phosphorus explosives. They don't have to compensate the 500,000 Arabs they expelled from their land in 1948.

Israel is "special".

 

[milo10]

No, I`m not from Israel and I`m not Jewish. I`m Armenian though which made me look closer into what Islam stands for. Many of my people were wiped out by them, when Imams gave the ok to killing Christians, saying all Christians can die.( I think it`s bit sad Israel doesn`t admit to the Armenian genocide due to Turkey relations and some politics but this is different story). Sadly this mentality has never gone away in Islam. Once a theocracy like Iran gets powerful, armed with nukes, expect disaster to happen.

There is an Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem and they lived in peace with the people there for thousands of years, being tolerant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Quarter
Why can`t Islam do the same?

Let me ask you this: in your research, can you say the same thing about Iran that you can about Turkey or Islam in general?

Turkey has been known for the cruelty of their tactics for centuries. The most famous example of this in European history is Vlad the Impaler, who was considered a psychopath for basically taking Turkish tactics and and upping the ante when he fought the Turks himself.

My own ancestors suffered from the Turks by the way.


Iran, by contrast, has historically been one of the most cultured of all the Islamic nations.

 

[bluesc]

Israel doesn't have to follow international law. They don't have to allow inspectors into their nuclear facilities. They don't have to follow UN resolutions demanding they cease occupation of Palestine, the Golan Heights and the Shebaa Farms. They don't have to end te illegal blockade of Gaza. They don't have to follow international law regarding the use of phosphorus explosives. They don't have to compensate the 500,000 Arabs they expelled from their land in 1948.

Israel is "special".

The ways I could articulate my hate for the state of Israel would probably get me detained indefinitely.

 

[eduardo89]

Iran teaches in school the Protocols of the elders of Zion as if it were some historical document and not some Russian White army trash. Hell, Iran should pay Russian FSB/KGB(since white army is gone) royalties for using their propaganda material.

That's bullshit, just like the majority of your posts.

 

[eduardo89]

The ways I could articulate my hate for the state of Israel would probably get me detained indefinitely.

+rep and ditto

 

[J_White]

tell me more please !
i havent looked much into the depth of those attacks.

At least you admit you know very little and I bet you $10,000 that what ever you do know about the false flag Bombay attacks came from the lying corporate "media." We are fortunate to live in the age of information and ignorance is no longer an excuse to continue to believe in bullshit.

 

[JuicyG]

Let me ask you this: in your research, can you say the same thing about Iran that you can about Turkey or Islam in general?

Turkey has been known for the cruelty of their tactics for centuries. The most famous example of this in European history is Vlad the Impaler, who was considered a psychopath for basically taking Turkish tactics and and upping the ante when he fought the Turks himself.

My own ancestors suffered from the Turks by the way.


Iran, by contrast, has historically been one of the most cultured of all the Islamic nations.

Iran comes from a great Persian legacy. However, keep in mind that today`s government is an extreme one brought by unnatural interference in their affairs, which brought the Shah to power, which in turn oppressed his people, which drove them into the hands of Ayatollahs for salvation.
Germany was a great country before Hitler came to power. It was a beacon of enlightenment in the world. Many were expelled and persecuted when Hitler came to power, people like Thomas Mann or Rudolf Steiner.
Was Hitler representative of the German cultural legacy which brought us Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Goethe, Schiller, Kant, Thomas Mann, Rudolf Steiner and many other bright minds? The leaders are not always representative of their national historic legacy, same as warmongering neocons are probably not representative of American culture in general.

 

[Demigod]

I see you know some history. However keep in mind that Islam took over most of Orthodox land and they`ve arrived with their armies near Vienna at the gates of catholic west, conquering even Budapest.
At that point armies of the west united and drove them back. They(Turkish Islam) put puppet leaders in some orthodox christian lands because they couldn`t afford to invade due to backlash from catholic west.
But I suggest you research a bit history and see how many massacres Turkish Islam did when engaged in combat, when those people refused to convert. It happened throughout orthodox Europe not just in Armenia. Happened to great extent in Greece for example.

The text link shows that it is just propaganda from the first lines

"But had not the Greeks (Byzantines)"

No matter how much the west wants to push this the facts remain the same and that is the Byzantine and Constantinople were the only true heirs of the Roman empire and the pope in Rome is illegitimate.

The Greeks ( as in the Hellenes) shared the faith of the Thracian's,Illyria's,Macedonians,Gauls,Iberian's and every other tribes that was under Roman occupation and that is that they had been assimilated completely.The Turks refereed to the people in what is today Greece as Romans.The Greeks,Albanians and people from the region were the largest contributors to the Janissary.

They did not even try to liberate them self's but were liberated by foreign powers which lived in the illusions of recreating the Hellenic culture but found out that the main language in Athens is Albanian.

I would not even want to start about the Greek church bribing the Ottomans to close all the Slavic Patriarchal's so they can take over so to convert the people.