George Zimmerman Verdict: NOT GUILTY!

[Ender]

BOOM.

It was very hard to tell at first, but it's pretty obvious that Ender is trolling people here to waste our time for no reason at all. Obviously he knows the evidence points to Martin being the aggressor and Zimmerman fearing for his life. And obviously he knows that the only way Zimmerman can be found guilty in a court of law is if there is evidence "beyond a reasonable doubt", which does not come close to existing.

This is why this issue needs to be done with. Not worth wasting time over, no matter how many times Ender posts the same shit.

Ahhhh....but you and kahless NEVER post the same shit. Right.

Hope you're never in a situation where everyone thinks you're guilty and NO ONE will even entertain the thought that you might have been innocent.

Karma's a bitch.

 

[osan]

That way you don't get uppity when they shove their marxism down your throat.

Wanna bet?

 

[osan]

You will find my posts promote individual liberty over the statism you are promoting. I have been staying out of this debate and only spoke out because of you and several other posters spamming these threads with statist propaganda.

Here is a good example:

- Your disparaging the concept of a private individual observing his community for crime prevention purposes in favor of official law enforcement.

- Complaining that Zimmerman was not a member of an official "national neighborhood watch".

- Promoting violation of the non-aggression principle. Posts believing that if the above occurs that the person being followed has a right to attack the follower or observer.

- Stating that there is no risk of death or injury if a stranger is on top of your beating you MMA style. Promoting in this instance that individuals do not have right of self defense and must allow themselves to be beaten waiting for official law enforcement.

- Repeated posts complaining that Zimmerman did not follow the advice of a government dispatcher at a non-emergency number.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kahless again.


Can someone cover me, please?

Good job... well done.

 

[osan]

Good one, you got me on that and as a man of my words, I will have to pay up. But OJ Simpson's case is what we in the business call an exception to the rule.

Man of your word? That implies honesty and integrity, yet this little turd you toss out in a weak attempt to save face after having gotten your ass spanked good is no indicator of such qualities. Wanna be a man about it? Admit you were proven wrong and move on. This response serves only to embarrass and taint you.

 

[osan]

I cannot argue with that. What I had a problem with is this idea that there are black people who are caught after killing other black people and are let go by the justice system. Maybe they slacking off on their unsolved crime case files but when they have a situation like the one with Zimmerman, they go for this kill.

Just look at what they did to the lady who fired a warning shot at the ceiling to scare off what she thought was an aggressive ex, she was convicted of I think child endangerment and is serving 20 yrs behind bars. Nobody was injured but the prosecutors did not let her off and yes she was black, husband was black and the children being endangered were black.

She shot AT her husband, the children being right next to him. The bullet went through a wall, ricocheted, and went into the ceiling. I agree 20 years was grotesquely excessive - a couple years in a nuthouse with a good doctor should have been the result, but do not attempt to portray the woman as a po' victim.

 

[mac_hine]

Man commenting on Trayvon rally, "8 black men killed over the Christmas holiday by other black men, and these people didn't have one rally in their honor.... but, as soon as these negroes can blame a murder on a white person... oh here they come."

 

[dannno]

Your turn to think.

The law is stated in such a way to protect people- especially women- from being stalked. Some stalking is a series of events over days or weeks- some stalking can take place in one evening. This means the "stalker" can follow someone and if they fear for their lives, it can be considered stalking.

Nice try.

They become illegal when they breach the legal definition of harassment e.g. an action such as sending a text is not usually illegal, but is illegal when frequently repeated to an unwilling recipient. In fact, United Kingdom law states the incident only has to happen twice when the stalker should be aware their behavior is unacceptable e.g. two phone calls to a stranger, two gifts following the victim then phoning them etc.

-Wikipedia


So following somebody because you think they are a criminal is not illegal - continuing to subsequently follow somebody after you have found out that they are NOT a criminal may be stalking.

Zimmerman did not stalk Trayvon, get over your shit. Trayvon was a thieving drug user - THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEBODY WHO ENJOYS DRUGS - there is nothing wrong with drug use in and of itself, but Trayvon was most likely getting skittles and iced tea to get high, I knew that from the beginning. He was a thug who liked to steal jewelry and he dressed like a thug in a gated neighborhood that had many recent burglaries by individuals matching his description. Zimmerman had every right to make sure this kid wasn't about to break into one of his neighbor's houses. Then Trayvon came up to him and attacked him. That's likely what happened, and there is no evidence that didn't happen.

 

[dannno]

Ahhhh....but you and kahless NEVER post the same shit. Right.

Hope you're never in a situation where everyone thinks you're guilty and NO ONE will even entertain the thought that you might have been innocent.

Karma's a bitch.

Trayvon is dead, why the hell would he care what anybody thinks? Zimmerman is still alive, that is the issue. Have you entertained the thought that Trayvon may have attacked Zimmerman for no reason?

I have entertained the thought that Trayvon was murdered and is innocent from the beginning, but the more bullshit I hear from the mainstream media the less I'm inclined to believe it.

Do you regularly agree with the mainstream media?

 

[Kregisen]

Ahhhh....but you and kahless NEVER post the same shit. Right.

Hope you're never in a situation where everyone thinks you're guilty and NO ONE will even entertain the thought that you might have been innocent.

Karma's a bitch.

Actually, after reading this story, it reminded me of a time when I was 17 or so at my first job biking home around midnight) and was biking through my subdivision. I decided to take a longer way around just to see what was around there since I always went a different way. I was going slowly taking my time not in a rush, and a few minutes later I casually turn around and see a ~30 year old man on a bicycle following me. I kept going and then he started calling out to me. I stopped and said "what do you want?" and he asked me what I was doing - this is very similar to the Zimmerman/Martin episode except I didn't bash his head into the concrete. I told him I was coming home from work and he explained that he had just gotten stuff stolen our of his yard the night before and was suspicious. Anyway he left and I went on my way.

However your post still makes no sense. YOU'RE the one here thinking Zimmerman is guilty even though there is no evidence of it.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

Actually, after reading this story, it reminded me of a time when I was 17 or so at my first job biking home around midnight) and was biking through my subdivision. I decided to take a longer way around just to see what was around there since I always went a different way. I was going slowly taking my time not in a rush, and a few minutes later I casually turn around and see a ~30 year old man on a bicycle following me. I kept going and then he started calling out to me. I stopped and said "what do you want?" and he asked me what I was doing - this is very similar to the Zimmerman/Martin episode except I didn't bash his head into the concrete. I told him I was coming home from work and he explained that he had just gotten stuff stolen our of his yard the night before and was suspicious. Anyway he left and I went on my way.

However your post still makes no sense. YOU'RE the one here thinking Zimmerman is guilty even though there is no evidence of it.

man i was just about to post my story and thoughts after the verdict. for some reason my wife now thinks Z had no right to follow martin and now thinks martin might have had a reason to be afraid. and we live in a crappy crime ridden neighborhood AND have been stolen from! there are people that walk our roads at all hours of the day and night. its always the same trashy white people and trashy black people. therye all the same. they dont work, they steal from people, yet theyve just not got caught yet.

SOOOOOO since we have been stolen from i have installed a fence, flood lights and am always keeping my eye out. its kinda funny and ironic but about 2 weeks ago i get up to pee around 3am and notice two teens walking up the road and acting all weird. they dance in the road and laugh, then they bolt over into my neighbors yard and dissapear behind his house. he is about 90yrs old and can barely walk. hes also been stolen from and even shot at people 5 years ago. so i start to put on my clothes so i can go and see what the hell they are doing and start calling 911. before i can get my boots on they re appear in the road and dance off into the dark down the street. i still made a report because i cant just be a pussy and hide inside my house while people might be robbing or bashing my neighbors head in. i have the right to look after my place and my neighborhood.

now my wife told me i shouldnt have even thought of going out there because i would have been the aggressor, yet when it happened a few weeks back she said i did the right thing.

so stopping short of threatening someone, punching, or anything physical or verbal threats,.....when is it ok in these eyes of people like my wife to EVER go out and just observe as a witness and good neighbor without going "over the line" so to speak in their minds? i just dont understand it people are always saying how we should protect our homes and our area and keep it clean and keep the trashy people out, yet, now all of a sudden it seems there is no room for anyone doing anything except hiding in their homes like a pussy and waiting on the cops to arrive and save them.

i want neighbors like zimmerman and that old guy from texas that shot the guys robbing his neighbor. i want those kind of people around me. and also this whole idea of zimmerman being the aggressor or being intimidating to a person who shouldnt even be in the area leaves no room for even a neighborhood watch program anymore if these people had things their way.

i dont get it. i really dont.

and just to restate one thing that is a good thing to remember about some of these gated communities is that most of them along with most subdivisions dont have a public road in the general sense. the road running through most of them is half owned by each opposing lot owner. the center line of road is the property line. now if this is true in Zs area, then no one can then make the public road claim.

 

[kahless]

now my wife told me i shouldnt have even thought of going out there because i would have been the aggressor, yet when it happened a few weeks back she said i did the right thing.

The reaction your wife had is a good example of how the propaganda is having the desired effect.

 

[tmg19103]

There are many missing pieces as to what exactly happened that will never be known.

What is known is that the jury believed there was reasonable doubt that Zimmerman DID lawfully defend himself.

O'Mara gave a brilliant closing argument stating that point proved Zimmerman's innocence - and that the almighty State never had a case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnB1roryYWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCEs2fFB17s

 

[Pericles]

The reaction your wife had is a good example of how the propaganda is having the desired effect.

+1

 

[Ender]

Trayvon is dead, why the hell would he care what anybody thinks? Zimmerman is still alive, that is the issue. Have you entertained the thought that Trayvon may have attacked Zimmerman for no reason?

I have entertained the thought that Trayvon was murdered and is innocent from the beginning, but the more bullshit I hear from the mainstream media the less I'm inclined to believe it.

Do you regularly agree with the mainstream media?

Do you?

Zimmerman did not stalk Trayvon, get over your shit. Trayvon was a thieving drug user - THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEBODY WHO ENJOYS DRUGS - there is nothing wrong with drug use in and of itself, but Trayvon was most likely getting skittles and iced tea to get high, I knew that from the beginning. He was a thug who liked to steal jewelry and he dressed like a thug in a gated neighborhood that had many recent burglaries by individuals matching his description. Zimmerman had every right to make sure this kid wasn't about to break into one of his neighbor's houses. Then Trayvon came up to him and attacked him. That's likely what happened, and there is no evidence that didn't happen.

Everything in your paragraph is MSM.

And talk about profiling......

All that Trayvon had in his system was traces of THC- marijuana- which can stay in the system for weeks. And, MJ, by itself, does not make one prone to violence.

And, again your statement is profiling: Martin deserved his fate because he might be getting stuff to get high (it was Watermelon drink, BTW- not tea); he MIGHT have stolen something sometime, PLUS- OH HORROR- he was dressed like a Thug! Bad, bad hoodie wearer!

It has been the profiling of Martin that made me interested in this case in the first place. I do not think Martin was a saint, but I find it sad and quite repulsive that some never stop with the nastiness toward the kid, while refusing to acknowledge anything about Zimmerman's also very questionable past.

And, when somebody does- they are called names and accused of being trolls, spies, COINTEL, etc. So much for liberty, eh?

It would be a pleasant change to be able to have a real conversation about this subject and be able to bring all sides of the speculation to the table, in order to make sense of this whole mess.

But, alas, it seems that this will never be.

 

[amy31416]

He was wearing shorts on that day and walking in an American street with street lights. In that light, it is enough to see what race Trayvon was and even if it was a poorly lit street, the moonlight and his truck headlights is enough light to tell. I have profiled other black people(not solely on their race) and I am a black person, so this denial that one cannot profile x because they have x friends is bunk and he should have known that.

Unfortunately, I saw a picture of the crime scene with the corpse, and he was wearing full-length khaki pants.

 

[James Madison]

Everything in your paragraph is MSM.

And talk about profiling......

All that Trayvon had in his system was traces of THC- marijuana- which can stay in the system for weeks. And, MJ, by itself, does not make one prone to violence.

And, again your statement is profiling: Martin deserved his fate because he might be getting stuff to get high (it was Watermelon drink, BTW- not tea); he MIGHT have stolen something sometime, PLUS- OH HORROR- he was dressed like a Thug! Bad, bad hoodie wearer!

It has been the profiling of Martin that made me interested in this case in the first place. I do not think Martin was a saint, but I find it sad and quite repulsive that some never stop with the nastiness toward the kid, while refusing to acknowledge anything about Zimmerman's also very questionable past.

And, when somebody does- they are called names and accused of being trolls, spies, COINTEL, etc. So much for liberty, eh?

It would be a pleasant change to be able to have a real conversation about this subject and be able to bring all sides of the speculation to the table, in order to make sense of this whole mess.

But, alas, it seems that this will never be.

Martin felt he was 'disrespected' and decided he was going to teach Zimmerman a lesson. Since most people in this country are pussies, thugs do not have to fear being shot when they jump a victim. Z happened to be carrying, and Martin got what any thug would have received 100 years ago. I don't give a damn about your morality or anyones morality.

 

[James Madison]

He was wearing shorts on that day and walking in an American street with street lights. In that light, it is enough to see what race Trayvon was and even if it was a poorly lit street, the moonlight and his truck headlights is enough light to tell. I have profiled other black people(not solely on their race) and I am a black person, so this denial that one cannot profile x because they have x friends is bunk and he should have known that.

He was wearing long pants and a hoodie. Goddammit do people even pay attention?

 

[Ender]

Martin felt he was 'disrespected' and decided he was going to teach Zimmerman a lesson. Since most people in this country are pussies, thugs do not have to fear being shot when they jump a victim. Z happened to be carrying, and Martin got what any thug would have received 100 years ago. I don't give a damn about your morality or anyones morality.

If you say so.

 

[tmg19103]

Let's get some facts from the trial.

The dispatcher asked twice what direction Martin was going in. How does Zimmerman know if he does not follow from a distance to keep an eye on him? Z then says TM is running away. Dispatcher asks if Z is following him and Z says yes. Dispatcher says Z does not have to do that. Z says "OK".

4 minutes elapse when TM was last spotted running from Z 50 yards from his home where TM could have easily gone for safety and called the cops if he was scared.

TM was last reported running from Z. So for 4 minutes 5'7 204 lb Z "stalked" 5'11 160 lb football wide receiver TM who was running away and caught up to him?

Right. We don't really know what happened those 4 minutes. What is known at the end of the 4 minutes, TM was on top of Z bashing his head into concrete, Z says TM went for the gun in his waistband so he defended his life.

45 seconds of terrified screams for help while being beaten in a "ground and pound" position were shown to be Z.

People can believe what they want, but based on these facts there is no way to convict beyond a reasonable doubt.

The prosecution case was so weak it never should have been brought to trial but for political pressure.

 

[RickyJ]

It has been the profiling of Martin that made me interested in this case in the first place.

I have no problem with profiling. Profiling is done all the time by police departments to catch criminals. Your self-righteous attitude in expressing your opinions on this case is really annoying.